DENIGRATION OF HINDU GODS IS THE REAL REASON FOR ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS IN MANGALORE
The Following are the list of abuses from one such book – Satya Darshini – distributed by the missionaries of New Life. This book is in Kannada and the translation of the abusive passage is as follows.
· Urvashi – the daughter of Narayana– is a prostitute. Vashitha is the son of this prostitute. He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48)
· When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a need for us to liberate his misled followers. (page 50)
· It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita. Since Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were themselves the victims of lust, it is a sin to consider them as Gods. (page 39)
· When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by lust and anger, how can they liberate others. Their projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39).
· When Vishnu asked Brahma to commit a sin, he immediately did so. How can such a “evil brahma” be a Creator of this Universe? How is it possible for both the sinner and the entity which provoked the sin to be gods? (page 39)
· God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are worshipping False Gods that believe in the pleasures of illicit ‘Vyabichari’ relationships. (Page 39).
2. All the 16 incidents that took place were not attack on Churches. In fact, unauthorized prayer halls were attacked where the blasphemous pamphlets were distributed and aggressive proselytisation was taking place. These 16 incidents were not localized but took place across three districts of Mangalore, Udupi and Chikmagalur.
3. The only place where attacks took place apart from New Life Prayer Halls was at a small prayer hall in the premises of Milagres Church in Mangalore, where some miscreants had damaged a Jesus idol. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the attack at this place. Following this incident, a Christian mob gathered and the situation went out of control as the mob started pelting stones and disrupting traffic. The police was forced to intervene and this resulted in unsavoury violence.
4. Since the past two days, it is not Hindu-Christian clashes that are taking place. In fact, it is more appropriate to call it”Christian-Police” clashes since the Christians holed up in Churches have engaged themselves in pelting of stones and disruption of traffic. The Police were forced to enter the Church to clear the mob and they found arms inside the Church.
5. Incidents of Stabbing were reported in around four or five places across Mangalore district. In fact, an activist belonging to Shri Ram Sena was stabbed which led to a bandh call by Shri Ram Sena – a Hindu outfit that is not connected to Sangh Parivar.
6. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the desecration of Jesus idol at the prayer hall adjacent to the Milagres Church in Mangalore. They have also clarified that they are not against the Catholic faith and the Churches. However, they have clarified that the public outcry would continue as long as illicit conversion activities and blasphemy of Hindu gods take place.
7. Even the Kandhmahal murder — which involved the killing of Hindu monk Swami Lakshmananda by missionaries – seems to have caste a shadow on this incident since the general public seems to have seen through Christian aggression.
8. It may be recalled that there was a public outcry against illegal prayer halls in Davanagere district last week. In that case, the administration had closed the unauthorized prayer halls that were mushrooming in the region.
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September 27th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
JESUS THE FIRST TERRORIST AND MOTHERFUCKING NOT A SIN IN CHRISTIANITY.
ANOTHER 5 PAISE MOTHERSELLER “AJIT” WHO KEEPS HINDU NAME TO GET THE BENIFIT OF RESERVATION SATAN WORSHIPPING MDC LECTURING ON GOD. THE DEVIL QUOTING FROM SCRIPTURES.THE SPITS BASTRDS BEGETTED BY WHORES LECTURING ON “GOD” HA HA HA . GO DRINK CHRISTUS URINE (SCOTCH) AND SLEEP WITTH YOUR MOTHER BASTRDS. IT IS A HINDU PAID AND HINDU SITE. THESE EVIL, VILE PARASITES ARRIVE UNINVITED EVERYWHERE. GO TO SUZANNE SAGRIKA GHOSH OR PRONOY ROY SITE (MAYBE THESE CHRISTIAN CUNTS WOULD HAVE ONE NIGHT WITH YOU)
September 27th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
OH NAME LESS RAT
>” SEA LION, have u read booklet SATYA DARSHINI??????? its truth man, read it. short and sweet bagwad geeta.
> AS TRUE AS YOUR MOTERFUCKING JESUS BASTARD BEGETTED BY A WHORE. HEY I DON’T HIT MY HEAD BASTARD. I “KILL” “SUARS” BEGETTED BY CHRISTIAN WHORES LIKE YOUR MOTHER. WHERE ARE YOU YOU SON OF A BASTARD. FUCKING YOU MOTHER.
OH SON OF A BITCH AND BOAR TERE JESUS KE KITNAE LUND THE 18 LUND MAA CHODNE KE LIYAE.
PADH TERI BIB-LIE (RADIYON KI MEHFIL)
Yeah, right.
How many foreskins did Jesus have?
18, at last count. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_foreskin
This whole thing is a complete hoax: Jesus didn’t exist at all, it’s just an instance of “truth by repeated assertion”. There is simply no evidence, either via physical relics (cf. the tooth of the Buddha) or via independent historians that such a person existed. It’s only the church that keeps asserting that there was a certain jess who actually existed.
Another really interesting “miracle” is the Two Skeletions of ‘Saint’ Thomas: One, As a Young Man (Found in Mylapore, Chennai), and the Other, As an Old Man (Found in Ortona, Italy)
Just think that through. The word that leaps to mind is “hoax”.
hey dont hit ur head!! it will hurt u only.
beta tension math le, aisa kabi kabi hota he.
>> ABE MAA CHOD CHOS KE BAAP BETE KAA FARAK BHOOL GAYA. APNAE BAAP SE AISE BAAT KARTA HAI. SAHI HAI MADARCHOD WORSHIPPING MAA DAR CHOD. TERI MAA KA BHOSDA, YAHAN AB ARMED HINDU ORGANIZATION BAN RAHE HAIN. TERI MAA KO TERI AANKH KE SAAMNE CHODENGE BAADKHAU
i have one mental hospital here, i will give u free treatment.
because if u keep on writting in the blogs like this u will go mad. hw much u read buddy?????? u read bible, quoran, but why dont u read ur geeta?????? accha, sad o what, krishna has 16000 , i dont have one.dont worry beta, yaha aaja- laloo ki gaay 2 din se tumhe bula rahi he.
its better for ur kind of people to die.u should be killed in public man.
MAA DAR CHOD CIA KE BHADWAE BRITISH KEE AULAAD YEH INDIA YEH TERE GORAE BAAPON JINSE 5 PAISE MEIN TOO MAA CHUDAATA HAI UNKA AMERICA NAHIN. TER 1200 BAAP BHI MIL KAR SHETA NAHIN UPTA SAKTAE. TOO KAUN HOTA HAI BE MAA DAR CHOD HIMMAT HAI TO MAA KI CHOOT SE BAHAR NIKAL BHOSDI KE. TUJHE HI DAUDA DAUDA KE TERE KHAANDAAN KE SAATH MAROONGA. TERI GOREE MAA JISKE BAL RAAND KI AULLAD CHRISTIAN (5 PAISE MOTHERSELLER KOOD RAHE HAIN) WOH BHI BACHAA NAHIN PAYEGI. MAA DAR CHOD RANDEE KI AULAAD ADDRESS TO DE, 1200 BAAP KI AULAAD
i think u r one part of that bajrangis?????? who are uneducated,
ma baap ne kuch sikaya nahin kya???? beta aisa tho ma-baap kaise rahenge????
BHOSDEE KE BAJRANGIS ARE MORE EDUCATED THEN YOUR RANDEE KI AULAAD PAEDOPHILE “FATHERS” AND RANDEE “NUNS” AEE TUM DO KAUDEE KE MAA CHUDAU BHADWE 5 PAISE CONVERT TUM LOGON KE JON KYA HAIN HA HA HA HA . DEKHA NAHIN 99% OF CHRISTIAN WOMEN ARE EITHER “PERSONAL” SECERTORIES OF BOSSES (BECAUSE OF THE EASE WITH WHICH THEY JUMP BEDS, “CHRISTIAN VIRGINS OFF COURSE”) AND BHADWE CHRISTIANS ARE EITHER PIMPS OR CLEAN SHITPOTS IN GULF. YOU MOTHERS JOB IS CLEAR, TERA BAAP KISKE POT KO SAAF KARTA HAI. WAISE BAJRANGIS ARE MORE EDUCATED THEN ALL 5 PAISA CHRISTIAN CIA DOGS LIKE YOU. TOO PATA TO BATA CIA KE BHADWE TUJHE HINDUSTAN KI DO GAJ ZAMEEN BHI NAHIN MILEGI
kutte jaake apne dimaag ka ilaz kar,nahin tho tera email id bej tera mein ilaaz kartha hu. suhar, kichad se paida hua he ,tu kichad me hi rahega. jangli tha , jangli hi rahega. tum kaan kaata he kya gooo kaatha he???????
GOO TERA BAAP AUR TERI MAA KHAATE HAI CHRISTIAN BHADWE, RANDEE KI AULLAD, SUWAR KE BACCHEE. SAALE CHRISTIAN KEEDE, GOO MEIN RENGNE WALE CROSSTIAN, . MERA ID SE PEHLE TERA ID MAIN TALASH KAR LOONGA MAA DAR CHOD, AUR TOO APNE DIN GIN 5 PAISE MEIN MAA BECHNE WALE DO KAUDI KE KUTTE,M BEHENCHOD, MAA DAR CHOD. TERA ADDRESS TO MEIN NIKAAL HI LOONGA AUR SAALE GUTTER KE KEEDAE, WAHIN GUTTER MEIN KAAT KAR POORAE KHANDAAN KE SAATH PHEKOONGA. TERA ID TO AB TRACE MEIN LAG GAYA HAI BEHENCHOD. AAB NARAK MEIN JAANE KE DIN GIN. TUJHE BATATA HOON RANDEE KI AULAAD. TERI MAA KAA
tum jaise logo se saala sab hindus ko gali deni pad rahi he. kutte pehle apne bagwan ke baare me soch baad me dusro ke baare me sochna.
what do u think we cant brake ur temples?????? its so easy man??? tum koi ek temple ka naam de kal shaam thak udake aatha hu.tum hindu logo ko thoda jaga diya tho kaan me muthega kya?????
dum he tho address dena saaale. dum nahin he tho ghar pe bait chudi pehenke.
September 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
>>Then you put an new allegation that Christians are putting Bombs in Temples. Dear friend, you need to check the secret locations and factories of Bajrang Dal and VHP where they manufacture Bombs(Proven fact)..<<
WHERE IS THE PROOF YOU CHRISTIAN MAD NUT. ANOTHER 5 PAISA. HAD THERE BEEN SOME YOU NEFARIOUS CHRISTIANS WOULD HAVE BEEN WIPED OFF FROM INDIA, YOU FLESH AND BLOOD DRINKERS.
PROVEN FACT: JUST BECAUSE A CHRISTIAN MADDOG WHO LIVES LIKE A PARASITE IN INDIA SAY SO. HOPE THEY HAD IT BY THE WAY THE FACT IS THAT NO CIA DOG WAS KILLED IN MANGALORE.
AND THE REAL FACT IS THAT ALL THIS TERRORISM IN INDIA IS BEING PLANNED, HATCHED, AND EXECUTED BY THE BROTHREL KEEPERS OF CHURCH CALLED “FATHERS”. THE TERRORISTS ARE JUST PAID HENCHMEN, OF THE EVIL, VILE AND ABOMINABLE CHRISTIANITY, THE BANE OF THE WORLD
O’ NAMELESS KUTTAE, SUN LAE BOMB SE TOO AASANI SE MAREGA CHRISTIAN. TERI TO KHAAL CHEERONGA. SAALE TUJHE POORE FAUJ DHOOND RAHEE HAI, DO PAISE KI AULAAD
September 27th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
mala kamat :
Date: September 27, 2008 @ 6:38 am
Deepak Kamat,
your allegation that i have been brainwashed by pseudo secularism , then what should i say about you?…
May be our hinduism is lacking good teachers to show path to young people to live a moral life. Coz here is a person who does n’t feel guilty for his hienus crime against mankind and may Esahar save gullible hindus falling prey to these filthy people.
ANOTHER CHRISTIAN CONVERT WITH A FAKE HINDU NAME. YES OFFCOURSE GOOD TEACHERS IN DRUG CRAZED, BLOOD BATHED, SEX CRAZED, KILLERS OF 1. 2 BILLION, WHERE ABORTIONS, CHILD KILLING, BLACK LYNCHING, SLAVERY IS THE “MORAL” IS VERY “MORAL”.
YES CHRISTIANS ARE FILTHY PEOPLE AND WHO OFF ALL INVITED YOU TO THIS SITE TO GIVE YOUR MORALISING ABOUT HINDUS FALLING PREY. WE ARE NOT BRAINLESS, MINDLESS CHRISTIANS WHOSE PLACE IS IN MENTAL ASYLUM OR GAS CHAMBERS
September 27th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Mala Kamat and Nameless christian f** same.
September 27th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
EY HAVE YOU SEEN THE LATEST EMPLOYMENT OF your own sister (THEY ALL BED ATLEAST 100 MEN IN THEIR LIVES) DO BREED LIKE PIGS (EVEN PIGS WOULD BE ANGRY TO BE COMPARED TO your kind..maybe you are from BIHaR/UP where all you do is f**k women). WHO INVITED YOUR BLOODY FUCKING FILTHHY PRESENCE ON THIS SITE ANYWAY, NOOO IT IS IN THE FILTHY anpad HINDU BLOOD TO COME IN UNINVITED, BEG AND STAB IN THE BACK. SATANIC BLOOD YOU SEE. YOU BSTDS WON’T GO EASILY ONLY A FINAL SOLUTION HAS TO BE ARRIVED AT TO FINISH THE COW URINE DRINKING KALI WORSHIPPING BASTARDS. SOBB GIVE YOUR ADDRESS..I WANT TO COME AND F**k YOUR SISTER
BY THE WAY SISTERFUCKING IS NOT A SIN ALSO IN HINDUISM, NO WONDER KRISHNA HAD 16000 WIFES SO YOUR FOUNDATION IS BASED ON AIDS..
:0)))<<<
FINAL SOLUTION, WE WILL ARIVE AT THE FINAL SOLUTION TO THE MOTHERRAPING, SISTER FUCKING CHRISTIANITY YOU MADAD CHOD SON OF A BITCH, SATAN WORSHIPPING CIA DOG A PRODUCT OF A RED LIGHT WHORE AND 1200 FATHERS LIKE YOUR CRIMINAL SATAN JESUS. HA HA HA HA HA A GOD WITH 1 BILLION “BRIDES OF CHRIST”WHORES, IS THE ONE BASED ON AIDS AND SYPHILIS. YOU “GOD” WOULD HAVE DIED OF CANNIBALSITIC AND SYPHILIS ANYWAY.
FUCKING BASTARD IT IS U CHRISTIANS WITH FILTHY BLOODY THAT TOO OF A 5 PAISA MOTHERSELLER WHO COME IN UNINVITED LIKE DIRTY DOGS. YOU DIRTY DOGS CHRISTIAN WHORES SKIPPED BEDS TO INDIA, THE SPITS OF PORTUGESE AND BRITISH “ENTERTAINERS” TERI MAA BHI TOH YEHI KAAM KARTEE HAI.
SAALE KUTTAE KI AULAAD, SUWARIYA KE JAAYE, FINAL SOLUTION TO TUMJ KUTTON KAA NAZDEEK HAI. 5 PAISE MEIN MAA BECHNE WALE, SAALE CHRTIAN HAARAMI KI KUTTI AULAAD, TU SAALE MAHARASTRA MEIN KAHAN REHTA HAIN ZARA BATAA, NAHIN TO WOH BHI TRACK KAR LOONGA. SAALE FINAL SOLUTION TO TUM CHRISTIANS KAA HOGA AB. “PIGS AND PIG BEGTTED CROSSTIANS NOT ALLOWED TO LIVE”. SAALE TERI BEHEN TO PEHLE HI MERA BISTAR GARAM KAR RAHEE HAIN JAB KI TERA BAAP BAHAR BAITHTA HAI. BY THE WAY HOW MANY TIMES WERE YOU RAPED BY THE PAEDOPHILE “FATHERS”. TU MAA DAR CHOD, BHAD KHAU, TUJHAA AAICHI G…, RANDEE MAA KEE BHADWEE AULAAD TU SAAMNE TO AA. TERI AAKH KE SAAMNE TERI BEHEN KI …
OH AND WHICH “JESUS” U SATNIC 5 PAISA CONVERTED DOG WORSHIP.
The archetypal Jewish hero was Joshua (the successor of Moses) otherwise known as Yeshua ben Nun (‘Jesus of the fish’). Since the name Jesus (Yeshua or Yeshu in Hebrew, Ioshu in Greek, source of the English spelling) originally was a title (meaning ‘saviour’, derived from ‘Yahweh Saves’) probably every band in the Jewish resistance had its own hero figure sporting this moniker, among others.
Josephus, the first century Jewish historian mentions no fewer than nineteen different Yeshuas/Jesii, about half of them contemporaries of the supposed Christ! In his Antiquities, of the twenty-eight high priests who held office from the reign of Herod the Great to the fall of the Temple, no fewer than four bore the name Jesus: Jesus ben Phiabi, Jesus ben Sec, Jesus ben Damneus and Jesus ben Gamaliel. Even Saint Paul makes reference to a rival magician, preaching ‘another Jesus’ (2 Corinthians 11,4). The surfeit of early Jesuses includes:
Jesus ben Sirach.
This Jesus was reputedly the author of the Book of Sirach (aka ‘Ecclesiasticus, or the Wisdom of Jesus the Son of Sirach’), part of Old Testament Apocrypha. Ben Sirach, writing in Greek about 180 BC, brought together Jewish ‘wisdom’ and Homeric-style heroes.
Jesus ben Ananias.
Beginning in 62AD, this Jesus had caused disquiet in Jerusalem with a non-stop doom-laden mantra of ‘Woe to the city’. He prophesied rather vaguely:
“A voice from the east, a voice from the west, a voice from the four winds, a voice against Jerusalem and the holy house, a voice against the bridegrooms and the brides, and a voice against the whole people.”
– Josephus, Wars 6.3.
Arrested and flogged by the Romans, he was released as nothing more dangerous than a mad man. He died during the siege of Jerusalem from a rock hurled by a Roman catapult.
ut hold on a minute: in the original text studied by Origen (and in some recent ones) the chosen criminal was Jesus Barabbas – and Bar Abba in Hebrew means ‘Son of the Father’!
Are we to believe that Pilate had a Jesus, Son of God and a Jesus, Son of the Father in his prison at the same time??!!
Perhaps the truth is that a single executed criminal helped flesh out the whole fantastic fable.
Gospel writers, in scrambling details, used the Aramaic Barabbas knowing that few Latin or Greek speakers would know its meaning.
Jesus ben Saphat. In the insurrection of 68AD that wrought havoc in Galilee, this Jesus had led the rebels in Tiberias. When the city was about to fall to Vespasian’s legionaries he fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee.
Jesus ben Gamala.
During 68/69 AD this Jesus was a leader of the ‘peace party’ in the civil war wrecking Judaea. From the walls of Jerusalem he had remonstrated with the besieging Idumeans (led by ‘James and John, sons of Susa’). It did him no good. When the Idumeans breached the walls he was put to death and his body thrown to the dogs and carrion birds.
Jesus ben Thebuth.
A priest who, in the final capitulation of the upper city in 69AD, saved his own skin by surrendering the treasures of the Temple, which included two holy candlesticks, goblets of pure gold, sacred curtains and robes of the high priests. The booty figured prominently in the Triumph held for Vespasian and his son Titus.
esus ben Thebuth.
A priest who, in the final capitulation of the upper city in 69AD, saved his own skin by surrendering the treasures of the Temple, which included two holy candlesticks, goblets of pure gold, sacred curtains and robes of the high priests. The booty figured prominently in the Triumph held for Vespasian and his son Titus.
But was there a crucified Jesus?
Certainly. Jesus ben Stada was a Judean agitator who gave the Romans a headache in the early years of the second century. He met his end in the town of Lydda (twenty five miles from Jerusalem) at the hands of a Roman crucifixion crew. And given the scale that Roman retribution could reach – at the height of the siege of Jerusalem the Romans were crucifying upwards of five hundred captives a day before the city walls – dead heroes called Jesus would (quite literally) have been thick on the ground. Not one merits a full-stop in the great universal history.
September 27th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
>Mr. Deepak Kamat,
You have switched off your conscience and would like to argue the thing that you really dont mean. It is like some lawyers taking up cases and winning them inspite of knowing that they have played with the life of innocent victims.
You can answer hindu lobbyists with your wit but you know for sure where you stand if you pose that question yourself.
I am happy that there are sensible people out here who dont buy your twisted campaign.<
LOL ANOTHER 5 PAISA EVIL CONVERT, TALKING ABOUT “CONSCINCE”. I THINK ANOTHER TEESTA IN MAKING. WHERE IS THEIR CONSCIENCE ABOUT THE 3 MILLION IRAQIS AND AFGHANIS MURDERED FROM AIR BY THE “COWARDLY” AND IMPOTENT CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS FROM AIR. I THINK IT GOES TO SLEEP WITH THE ILL BEGOTTEN, CORRUPT $$ THESE GOOD FOR NOTHING 5 PAISA CONVERTS AND CHRISTIAN VERMIN GET TO BREAK INDIA. AJIT, RYAN, THE NAMELESS GHAATI 5 PAISA CONVERTED SUAR KI AULAAD AND NOW MS MALA KAMAT (FAKE NAME OFFCOURSE)
DEEPAK CAN WE GET IT STARIGHT TO THESE CROOKS CIA DOGS THAT “THIS IS HINDUTVA SITE” AND DIRTY DOGS CAN EAT SHIT ON IBN, NDTV OR VATI-CUNTIST SITES
September 27th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
ABE CHRISTIAN KUTTAE KI AULAAD, DO KAUDI KE GHUSPATHIA, PORTUGESE KI BASTARD AULAAD, JEEKAR KAYA KAREGA GUTTER SHIT KE KEEDAE. APNA ADDRESS DE TERI MAA KI …..SAALE VATI-CUNTIST KUTTAE, KYA MAA CHOD RAHA HAI
September 27th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
@SeaLion
You are brainwashed by Satan. That is shown in the language you use.
Coming to me being a Christian, SeaLion, you yourself are hiding your name which shows you are ashamed of it. I am a christian and I know it and my God knows it. My records right from my child hood show that I am a Christian…. I dont have any reservation certificate… I was among the toppers in my college, so please stop guessing…
You people need America and UK..etc for higher studies, you also build temples etc at America but when it comes to India, you all claim its your land, you people attack every one who are not Hindu’s…..
What do you know about Jesus???… Dont you know how many people are being healed today by Jesus… Go see Benny Hinn’s website… Dont you know how many people are finding Peace in Jesus… See the testimonies of people… Do you know how much peace you get when Jesus speaks with you?? Yes, Jesus speaks and thats a truth… He speaks when we pray with repentance. He takes out our troubles and bears our problemss…. What do you know about Him?? He died on the cross for you and me so that we may not be judged for our sins though we should be rightfully judged… He does not look at the persons past he forgives everyone… Check the theief on the cross who was forgiven and assured a place in heaven.,
In your heart either God or Satan can reside and your language very much shows whats/whos in there…
September 27th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
@ Sealion
I worship the one and only Jesus of Nazereth who came for you and me and Died for our Sins…
There are enough proofs that He came, was crucified, he was burried and was resurrected… If you need them I will illustrate… Or you can google search Proof for ressurrection..
Christianity is all based on facts and supported by History. All the ones that you have quoted are from gnostic gospels dated 200 years after Jesus’s resurrection. The bible is taken from books and letters dated within 10 to 20 years after Jesus’ resurrection… So please get your facts right. Gnostic were written by people who never liked Christ… And these books are forged and have no historical basis….
The books of the Bible are obtained from differnent places and written by different people… Just imagine, there was no communication in those days and how can books from different places have a single topic or tell about the same God… its impossible by the knowledge of Man to do this without quick communication methods..
September 28th, 2008 at 4:57 am
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Also included the link to this page.
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September 28th, 2008 at 6:23 am
the Answer of thi book is >>>
jesus was not able to save himself then how come he can save others…
September 28th, 2008 at 6:57 am
I request all of you to read “awake, araise” by Vivekananda. All of us will get the right answer and lets us know our responsibility. Otherwise this keep on digging about the past of each other is a mere waste of time. All of you including Deepak has lost the focus. All are engaged in spitting with face towards the sky. Think about present,what is to be done.
September 28th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
@ SEALION
afterall u r back???? is it MR.deepak kamat using name SEALION??????? when people dont know hw to answer the truth, then they use such language out of frustration.
do u think ur abusing words can change the truth into a lie??? when we love christ that doesnt affect us!!! buddy if i start to abuse u , u will not get those words in ur oxford dictionary!!!! if i also do that , then what is the diffrence between u and me. u urself only clearly showing the diffrence between a christian and a satan. i dont call u a hindu.because there must be lots of hindu parents who teach good things to their children, it seems that ur parents have not taught u anything!!!!! this is what u teach ur children then hw can u save ur hinduism man?????
MR. SEA LION
UR COMMENTS:
DEEPAK CAN WE GET IT STARIGHT TO THESE CROOKS CIA DOGS THAT “THIS IS HINDUTVA SITE” AND DIRTY DOGS CAN EAT SHIT ON IBN, NDTV OR VATI-CUNTIST SITES.
why cant u directly say that, i dont have any answer for the truth of lord jesus christ????
MUNNA!!! naraaz math ho yaar, aisa kabi kabi hota hai!!! jindagi me bahut baate pehli baar hi patha chalthi he. jyada gussa math ho , tumhara gussa tumhe hi takleef pahunchayega, baaki sab yeh blogs me lik rahe hai woh sab apne apne ghar pe baite hai.
MAMOO!! i think u need “JADOO KI JAPKI” dont worry we all pray for u one day u will be blessed by jesus to preach lords words.
afterall jesus came for sinners,
jesus never hates anybody , only thing he hates is the sin in you. he loves u, u will experience that love very soon.
jesus is standing at the door of ur heart ,and knocking its because of ur stubbornness u can not hear him.
u and me will die oneday ,but only one person lives is jesus christ.
buddy our life on this earth is just a drop of water, but life after death is ocean,then why cant we share this drop of water with everybody ,so that we can have oceanful of peace. thats what we are trying to tell all those who are against christ.
sirach 15:16-19
“lord has kept fire and water before you, reachout and take whichever u want. u have a choice between life and death: you will get whichever u want.lords wisdom and power is so great that he sees everything, he is aware of everything a person does, he takes care of those who fear him.”
September 28th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
@Deepak kamat
ur comments:
“i have read Bible completely. I have also read Koran and all the Hindu scriptures apart from Buddhist and Jain texts. I hope you got my point. Reserve your advice to the unlearned.”
really???? just an explanation for ur comments:
- one day raju asked his teacher,to teach him ramayan, teacher gave raju a geeta and asked him to read it.raju was very exited,he read geeta from begining to end.then he went to the teacher to ask a question?? do u knw what he asked the teacher??? he asked – teacher-teacher yeh sita kaun hai????
got some answer????
honey, as i told u before ,iam merchant navy officer, sometimes to teach my juniors i have to study a lot from diffrent books.when i read books u know hw i prepare a plan? best plan is to how to catch my juniors, hw to catch their mistakes.
u say , u have read bible which is not at all possible. as we are telling u can lie to us but hw can u lie to god????
if u have read some chapters some bible then dont read with hatread, read with love.learn to love urself first then only u can love christ.
there are so many lectureres in colleges who read plenty books to teach their students.but those books does not help them but others.so read bible to help others then only god will reveal his love for u.
u have read bible ,quoran,vedas etc but from all these u got only hatread??? hw is it possible man??
its okey,yaar blogs me kuch bhi liken ,paisa thodi lagtha he????
September 28th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Mr Deepak,
You have lost if all.
i have said what i believe. Hinduism doen’t need the barbaric goondas who are actually destroying it. Your misery is understandable. first u accused me that i am pseudo secularist, and now convert of christanity and and if i still continue u may blame me isi agent right?.
I think you need to vent out this frustration but please spare innocent people. As far as sealeon is considered it shows who are his parents and their upbringing.If he uses his bad mouth and dirty words by de meaning other religions our hinduism shines then no psychologists in mental wards could be of any help.
deepak, those who stand for truth are real hindus and not your so called goondas.
September 28th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Dear Deepak,
i have understood your level of understanding. I said we dont have good teachers to save hinduism and your reply is concept of teachers is christian. wow.
Dont we have learned people in our scriptures? The other day in NDTV BJP spokesman called human right ativist Teesta Setalvad “terrorism supporter”.
Shame on you Deepak, tommorrow if your own child opposes your hypocrisy donot brand him isi agent.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:42 am
The Mala Kamath dogma
Dogma: Mr Deepak, You have lost if all. i have said what i believe. Hinduism doen’t need the barbaric goondas who are actually destroying it.
Reality: Violence is not a one-way street. Christians started it. Bajrang Dal retalitated.
Dogma: Your misery is understandable. first u accused me that i am pseudo secularist, and now convert of christanity and and if i still continue u may blame me isi agent right?.
Reality: You are putting words in my mouth. I did not say that you are pseudosecularist. I said you are brainwashed by pseudosecularism. It was Sea Liion who charged you with Christian conversion. As for the ISI agent accusation, I don’t think you have enough intelligence and courage to be one.
Dogma: I think you need to vent out this frustration but please spare innocent people.
Reality: I only dish out facts. Ignorants be excused. I have never forced anyone to read this site.
Dogma: As far as sealeon is considered it shows who are his parents and their upbringing.If he uses his bad mouth and dirty words by de meaning other religions our hinduism shines then no psychologists in mental wards could be of any help.
Reality: If you could spew baseless allegations on me, so can Sea Lion. besides, I don’t beleive in censoreship. I have allowed my own criticism in my own website. What does it prove?
Dogma: deepak, those who stand for truth are real hindus and not your so called goondas.
Reality: Well, read my other posts. I have sacrificed my career for the sake of truth with capital T. As for the so-called goondas, read the bloodsoaked history of Islam and Christianity.
BTW, have you read Bertrand Russell’s book Why I am not a Christian. Read it before you make unsubstantiated allegations against me.
With best wishes,
Deepak Kamat
September 29th, 2008 at 12:44 am
The Rayan dogma,
Dogma: u have read Bible ,quoran,vedas etc but from all these u got only hatread??? hw is it possible man?? its okey,yaar blogs me kuch bhi liken ,paisa thodi lagtha he????
Reality: I only pointed out the truth. I challenge you to point out falsehoods in my write-ups. Go and wade through my 50 odd posts in this site.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:28 am
Suppose I say mother of Jesus is a prostitute(as she gave birth to Jesus) without even getting married), every christian is going to cry at us. So, living together without hurting each other is the definition of prosperity. Lets don’t hurt each other.
September 29th, 2008 at 2:59 am
“Christians started it. Bajrang Dal retalitated.”
Deepak,
Though you have been avoiding my posts, I will try to reply to yours.
Good that you accept atleast now that Bajrang Dal is behind the attacks. Did Christians attack temples and beatup workshippers? Is physical violence and atrocities the right retaliation for one book with a few abusive words.
When you speak about the bloody History of Islam & Christianity (which is undeniable), why are you forgetting the bloody History of Hinduism itself. The blood shedding was not against other religions, but against our own people who have been humiliated into lower castes and untouchables.
And defending such abuse as that of “SeaLion” shows your true colors.
Nagarjuna,
“Suppose I say mother of Jesus is a prostitute(as she gave birth to Jesus) without even getting married), every christian is going to cry at us.”
Crying is allowed as long as they don’t start attacking temples and beating up Hindus, just because some stupid Hindu abused their religion.
Dear SeaLion,
Most of what you say is totally false. From where are you copy/pasting these items?
September 29th, 2008 at 4:18 am
according to me this type of publishing books & wirting low level comments on hindu god this is not first time it has happend so many times but now hindus are awakening frm long dream so many people came to such matter one think christians should rembebr that jesus have meditated thru shankaracharya than he went back to middle east asia to spread the religion in name of chrisanity he also siad in bible that iam not a god iam a messnger b\w u & god this fact of christian it means that christian is also part of hindusim than also christian crticises hindu & hindu gods
September 29th, 2008 at 5:22 am
@jagadish
Buddy, get your facts right. Jesus never said that He was just a messenger…
This was what He said.
6Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7If you really knew me, you would know[b] my Father as well.”
September 29th, 2008 at 5:33 am
@Deepak Kamat
Why should we look at your 50 odd posts and find that you are telling lies….
Just one of your posts is enough to convey the message that you are supporting the Bajrang Dal for whatever they do.. So since all the information you posted on one of your posts is totally one sided, it shows that you and your information are totally unreliable…
You are supporting your guys soooo much can you show one GOOD social service that your guys do?? Not the acts of raping nuns and burning orphan children alive, please know that these acts are inhuman and not social….
September 29th, 2008 at 5:41 am
@Nagarjuna
If you say that and pubish it, we Christians will only protest peacefully not like your guys going around and destroying others property…
For your information, from the Bible
Luke 1
The Birth of Jesus Foretold
26In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a town in Galilee, 27to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary. 28The angel went to her and said, “Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. 31You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. 32He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end.”
34″How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?”
35The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called[c] the Son of God. 36Even Elizabeth your relative is going to have a child in her old age, and she who was said to be barren is in her sixth month. 37For nothing is impossible with God.”
38″I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May it be to me as you have said.” Then the angel left her.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:07 am
The Ajit Dogma
Dogma: Just one of your posts is enough to convey the message that you are supporting the Bajrang Dal for whatever they do..
Reality: Yes, I not only defend the Bajrang Dal. I also support them in their noble act of showing the criminal missionaries- mullahs their place. Do you have any problems?
Dogma: So since all the information you posted on one of your posts is totally one sided, it shows that you and your information are totally unreliable…
Reality: Just because the information that I post is not confirmed by the pseudosecular media, it does not mean I am wrong. It is the pseudosecular media that is wrong.
Dogma: You are supporting your guys soooo much can you show one GOOD social service that your guys do??
Reality: Bajrangis do a lot of social service. But they don’t advertise like the self-patting missionaries.
Dogma: Not the acts of raping nuns and burning orphan children alive, please know that these acts are inhuman and not social….
Reality: That’s just pseudosecular propagandas. In fact, it is the Padres who rape the nun inside. Google Vatican scandals — you will get to know the number of women and children abused inside the Church premises.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:17 am
Dogma: You say that i condemn the hindus not christians. You very well know what i mean. right? my condemnation is not for hindus but for destroyers of hinduism.
Reality: Just because some Hindu Kshatriyas fight, it is goondagiri for you. What about those who abuse Hindus? Do you expect us to twiddle our thumbs like eunuchs?
Dogma: Here it seems the fight for Gods’ is by some fools who try to de mean other religions to make our God great.
Reality: That is area of specialisation of the Mullahs and Missionaries. Read the Bible and the Koran. Also read the Gita to knjow the difference. Don’t blabber like a Convent educated nunny who has internalised the Padre propaganda.
Dogma: And by doing so they they themselves are demeaning our Gods’ and godess’.
Reality: Read my post carefully to find out who demaned our Gods and goddesses.
Dogma; Look what is happening in Orissa. Though the maoists have claimed more than twice for the attack on swamiji bhajrangdal burnt alive and killed so many innocent christaians and what standing do you have morally?.
Reality: So you expect us to beleive criminals when we have incriminating evidence for Missionary involvement. Silly girl, show your antics to someone else. Visit the North East to know more about NLFT terrorism and its sponsorship by the US.
Dogma: Do we really need RSS or BJP or Bhajrangdal or Deepak Kamat to ignite us and our use our vulnerability to religious cause?
Reality: If not for these Hindu fighters, we would have lost our sovreignity to these Mullah-Padre-Left-Capitalist goons long ago and would have been a banana republic.
Dogma: Cenutury rules of british and catholic percentage is just 2% of total population. What forcible conversion are you talking about?
Reality: Do you know who crypto Christians are? You have swallowed gthe pseudosecular propaganda wholesale. Besides, do you know how the British supported missionaries by giftign them land. The Christians have disproportionate infleucne in India thanks gto the Pope and the foreign masters.
Dogma: Instead force ful is the re conversion by our bhajrangdal fanatics. And you know it better.
Reality: Each action has equal and opposite reacgtion, silly girl. Do you expect Hanuman to acquisce before Ravana. Hanuman’s duty is to set Lanka on fire. Bajrangis have done justice to Mother’s milk.
Dogma: It is always easy to support rich and majority people
Reality: That’s what you do by supporgting Christians. Remember, Christians are bogth rich and majority — if you consider globalisation. Hindus/pagans are actually in the other end of the spectrum.
Dogma: but if you listen to your conscience which you have killed you would have known by now that eeshwar exists in each one of us.
Reality: I do, that’s why I am a masculine Hindu.
Dogma: Christian missionaries have done great works for uplifetment of sick and poor and if they have wronged they should be punished according to the law of the land.
Reality: Their service was just a red herring for conversion. Read Christopher Hitchins. The Hindu way is to serve withougt ulterior motives. Christians are the greatest cons the world has ever seen. Don’t believe me. Read Bertrand Russell.
Dogma: Hindus please wake up and let God lead your way ! not these fanatics. Listen to your conscience…Not these idiots.
Reality: Yes, don’t listen to idiots like Sangeeta Shenoy — who is totally ignorant about ground realities — and has the audacity to advise others.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:18 am
The above post is reply to the dogmas of that silly girl Sangeeta Shenoy who is preaching like a Church padre.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:24 am
Dogma: i have understood your level of understanding.
Reality: With the level of self-righteousness that you possess, how long has it been since you last saw the floor.
Dogma: I said we dont have good teachers to save hinduism and your reply is concept of teachers is christian. wow.
Reality: Well, Hindus don’t need indoctrination. That’s what I meant. In case you can understand Vedanta, you will understand the deeper imports of my words.
Dogma: Dont we have learned people in our scriptures?
Reality: Learned people and scriptures are dime a dozen.
Dogma: The other day in NDTV BJP spokesman called human right ativist Teesta Setalvad “terrorism supporter”.
Reality: No doubts about that.
Dogma: Shame on you Deepak.
Reality Shame and sin are Christian concepts. Kindly decodition yourself from your Christian upbringing.
Dogma: tommorrow if your own child opposes your hypocrisy donot brand him isi agent.
Reality: In the first place, I am not an hypocrite. In fact, I am just a pure reflection of whatever you are. In the second place, I am a bacehlor who does not plan to get married. So your hypothetical hypocrisy has no standing.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:26 am
The above is reply to that silly girl Mala Kamath who is peabrained but thinks she is a genius. I have seen a lot of such brainless geniuses.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:32 am
Dogmas of Rajeev Nair.
Dogma: Though you have been avoiding my posts, I will try to reply to yours.
Reality: I had observed it but had reserved my judgfement.
Dogma: Good that you accept atleast now that Bajrang Dal is behind the attacks.
Reality: It is the missionaries who are behind the attack. The common Hindus retaliated. I am all for Bajrang Dal. I myself am a devotee of Hanuman.
Dogma: Did Christians attack temples and beatup workshippers?
Reality: Oh, Yes, they do and did. Check how many Temples have been damaged in Goa and North East?
Dogma: Is physical violence and atrocities the right retaliation for one book with a few abusive words.
Reality: You are now undermining the problem to just teh book. Realise very well, that American missionaries are bringing in a lot of slush funds to change the constituion of the land. Dont be so naive, Rajeev.
Dogma: When you speak about the bloody History of Islam & Christianity (which is undeniable), why are you forgetting the bloody History of Hinduism itself.
Reality: The history of Hinduism was one of nobility. Don’t beleive me. Read Vivekannada who said that peace reigned until Islam came with its bloody train of murder. Besides, the history that you refer to is the Left-colonial interpretation.
Dogma: The blood shedding was not against other religions, but against our own people who have been humiliated into lower castes and untouchables.
Reality: no blood has been shed. In fact, Varnas were nothing but classes. The Hindu scriptures do not support untouchability. In fact, Hindu soceity was impoverished during 1,000 years of Muslim-Christian-Colonial-Left tyranny.
Dogma: And defending such abuse as that of “SeaLion” shows your true colors.
Reality: Well, do you expect me to sing paens to people who have killed crores. That’s exactly what Christians, Muslims, Leftists and colonialists did.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:37 am
Deepak kamat dogma
1. Violence is not a one-way street. Christians started it. Bajrang Dal retalitated.
reality: Violence was started by meticlous planning by bhajrangdal not christaians. There is law of the land and it is supreme. Who has given you the authority to do attack innocent people?. Are you above law or constitution?.
2.Deepak Dogma:
I only dish out facts. Ignorants be excused. I have never forced anyone to read this site.
Pen is mightier than sword. Here you are using your good talent of writing for causing destruction among people. Religion is opium of the people and passions of people can be aroused easily and you spread hatred in place of love.
3.Deepak Dogma :
If you could spew baseless allegations on me, so can Sea Lion.
reality:
I hope you know what i said. i said “love ” should replace “hatred”, and warned people against being influenced by provocative writings which would ruin our hinduism. You equalled me to sea leon. Be happy he has come to your rescue and he would be first in line to kill many innocent people in future by your influence.
4. Deepak dogma:
BTW, have you read Bertrand Russell’s book Why I am not a Christian. Read it before you make unsubstantiated allegations against me.
Reality:
I donot believing in hating a community just because Bertrand Russel felt so. It is also true that missionaries have worked tirelesly for poor sick and downtrodden. That means more to me. I dont hate you but hate your deeds. You have a flair for writing. use it to grow love not hatred and killing.
September 29th, 2008 at 7:38 am
Hi Deepak,
It is good to See our Swamijis getting together for a noble cause of uniting Hinduism. Their abundant knowledge, leading religious institutions and intellectual power will definitely contribute for the renaissance of Hinduism and Social structure. They know very well when and what to talk, in a stern manner ,without using any foul language. THe role of Bhajarangis is over and let them pave the way for religious leaders without hijacking the situation. The day is not far when Bhajrangis will be a thorn in our neck…..
September 29th, 2008 at 7:57 am
The above is reply to that silly girl Mala Kamath who is peabrained but thinks she is a genius. I have seen a lot of such brainless geniuses.
This girl may be silly but upright and has a good upbringing with right moral standards which so called genius (by self offcourse)lack.
September 29th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Mala kamat not mama kamat
September 29th, 2008 at 9:20 am
More dogma from Mala Kamath
Dogma: This girl may be silly but upright and has a good upbringing with right moral standards which so called genius (by self offcourse)lack.
Reality: Morals – I think you are conditioned by the Victorian standards propogated by the Padres. Thank God, I was educated in a Hindu school and never had to internalise the Padre poison in a Convent school.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:28 am
More dogmas from Mala Kamath
Dogma: Violence was started by meticlous planning by bhajrangdal not christaians.
Reality: How do you know? Do you know that the Church is a MNC with Pope as its CEO and their agenda is well clear with the harvest of the soul. Read Bertrand Russell, silly girl. There is a concerted efforts to swallow Hinduism which the Bajrangis foiled. Anyway, you have proved to be a silly girl who has swallowed media propaganda hook, line and sinker.
Dogma: There is law of the land and it is supreme. Who has given you the authority to do attack innocent people?. Are you above law or constitution?.
Reality: That shows your naiviety. Do you know that the authorities can be bribed very easily given the dollar funding of the Church?
Dogma: Pen is mightier than sword. Here you are using your good talent of writing for causing destruction among people.
Reality: Silly baseless allegations. I only exposed the misdeeds of the missionaries.
Dogma: Religion is opium of the people
Reality: Now this is a Communist dogma. Be original, silly girl.
Dogma: and passions of people can be aroused easily and you spread hatred in place of love.
Reality: If somebody rapes someone and I try to save the victim, can you accuse me of spreading hatred?
Dogma: I hope you know what i said. i said “love ” should replace “hatred”, and warned people against being influenced by provocative writings which would ruin our hinduism.
Reality: Then you should expose the missionaries. They were the ones who abused HInduism. Why were you abusing me?
Dogma: You equalled me to sea leon. Be happy he has come to your rescue and he would be first in line to kill many innocent people in future by your influence.
Reality: Your imagination is worjking overtime.
Dogma: I donot believing in hating a community just because Bertrand Russel felt so. It is also true that missionaries have worked tirelesly for poor sick and downtrodden. That means more to me. I dont hate you but hate your deeds. You have a flair for writing. use it to grow love not hatred and killing.
Reality: So you have proved to be an ignoramus. You do’t want to update your knowledge and are very content in swallowing the media propaganda hook, line and sinker. Grow up, silly girl.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:33 am
@ Mala Kamath,
Also make it a point to visit North East. It is the same Charitable missionaries who are fuelling terrorism in the North East. Got it, silly girl.
Decondition yourself from your Padre influences.
September 29th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Dear Ajit and other fello christians,
thanks for giving so many points from the bible. We have so many good things in bible. Why haven’t we used these points to sow goodness in the minds of the non christian people. Why should we use such bad portrail about other Gods when we oveselves have the worst history behind us (hope you have read the history of Christianity). Is our bible lacking goodness. What would christians do if the same abuse was done to christians in a Christian country. Will we keep quite. I think what they did in (whatever party they belong to) Mangalore was right. Spread the word of God and not the word of Satan (abusing other faiths)
THINK OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD CONVERT THEM TO GOODNESS (IF SO REQUIRED) FROM THE BOTTOM OF THEIR HEART. NOT JUST FOR MONEY AND BLACKMAIL (e.g.the TSUNAMI victims). We dont want people like that and that is not real faith. If it is not possible, lets us convert to their faith. They have been converting our christians in the west by showing what is good for humanity not by denigrating our faith.
And now you know whats making the westerners to embrass other religion and the decrease in attendance in the Vatican.
Think before blabbering.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
WE MUST TEACH A LESSON TO CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES , IF WE KEEP QUITE, WE ARE NOT HINDUS.
September 29th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
@Satyachristiyani
I dont know if you are a Christian, but if you are you should know what these people are actually doing…
And we dint abuse any of their gods.. Did you read some people’s comments who really abused us and our God?? We are telling the truth and did not abuse anyone…
Let me tell you that these so called hindus want to spread Hinduism in the Western Countries but dont allow Christian Missionaries to come to India. Look at the protests they made when Benny Hinn was here(all violent protests)..
They use Church compounds to do Satanic works by Bribing people there…. Are they doing any good work?? In africa, hindus are hated the most because they are known to cheat…
Get your facts right whoever you are..
September 29th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
@Deepak
How silly Deepak, You cannot digest anyone speaking against you by simply calling them dogmas…..
You know an ostrich?? It covers itself under sand and thinks its hiding itself…. You are similar to it. You think every word other than yours are dogmas… You cover yourself and think thats the truth…
What if you dint study in a convent?? Your parents would have… if not then ask your teachers… The knowledge you acquired are not from your Hindu Scriptures did you???
Deepak, get your head out from under the sand and look at the reality….
In India look at who does
Land Grabbing
business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?autono=325338
Child Abuse and Rapes
rickross.com/reference/clergy/clergy652.html
Tell me someone from Bajrang Dal who worked for the Leopers like Mother Theresa…. Why is it that Bajrang Dal is only famous for making Bombs?
dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1191465
communalism.blogspot.com/2008/09/bajrang-dal-indias-hindu-taliban-into.html
And attacking Churches, killing Children and raping Nuns
orissaburning.blogspot.com/
Tell me one good school that belongs to the Bajrangis in India and has produced great people…. Tell me one social service institution that the bajrangis have setup that is known all over India for its service…
You say Christians do self patting…. Did you see any advertisements on TV anytime??? Or did any TV channel ever propogand their work….
Who call themselves savers of Hinduism on TV?? Have your facts right Mr. Deepak..
Look at you, you call Bajrangis acts as noble… Dont you know how much service the Christian Missionaries do??? Dont act stupid, you go to north east and see. Goto the slums and see how Christians help, you wont find any bajrangis there…
Anyways I believe God is looking at all these… He is a just God and will do the Justice…
By the way answer to this question Deepak… What will the missionaries get by going to the slums??? What can they possibly get by giving their money to poor people??? What will they get by living in disease prone areas and jungles??
Ask the real people who were served by the Missionaries…. Also ask people who were served by the Bajrangis….
Look, all the commotion is created by VHP and the Bajrangis not the common people and we in India believe in a democracy By the people….
You have some personal grudge against Christians…. You can read and believe some book written by Bertrand Russell?(His perceptions) and you cannot believe truths written in the Bible….
You can also read books like
How we got our Bible By Chuck Missler??
You just wont because you have a premedetated mind to attack on Christians yourself….
September 29th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
What Some Famous People Have Said About Christianity
Few excerpts:
1. Raja Ram Mohan Roy, (1772-1833), Indian reformer:
Most Christian converts had been allured to change their faith by other attractions than by a conviction of the truth and reasonableness.
2. Swami Vivekananda (1863-1902), Indian spiritualist:
They come to my country and abuse my forefathers, my religion, and everything; they walk near a temple and say ‘you idolators, you will go to hell’, but they dare not do this to the Mohammedans of India, for the sword will be out, but the Hindu is too mild.
3. Abraham Lincoln (American Statesman, 1809-1865):
“The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.”
“My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures have become clearer and stronger with advancing years, and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them.”
I see a very dark cloud on America’s horizon, and that cloud is coming from Rome.
4. Bertrand Russell (1872-1970) British philosopher -
Christianity has been distinguished from other religions by its greater readiness for persecution. “The whole contention that Christianity has had an elevating moral influence can only be maintained by wholesale ignorance or falsification of the historical evidence.
I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world.
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence.
5. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900), Irish author:
When I think of all the harm the Bible has done, I despair of ever writing anything to equal it.
Missionaries are going to reform the world whether it wants to or not.
6. James Madison (American Statesman, 1751-1836, Co-Author Declaration of Independence):
“During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.”
“In no instance have … the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people.”
Read more here (a must read site).
http://www.burningcross.net/crusades/famous-quotes-christianity-2.html
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“The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.” ~ Albert Einstein.
September 29th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Dear Brothers,
Truth is Truth and one cannot deny that God is one and Only One..
He Manifests himself in different forms..
Brahma, Vishnu , Maheswara, Jesus are sons of the Absoulte God the God of Gods. We all should know the essence of the Truth, the Real and Absolute God..
Hindus Call him ParaBrahma or OM (No Human Shape), Christians call him The Almighty and Muslims call him Alla..
G = Generation (Brahma)
O = Operation (Vishnu)
D = Destruction (Maheswara)
This is behavior of Universe which has its origin from Almighty..
Hindus given Extraordinary Human Shapes to these behaviors which is inevitable to any entity to this universe..
Hindus also proposed 3 crore Gods which are nothing but the Manifestation of Nature’s forces which are nothing but the essence of Almighty..
Vedic scriptures were scientific understanding of the Universe around us.. about We all Human Beings, our behaviour.. and The right way of Living..
To reach him The Almighty they told to practice the Sacrifice thru Meditation..
They showed the right path to live and co-exist..
It is the misunderstanding of Hinduism by Hindus themselves that they are getting Royally Screwd..
September 29th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
@ Rajeev Nair:
1. Are you a Hindu or a convert? If you are a convert disguised as Hindu, then you are simply doing what is very core philosophy of christian faith, that is self-deception. If you are a Hindu, then I request you to read writings of Swami Vivekananda, Sri Aurobindo, Mahatma Ganhdi etc on aggressive and unethical christian conversions.
2. It seems, you are as confused as taking shelter under self-deceptions.
Why not you read Goa Inquisition under the leadership of infamous Francis Xavier (Vatican decorated that cruel mass-murderer as Saint), and see, how many thousands of Hindu temples were destroyed and converted into church, and how many lakhs of Hindus were cruelly killed using diverse cruel tactics as per the Inquisition Instruments of Portoguese govt and Vatican.
3. ‘Goa Inquisition was most merciless and cruel’
http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/14inter1.htm
Also watch.
Part 1-Goa Freedom Struggle – Goa Inquisition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RObk8XNMkM
Always remember: Truth unfolds itself, thats why our national motto: Satyameva Jayate (Truth alone triumphs).
September 29th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Thank God for this! Really. In a completely skewed perspective of the Media which considers being anti-Hindu as secular and sophisticated, this comes as a refreshing relief. Please let me know if you need any assistance in furthering your efforts!
Jai Hind
September 30th, 2008 at 12:30 am
@Bharath
You are probably forgetting the history of your religion my friend…
Remember Sati, Untouchability and castism…. all of which are prevelent even today… Remember how Dr. Ambedkar was rejected, he too was a Hindu himself…
Dont tell its a social evil or some other terms… It was created by Hinduism….
It would have killed millions of people, especially woman… You must also realize that this was banned by British, the same British that you only remember for their bad works…
I agree that many “Christians” are not living a life as told in the Bible, but that doesnt mean Christianity or the sayings of the Bible are bad.. If you see today, Christian missionaries are synonymous for their sevice among the poor people.
You must see the core values in the books of the respective religions…
Nowhere in the Bible you will find that a person is instructed to kill and murder. It might only be during wars that this would have happened..
But the new testement of the bible is more clear and strictly instructs not to follow Violent ways…
Also, you must not come to conclusions after checking certain passages from the bible, you must know the context of those sentences..
September 30th, 2008 at 1:08 am
Every one who opposes vicious plans of bhajrangdal either branded ”pseudo secularists” or ” peanut brained” or “padre up bringing”. by deepak Kamat. That shows his frustration.
September 30th, 2008 at 2:05 am
Dear Bharat,
I am still a Hindu and not any convert to Christianity. Infact in my student days I was an ABVP activist by accident. Even today I have many old friends who are members and ex-members of RSS.
I am not ignorant of anything you or Deepak says. I am well acquainted with the works of Vivekananda & Aurobindo, and am well aware of World History to know about which religion did what.
Don’t let yourself to be brainwashed by this hate propaganda. Sangh Parivar organizations are committing slow suicide by going for this hate propaganda. Atleast in public, even people like Advani and Yediyurappa are ashamed of what is done by Sanghis. It won’t do Hindus or Hinduism any good by following this hate ideology.
One thing I most dislike in Sangh Parivar organizations (particularly VHP & BD) is that they bring out their manliness and pride only among helpless people. They can boast of fighting for Hinduism by killing and attacking unarmed priests, nuns, muslims, etc. But when Hindus face a real problem (like that of Kashmiri Pandits) the Sanghi fighting spirit becomes mere talk and hence impotent. Its only recently that Sangh Parivar organizations have taken the Kashmiri Pandit problem seriously and that too with political motives.
Not to speak about how the forerunners of these organizations collaborated with British against Indian Freedom Movement, or the murder of Gandhiji by a Hindu fanatic.
Don’t let fascist propaganda material by Golwalkar, Rajaram, Sitaram Goel, F. Gautier, K. Elst, Frawley, etc. brainwash you. Start reading some better books and articles. The Sangh Parivar hates anyone who doesn’t agree with them, its not just the Muslims and Christians alone. The Sanghi hate list even includes eminent people like Amartya Sen, Swami Agnivesh of Arya Samaj.
The world is much bigger than the narrow ideology of Hinduvata. And most importantly Sangh Parivar != Hinduism.
September 30th, 2008 at 2:24 am
I am not a supporter of Christian conversion or Islamic fanaticism. But what organizations like VHP, BD are doing to fight conversion is much worse than conversion itself.
Gandhiji too was opposed to Christian conversion, but nobody (not even Christians) calls him a Hindu fanatic. With all his human limitations Gandhiji was a better Hindu than most of us. Try to understand why Sangh Parivar is called fanatic and not Gandhiji.
The History of every religion is full of violence. For every Crusade and Inquisition we have our own contributions in the form of caste based violence, Sati, Witch craft, etc.
There is no need build a propaganda based on a Christianity that existed 500/1000 years ago. I know what modern Christianity is, because I have lived among many Christians in Kerala and US.