DENIGRATION OF HINDU GODS IS THE REAL REASON FOR ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS IN MANGALORE
The Following are the list of abuses from one such book – Satya Darshini – distributed by the missionaries of New Life. This book is in Kannada and the translation of the abusive passage is as follows.
· Urvashi – the daughter of Narayana– is a prostitute. Vashitha is the son of this prostitute. He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48)
· When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a need for us to liberate his misled followers. (page 50)
· It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita. Since Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were themselves the victims of lust, it is a sin to consider them as Gods. (page 39)
· When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by lust and anger, how can they liberate others. Their projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39).
· When Vishnu asked Brahma to commit a sin, he immediately did so. How can such a “evil brahma” be a Creator of this Universe? How is it possible for both the sinner and the entity which provoked the sin to be gods? (page 39)
· God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are worshipping False Gods that believe in the pleasures of illicit ‘Vyabichari’ relationships. (Page 39).
2. All the 16 incidents that took place were not attack on Churches. In fact, unauthorized prayer halls were attacked where the blasphemous pamphlets were distributed and aggressive proselytisation was taking place. These 16 incidents were not localized but took place across three districts of Mangalore, Udupi and Chikmagalur.
3. The only place where attacks took place apart from New Life Prayer Halls was at a small prayer hall in the premises of Milagres Church in Mangalore, where some miscreants had damaged a Jesus idol. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the attack at this place. Following this incident, a Christian mob gathered and the situation went out of control as the mob started pelting stones and disrupting traffic. The police was forced to intervene and this resulted in unsavoury violence.
4. Since the past two days, it is not Hindu-Christian clashes that are taking place. In fact, it is more appropriate to call it”Christian-Police” clashes since the Christians holed up in Churches have engaged themselves in pelting of stones and disruption of traffic. The Police were forced to enter the Church to clear the mob and they found arms inside the Church.
5. Incidents of Stabbing were reported in around four or five places across Mangalore district. In fact, an activist belonging to Shri Ram Sena was stabbed which led to a bandh call by Shri Ram Sena – a Hindu outfit that is not connected to Sangh Parivar.
6. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the desecration of Jesus idol at the prayer hall adjacent to the Milagres Church in Mangalore. They have also clarified that they are not against the Catholic faith and the Churches. However, they have clarified that the public outcry would continue as long as illicit conversion activities and blasphemy of Hindu gods take place.
7. Even the Kandhmahal murder — which involved the killing of Hindu monk Swami Lakshmananda by missionaries – seems to have caste a shadow on this incident since the general public seems to have seen through Christian aggression.
8. It may be recalled that there was a public outcry against illegal prayer halls in Davanagere district last week. In that case, the administration had closed the unauthorized prayer halls that were mushrooming in the region.
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September 21st, 2008 at 12:50 pm
@ above,
The attack on Christians was just a red herring for Shivaraj Patil.
It was just to divert attention from UPA’s inability to deal with terror courtesy Delhi blasts.
Not even a single person was killed in Mangalore and the media has internationalised it as a case of Bajrangi terror on Christians.
It is clear that Christians are calling the shots and are using an isolated incident to draw international attention.
Tell me, did even a single Christian die in the attack? Why internatioanlise it just because Yediyurappa wanted to investigate Church fundings.
Also read my latest post on reconcilation.
September 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Hear hear ——now the xtians show their true colors the goddamn half breeds or quarter breeds or whatever kind of mongrels they are.
Attaboy Sea lion you said it. exposed these vermin. The English press is commie run or xtian run and hence they say nothing when lakhs of Hindus are forced out of kashmir but just a few (false) reports of Hindu activism and they shit in their pants.
It is high time orissa, Gujarat and Jammu are repeated all over India.
September 21st, 2008 at 7:08 pm
why u only talk about mangalore ???? i knw no body died in mangalore. what about orissa?? if bajrangis can kill in orisaa they can kill anywhere.
dont ask me to read ur posts because i knw how much truth u write in them.
MR SEALION i think u changed ur slogan !!!! to jai BAJRANGDAL. oh!!! beta sab gaali derahe hai kya??? koi baat nahi aise hi naam change karte raho. why i have to fight for hindus forced out of kashmir??? when u were claming all christians have to be thrown out of india,then muslims are doing right,they are throwing hindus out. u were saying so much that we hindus will fight for our rights?????? go and fight man!!! buddy snake will not bite untill u tease it.muslims are not terrorists,u have made them like that.dont blame christians later if one of us also become terrorist because of ur bajrangis activity. afterall ur own people will die.
and MR. DEEPAK KAMATH
we are not waiting for delhi help.we all know all these people just want vote bank.we just pray for all human beings,for all those who cant live in peace.because jesus himself will protect us. see whats happening in orissa. why there is flood ,why eveything is destroyed???? ask urself.our jesus will never approve of violence, so we dont hurt anyone. but for all ur info jesus had said- “if someone hits u on one cheek, show him the other,”but u people dont knw he has not said anything if someone hits other cheek too. that decision is left to us.
yes ofcourse , its filmy dialouge.but its true.
when bajrngis attack our churches u say that , they have attacked prayer halls only.when we attack dont come for protest. because when u put ur posts , u wanted to tell us that we shouldnt have protested.
what happend did u read vedas???? if u have not ,the read it. thousands of years before jesus it was written, like this- someone will come who will hang on the cross, who will have five wounds, he will be killed like a lamb, he will come back, only that person can save people from their sins”
i did not wanted to write these vedas here, but iam impressed by MR.SEALION who reads bible so much , only for accusing others. if i want to accuse ur gods u people will not have any answer man. just imagine hw many idols u have. and their shapes???? so dont tempt us. because when i write its u who is going to get hurt.
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:24 am
@ Above,
Nobody died in Mangalore and yet the Christian media created an international terror.
In Orissa, the problem started after Christian missionaries murdered a 80-year old revered monk Swami Lakshmanandna. Get your facts right. you seem to be brainwashed by the pseudosecular media.
September 22nd, 2008 at 1:28 am
Dear Mr, Kamat.
Please do writing, people like you can save Hinduisum only…our new generation is forgetting our values and cultures
Keep it Up..
DT
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 am
Its true we are losing our identity in life.But still our party’s concentrate on the vote banks than people welfare.Only the opposition party know to critise to get into rule as they wont worry about our country growth.Very sad very difficult to live in a constitution like this.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:01 am
For ppl who are spreading hatered
For they do not sleep unless they have done evil; and their sleep is taken away unless they make someone fall. For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence. Proverbs 4:16-17 NKJV
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the LORD searches every heart and understands every motive behind the thoughts. If you seek him, he will be found by you; but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever. 1 Chronicles 28:9
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You guys dont know what you are speaking and against whom you are talking.
But remember everytime you are saying these things, Christ is speaking and praying on your behalf
“Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing” Luke 23:34
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But remember there will be a time when this will happen
Philippians 2
Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
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MOST OF IT ALL….
REMEMBER THAT EVEN THE ROMANS WHO WERE CONSIDERED THE MOST POWERFUL TRIED TO STOP CHRISTIANITY. TODAY THEY HAVE VANISHED, THEIR POWER HAS ALL GONE!!!
ORISSA IS UNDER THE WORST FLOOD IN THE LAST DECADE. KARNATAKA TOPS THE LIST OF THE MAXIMUM CASES OF CHIKUNGUNIYA.
God is for us and he loves us all. He loves you too and he is willing to take your yoke(burden) away. You just need to let him do so.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:52 am
Converstion is very practice & It is become shaapa for India from last 2k years, 1st was charvaka, 2nd was buddha this buddha had three shishyas three shiyas gone for convertion into three sides, one gone to south India, another gone to west india and outside And another one gone to eastern countries and they durted India by simply condomnding Hindus they converted hindus for 1000years that after muslim Kings Aquired the India and they converted without curtacy & with rubbishly & raping the unpower hindu womens for an 800 years after that western whitish had come and still coming and making the convertion is on and on and on, that one fellow bollywood director given one statement Convertion is a gift for India Because he is slave of Dawood so he is telling saala, Please save India And Save sanaatan dharma, DHARMA MEEVA JAYATHE, JAI HINDU.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:55 am
When the whole world is seeing videos and photos of huge Churches being vandalized, How can you guys bluntly accept such a lie that only unauthorized prayer halls were attacked? If they were unauthorized, that would have become a HOT topic now and GOVT would have seized those places by now.
Anyways now that they have accepted that they have attacked, arent they taking law into their hands instead of reporting it to the police??
If there are any forcible conversions, the people who were forced should have lodged any complaints. The IPS police has admitted that there are no such complaints(NDTV Special Report on 21Sep 9:30PM). Which automatically infers that the conversions are not forced.
So why are these ppl spreading violence??
Coming to the books that were published, the bajrang dal leader himself told that the publisher of the book was unknown (NDTV Special Report on 21Sep 9:30PM). He only said that they obtained it from within the Church.
Say tomorrow if a bible is found in a Hindu temple does it mean that hindus have published it?? There are lots of books that object various religions that are found at many book shops.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:23 am
@ Ajit,
All that you spoke is just hogwash. Read http://www.christianaggression.com and enlighten yourself.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:01 am
Now I am going to point out the dogmas of Ajit who says:
Dogma: REMEMBER THAT EVEN THE ROMANS WHO WERE CONSIDERED THE MOST POWERFUL TRIED TO STOP CHRISTIANITY. TODAY THEY HAVE VANISHED, THEIR POWER HAS ALL GONE!!!
Reality: Yes, Christians destroyed Roman civilisation. But they could not destroy Hindu civilisation.
Dogma: ORISSA IS UNDER THE WORST FLOOD IN THE LAST DECADE. KARNATAKA TOPS THE LIST OF THE MAXIMUM CASES OF CHIKUNGUNIYA.
Reality: That itself shows that your concept of Christian God is very cheap. He is not forgiving and is very revengeful.
Dogma: God is for us and he loves us all. He loves you too and he is willing to take your yoke(burden) away. You just need to let him do so.
Reality: So God has franchised forgiveness only to Christians. Read history to know Christian terror.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:07 am
How can this be tolerated by the Hindus. The Government (State and Centre) should take stern action against those who dare this dastardly act to denigrate Hindu Gods. Such things can happen only in a country like India. The congress government should be ashamed of this and remove Sonia from the party leadership, immediately.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:07 am
Reply to Ajit and his dogmas.
Dogma: When the whole world is seeing videos and photos of huge Churches being vandalized, How can you guys bluntly accept such a lie that only unauthorized prayer halls were attacked? If they were unauthorized, that would have become a HOT topic now and GOVT would have seized those places by now.
Reality: I maintain that only unauthorised prayer halls were damaged. The rest of it was just ordinary ransack which did not deserve international coverage. The very fact that it was internationalised proves that Christian lobby wields disproportionate power to cry victimhoood. Thousands of Hindu Temples are demolished and there is no international uproar.
Dogma: Anyways now that they have accepted that they have attacked, arent they taking law into their hands instead of reporting it to the police?
Reality: Don’t be so naive. Whatdo you when your near and dear are raped? Do you try to save them first hand or do you report to the police?
Dogma: If there are any forcible conversions, the people who were forced should have lodged any complaints. The IPS police has admitted that there are no such complaints(NDTV Special Report on 21Sep 9:30PM). Which automatically infers that the conversions are not forced.
Reality: So naive of you. Do you think everything is solved at the police station. Social tensions deserve a social response. And with the powerful Christian lobby (experts in greasing palms), the poor would not dare to do so.
Dogma: So why are these ppl spreading violence??
Reality: Because the Christians are denigrating Hindu Gods.
Dogma: Coming to the books that were published, the bajrang dal leader himself told that the publisher of the book was unknown (NDTV Special Report on 21Sep 9:30PM). He only said that they obtained it from within the Church.
Reality: THat shows that the authors are cowards.
Dogma: Say tomorrow if a bible is found in a Hindu temple does it mean that hindus have published it??
Reality: We don’t keep Bible in Temples.
Dogma:There are lots of books that object various religions that are found at many book shops.
Reality: But why did New Life Missionaries distribute it to Hindus. To convert, of course.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:13 am
Dear Deepak Kamath,
I have asked you to give a befittng answer for the points published in Satya Darshana. Why are you dragging your feet? Don’t delay much and wait for others. You are equally competent to give answers which will definitely be an eye opener for the people who have already crossed the fence
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:36 am
@ Indian Rock,
I can very well give the answer. But every Hindu knows it.
For further details, you may read my previous posts.
Well, in case you want it, I can give it anytime.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:48 am
Dear Deepak,
Don’t take the things for granted. If people like you backtrack in making strong points known then what is the need of this blog?
I request you once again to give answers , point by point, for the queries made in Sataya Darshini with good proof. I will circulate the same amongst my brothers who have confused view about Hinduism.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:50 am
Here is an interesting read for the naive ones – Churches and Fundamentalism:http://indiaview.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/churches-fundamentalism/
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:16 am
@ India Rocks,
I have already given the reply.
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:42 am
http://greathindu.com/2008/09/replies-to-abuses-in-satyadarshini/
See the reply here.
September 22nd, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Mr. Deepak,
This is really a great answers to all those anti Hindu people. Mr. Ajit you are saying about churches being vandalized. What about Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati’s murder? World should not see this is it? Atleast you didn’t see is it?don’t you feel anything about his murder. Are you more concerned about buildings than a person’s life? Not only you Mr. Ajit, whole world, all people should think about it. A person should respect and follow his culture along with that he should respect other religion also. That is called a real good person,
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:43 pm
This is something i wasnt aware about till now. Its shocking and provoking at the same time. I wont say its the religion that matters its the way some people think they can break our country apart by starting religious riots again. I guess all Indians should’ve learnt their lesson since the partition as how religious riots ruined the country’s image forever.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:44 am
@SR
All you guys are innocent and ignorent of whats happening in Orissa. A letter was sent by the maoists clearly claiming that they have killed the Swami for his role in the communal violence in Orissa. Please read the news.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:47 am
@Deepak
Some of my comments that I have previouly posted yesterday are not being displayed… Deepak, face the truth. Pls let people read all my comments..
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:53 am
@ Ajit,
I have never deleted any comment. You may post again if you want.
I don’t believe in censoreship.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:55 am
@ Ajit,
Don’t expect us to be so naive as to believe in every letter that is circulated around. We have proof of Christian complicity in Swamiji’s murder.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 am
ALso the site that you have refereed
http://www.christianaggression.com/
is all showing one sided story(Very obvious)
Look Deepak, We Christians dont want to fight. We have no enimity with you guys.
After all we believe there is only one God(God in Trinity) just as you and I have only one father and only one mother.
We are responsible for every soul who does not know about Christ. God will ask an account of us and we as christians are responsible for it.
Its the responsibility of every christian to share the mission of Christ with everyone. Its left to the individual to accept or reject.
We Christians are judged more stringently by God, its there in the Bible. Its more tough for us since we read the laws of the Bible and hence will be accordingly judged.
I think I dint use any harsh words, I am extremely sorry if I hurt any of you guys, though I dint mean to. If I did, God will take a rightful action on me for that.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:13 am
@Deepak
Dude, its again a myth that Swami was Killed by Christians.
Swami openly said in an interview to NDTV that he is against Christians and he will do anything to chase them away.
He has had a hand in spreading communal violence which was a reason that Maoists killed them.
This is the instruction given to us by Jesus in Matthew:5
43″You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[h] and hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you: Love your enemies[i] and pray for those who persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:57 am
So based on the above comment you can understand that in our minds such thoughts of killing cannot Arise for true Christians.
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:04 am
The contents of the phamphlet are certianly reprehensible and deserve condemnation. The authors should be identified and dealt with severely.
I think it should not have been difficult to have identified and taken action against them if the groups that took the law into thier hands had reported the matter to the authorities. I think this also should be analysed to understand motives behind the attacks. What has now happened is the agenda of the minority elements has by default become the agenda of the majority.
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:27 am
I am surprised that we are still tolerating this kind of disgrace. it is time for another revolution to wipe out these people who are like a disease from our land.
Thank you Deepak for providing the facts.
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:41 am
@ Ajit,
I know that Church stands by the classic Jesus line that you should offer the other cheek when slapped.
However, the irony of history is that the followers of non-violent Christ were very much attacking.
If you want to know what Christian terror is, visit the North East, there are militants among the Christians too. Read the NLFT.
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:53 am
“it is inded amazing that India can have Hindus who think that they win arguments by denying THE BASIC FREEDOM OF WORSHIP TO ANYONE IN THIS CASE CHRISTIANS
Is this democracy in india?
my oh my….”
where have you been living all these years?? i don’t think you know that maximum conversions of religions are not voluntary..people are browbeaten into converting..would you call this democracy?? missionaries who landed with colonists killed people..they sought to destroy hinduism…if hindus had denied THE BASIC FREEDOM OF WORSHIP…there would be no christians or muslims in india…use yor brains..open your eyes…if you knew what happened in history..you would not have commented ..people are looking for reasons to kill each other…do not blame it on religion..religion teaches us peace..not violence..
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:07 am
@ Deepak,
Agreed that the ppl who have Christian names are not always Christians. At the same time I wont believe if you say Christians are initiating the attacks, it will only be in retaliation….
If you see Christianity only in those alleged Militants, I can see Hinduism in Bajrang Dal and other groups who are openly claiming like Jihadi’s that they will continue their attacks.
@Concerned
Oh yes my dear friend, you have a right to opt for a Religion hence you are allowed to build Temples in America too… But if we do the same in India, its called unauthorizd prayer halls and forceful conversion… Isnt it??
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:31 am
@Deepak,
One of my comments is not getting posted, guess bcos its a large one, but I tried breaking it up and it still doesnt show up…
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:36 am
FOR UR ANSWER TO AJIT.
I know that Church stands by the classic Jesus line that you should offer the other cheek when slapped.
However, the irony of history is that the followers of non-violent Christ were very much attacking.
i think u must read bible once , because bible has never said what to do if the person slaps at other also.
buddy it is left to us.
in one of ur comments u said to christians-”do u want us to sit quietly when someone comes and rapes our sisters”- then i ask u a question-
do u want us to keep quiet when u people rape our sisters?????????
dont tell others to get ur facts right. first get ur facts right buddy!!!!!!! that so called swami was not killed by christians, u knw the fact but still ignore it. and u call eveything a media hype. for ur info we christians are only 2.1% of population, and if am not wrong 90% are hindus. then why media will support only 2.1% christians???? ask this question to urself u will get answer.
there were so many incidents where bajrangdal in mangalore warned all the press people if they show violence against christians??????if u are so intrested in knowing the truth go and find out man??????
to whom u are addressing christian terror???????
all those militants have base from u hindus!!!! if u had not broken babri masjid, no one would have become terrorist. first try to clean ur own plate then look at the others.
buddy – see the orissa flood how many people are homeless!!!!!its ur sins.
and one of ur comments u said to ajit-
Reality:” That itself shows that your concept of Christian God is very cheap. He is not forgiving and is very revengeful.”
he is merciful and he has said in the bible-” i will protect my people by sending floods, lightening, thunder,etc and those floods are not for revenge that is for saving his own people.
ur next comment said- we dont keep bible in temple!!!!!
buddy ur temples are not fit for bible to be kept there. bible is a holy book. hw can u keep bible infront of ur naked idols???? buddy worship god not idols,statues, stars, animals, reptiles,sun , moon, u give honour to all gods creation,but not god!!!!! hw foolish u people are.
i still feel sorry for all those write comments here. because one person claim to be a reporter write all false stories and rest all believe in it. i dont say that my comments are right. those who want they can find out the truth.
did u read vedas????
try to think – why we and muslims both wait for jesus to come???????? we both follow deffrent religion but wait for one- why??????
buddy did we convert anyone by swords, sticks etc????? if u had seen the news yesturday bajrangdal are converting people with swords and sticks in orissa.
u seems to be fighting for others ,then when ur own people do that u dont have any objection?????
dont call urself a hindu!!! because i knw there are some good hindus.
i want to tell one more thing-
agreed that “satya darshini” booklet should not have published. but did any of u tried to find out?? whatever written in that book is truth. writer was hindu before then he came to christanity. he himself wrote that book.can any of u prove that its wrong??????
what to do the truth always hurts!!!!!
by writting against christians will not do us any harm.we are used to it. because it is written in bible that- “when u talk about me nobody will like it??”
AJIT- HAVE U READ WHAT JESUS SAID-”DO NOT GIVE WHAT IS HOLY TO DOGS,
DO NOT THROW PEARLS AT PIGS”"?(mt 7:6)
its true man- we should not throw pearls at these pigs.lords words are holy.these people will trample those words like a pig.
all u hindu brothers and sisters,even though we have diffrences we love u.thats why jesus said – love ur enimies. we always try to do that.
its difficult for u to understand hw is it possible to love enimies.read bible to understand.thats the diffrence between all other religions and christians.we have been attacked for these reasons not for conversions.
i feel blessed – because all the people in this site have given me an opportuniy to write about christ. obviously no body can write about god without his permission and love.
i ask all of u to write more so that i can give my jesus’ love more and more.
i must thank DEEPAK KAMAT for creating such a wonderful site.
cheers
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:44 am
@Deepak
Surely dude you’ll know some day what you are thinking is wrong…
Here are my replys to all your answers
Myth: Yes, Christians destroyed Roman civilisation. But they could not destroy Hindu civilisation.
Truth:Dear friends, Christians did not destroy the Romans, its the Romans who destroyed themselves. Heard of the “Pride comes before a fall” proverb?? However it was a complicated process.. Google it and find out… And christians have never destroyed the culture and tradition, but infact follow many traditions followed by Indians, for example the Mangal Sutra used during marriage. Where were you when beggers, dalits, widows, orphans pleaded for a place in the society?? And when we help them you say its forceful??? Wow…
Myth: That itself shows that your concept of Christian God is very cheap. He is not forgiving and is very revengeful.
Truth: Dude, you dont understand God. He is Holy and cannot bear sin. He is compassionate and forgiving when a person truly repents.
God does not own a government. He can do all things on his own. God the trinity(Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are one. They have the same thoughts and dont contradict each other. The main purpose of Christ to come and die is clearly mentioned in your Rig Vedas. Read this passage written by ppl who were once Hindus,
http://insearchofpeace.org/3v17issue.htm
http://www.sdaindia.net/jesus_in_hindu_scriptures/jesus-in-hindu-scriptures.html
He becomes very angry when people do not rightfully give the glory to Him since He is the creator of us all. If you go to your father and say he is not your father, what will he do??
http://www.gotquestions.org/jealous-God.html
Myth: So God has franchised forgiveness only to Christians. Read history to know Christian terror.
Truth: Dude, again you have misinterpreted my sentence. God is a Loving God. Forgiveness is not for only Christians. The theif on the cross was not a Christian, but was forgiven immideately when he repented.
39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, “Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!” 40 But the other(theif) answered, and rebuking him said, “Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 “And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!” 43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.” Luke 23:39-43
Paul, was a Roman who was persecuting Christians, but God forgave him and Paul was a changed man.
Jesus tells a story about the prodicle son. This shows the Charecter of God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Prodigal_Son
Myth: I maintain that only unauthorised prayer halls were damaged. The rest of it was just ordinary ransack which did not deserve international coverage. The very fact that it was internationalised proves that Christian lobby wields disproportionate power to cry victimhoood. Thousands of Hindu Temples are demolished and there is no international uproar.
Truth: Well if thats your stand, I’d suggest you go and visit all the famous Temples built in the middle of the Roads… Anyways, If the local GOVT isnt helping much, its natural that we would approach anyone else. Thats why organizations like the UN have been founded.
And when you guys can build temples in America, whats wrong if we build Churches in India… If they are unauthorised, did any Police or GOVT official seize those places??
Myth: Don’t be so naive. Whatdo you when your near and dear are raped? Do you try to save them first hand or do you report to the police?
Truth: Oh my dear friend, if a person becomes Christian you are comparing him/her to a person who is raped huh?? Well then, what were you guys doing when Bajrang Dal ppl raped innocent nuns in Orissa??
http://orissaburning.blogspot.com/2008/08/nun-brutally-gang-raped-in-public.html
Myth: So naive of you. Do you think everything is solved at the police station. Social tensions deserve a social response. And with the powerful Christian lobby (experts in greasing palms), the poor would not dare to do so.
Truth: There you have it, you basically want to be violent isnt it?? And you boast Gandhi was born in this Country. Thats where the difference is.
We have protested peacefully whenever we were attacked. Yes, we did retaliate — to save and defend ourselves when even the police is attacking us.
Myth: Because the Christians are denigrating Hindu Gods.
Truth: This is just a projected reason. You guys were waiting for an opportunity to attack. Anyways, there were many movies, books realesed denigrating Christ. Did we follow a violent method of protest then??
Myth: THat shows that the authors are cowards.
Truth: I’ll say, why should we take responsibility of something we dint do??
What if some guy from Bajrang Dal sneaked in and put a copy of the book in the Church??
For the LORD searches all hearts and understands all the intent of the thoughts. 1 Chronicles 28:9 NKJV
Let me tell you Deepak, if ppl are doing wrong(including Christians) they will be judged accordingly, he said it in the Bible
21″Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Myth: We don’t keep Bible in Temples.
Truth: Dint I start my sentence with a say?? I was just assuming… By the way, I do know some of my Hindu friends who read Bible very much and are still Hindus…!!
Myth: But why did New Life Missionaries distribute it to Hindus. To convert, of course.
Truth: Convert?? Whats this Conversion?? Christ Truly asks us to repent(from our heart) of our sins and ask for forgiveness. He does not ask us to become Christians for name sake. Nobody becomes a christian by name, outside appearance…etc. LORD measures the heart. So if a persons name is Charles or a Peter he not necessarily will goto Heaven. That will be judged by God as per his life on earth.
A true christian is a person who reflects Christ in his life. And I believe most Christian missionaries are doing it by helping the poor, sick and needy. That will be their agenda always.. They dont get anything on the earth by doing so and they dont expect also. Remember, most of them have left their luxurious lives in western countries and came to serve us and we Indians kill them(Graham Stains). They are here to spread the Good news that Christ is risen and He has conquered death. If we believe in Him(no matter who we are/were) and repent of our sins, he gives us life eternal after our physical death.
If this book was distributed to the Hindus, why are only Bajrang Dal activists complainig about it?? Where are the Hindus to whom these books were given?
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:46 am
@above
Dude, I had answered to these comments, but that particular comment is not getting posted… Lets see, may be it might take time…
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:05 am
Thanks deepak for moderating the comment. Pls do shoot any questions/ comments on this, I will definately answer.
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 am
to Mr Deepak Kamat
I am surprised that you can preach & spread hate, lies and violence through this website of yours. In your eyes, people who resort to killing, raping, maiming are Hindus who are doing good. In this case, they are not responsible but you in the first place. Because it is bloody people like you and politicians of the same breed like you who dare to sow hate in the hearts of the illiterate people who then go and indulge in violence.You are a real motherfucker Mr. Kamath, the real satan. Well I curse you in such a way that you will not live another 30 days in this world, for the blood of the innocents will haunt you and torment you till you lose your sanity. Die, bloody motherfucker die
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:43 am
Mr Kamat
Why the hell are you absuing your freedom of expression?
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:52 am
I am sorry to say, guys. You ppl are not representing the True Christ. Please Please Please be careful with your words.
Just because they may use some words, we cant jump in and do the same… Please guys remember this verse that God says us.
14″You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. 15Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.
Please for heavens sake, rephrase your sentences…
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:52 am
Please find the reason below why dalits are fed up of Hindu discrimination and how they are killed and expolited by Hindus.Do you care for these miserable , poor dalits, Mr. Kamat? You are the ones who will take advantage of them.
Four sentenced to death for killing Dalit in Barabanki
23 Sep 2008, 1400 hrs IST,PTI
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BARABANKI: A fast track court has sentenced four people to death and awarded life imprisonment to 11 others in connection with the murder of a Dalit.
Additional District and Sessions Judge (fast track court) Anup Kumar Goyal on Monday pronounced the verdict in the 15-year-old case relating to the murder of Chedu, the Dalit who was killed following an old rivalry.
Those awarded capital punishment are Sagar, Nanku, Harinath and Ashok
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:48 am
@ Scorpion,
So you want to divert attention from Christian attacks to caste issues. That is what pseudosecularists usually do when confronted with harsh facts.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:50 am
@ ALL,
I DON’T BELIEVE IN CENSORESHIP. IN FACT, I HAVE TOLD MY WEB DESIGNERS NOT TO DELETE ANY COMMMENTS — HOWEVER VULGAR AND ANTI-HINDU.
I AM ALL FOR A CHURNING PROCESS. YOU ARE WELCOME TO POST YOUR COMMENTS.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:20 am
Cum on Deepak, we have seen Vulgar Anti-Christian comments also, by SeaLion who started it all…
Anyways, was good to interact with you guys..
I was actually waiting for your comments on my comment
Hmmm I think Scorpion is not diverting, he is showing the root cause of the problem.
For so many years, these Dalits were not considered to be a part of the society. But when they become Christians after obtaining love and care along with some money from Christians, you have a problem…. Why is that??
The Bajrang Dal destroy so much of property, you dont seem to find a problem with that..
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:45 am
The goondagiri by our bhajrang dal has not strengthened our hinduism but it has made it GOONDAISM. By force or gun point you can never win hearts it is by loving deeds. I donot agree that literature caused so much intolerence. Dear Deepak Kamat, you have a beautiful talent to write. Instead of reasoning the reason for the attacks try to use your pen to highlight sufferng people. If you do what SIMI is doing now to avenge babri masjid destruction and innocent murdering of 3000 muslims what is the difference?. We are the pillars of hinduism. Let us spread love not hatred and win our hindus with our hears not swords.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:54 am
http://churumuri.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/sangh-parivar-is-destroying-hindu-civilisation/
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:26 am
All this comments are absolutely irellavant and not required when
to-day we have so many burning issues in front of us like terrorisem then why talk of Mythologh which is much more past.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:22 am
I have seen the headlines on TOI.The attacks on churches becos of “Forced Conversion” .Dear majority Hindu brothers of this country, Do u believe in this statement. How come the minority community can do “”Forced Conversion”"Please answer this.
I agree v shouldnt allow forced conversion,but every citizen of the country has the right change his Reliogion willingly.
BJP Government should take all responsibility of Violance,especially Home Minister of Karnataka, rather than giving statement that there didnt happen any death.What a nonsense statement it was.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 am
How dare you to call pigs who are all writing here? Oh! You are pulling muslims also your side to create more confusions here is it? Ok we worship Idol, I agree, we see god in everything…
How cheap your mentality yar… you can’t respect other religion also? You are saying naked idols…..How dare you to say that bloody…..! Shit man! How cheap your thinking…..we see god in everything sun, moon, animals..so we are fools is it? No use in writing anything regarding for you people…Pls stop.
Nobody know what’s really happening either in Mangalore or in Orissa…Simply throwing stones each other’s religion or culture here…
Please Deepak, Stop this discussion here itself. These people will not understand the Hindus concerns… They want to dominate everywhere. We should be strong enough to fight all these. Hindus should not allow these people, when they come with leaflets or preaching about their religion, that’s it.. My dear brothers and sisters, please wake up atl-east NOW. You wake up.. Teach a good lesson to those who come to us to tell about their religion…