DENIGRATION OF HINDU GODS IS THE REAL REASON FOR ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS IN MANGALORE
The Following are the list of abuses from one such book – Satya Darshini – distributed by the missionaries of New Life. This book is in Kannada and the translation of the abusive passage is as follows.
· Urvashi – the daughter of Narayana– is a prostitute. Vashitha is the son of this prostitute. He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48)
· When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a need for us to liberate his misled followers. (page 50)
· It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita. Since Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were themselves the victims of lust, it is a sin to consider them as Gods. (page 39)
· When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by lust and anger, how can they liberate others. Their projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39).
· When Vishnu asked Brahma to commit a sin, he immediately did so. How can such a “evil brahma” be a Creator of this Universe? How is it possible for both the sinner and the entity which provoked the sin to be gods? (page 39)
· God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are worshipping False Gods that believe in the pleasures of illicit ‘Vyabichari’ relationships. (Page 39).
2. All the 16 incidents that took place were not attack on Churches. In fact, unauthorized prayer halls were attacked where the blasphemous pamphlets were distributed and aggressive proselytisation was taking place. These 16 incidents were not localized but took place across three districts of Mangalore, Udupi and Chikmagalur.
3. The only place where attacks took place apart from New Life Prayer Halls was at a small prayer hall in the premises of Milagres Church in Mangalore, where some miscreants had damaged a Jesus idol. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the attack at this place. Following this incident, a Christian mob gathered and the situation went out of control as the mob started pelting stones and disrupting traffic. The police was forced to intervene and this resulted in unsavoury violence.
4. Since the past two days, it is not Hindu-Christian clashes that are taking place. In fact, it is more appropriate to call it”Christian-Police” clashes since the Christians holed up in Churches have engaged themselves in pelting of stones and disruption of traffic. The Police were forced to enter the Church to clear the mob and they found arms inside the Church.
5. Incidents of Stabbing were reported in around four or five places across Mangalore district. In fact, an activist belonging to Shri Ram Sena was stabbed which led to a bandh call by Shri Ram Sena – a Hindu outfit that is not connected to Sangh Parivar.
6. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the desecration of Jesus idol at the prayer hall adjacent to the Milagres Church in Mangalore. They have also clarified that they are not against the Catholic faith and the Churches. However, they have clarified that the public outcry would continue as long as illicit conversion activities and blasphemy of Hindu gods take place.
7. Even the Kandhmahal murder — which involved the killing of Hindu monk Swami Lakshmananda by missionaries – seems to have caste a shadow on this incident since the general public seems to have seen through Christian aggression.
8. It may be recalled that there was a public outcry against illegal prayer halls in Davanagere district last week. In that case, the administration had closed the unauthorized prayer halls that were mushrooming in the region.
-----Email: greathindu@in.com
Fascist Trends in Indian Media
September 30th, 2008 at 2:25 am
Is this what our hinduism is?. Are these “saviors’ of hinduism?
These are terrorists we must desist and dis own, being influenced by its hateful propaganda.
please read today’s hindu news paper and you will know level of these bhajrangdal outfits.
http://www.hindu.com/2008/09/30/stories/2008093058040100.htm
September 30th, 2008 at 2:26 am
>Don’t let fascist propaganda material by Golwalkar, Rajaram, Sitaram Goel, F. Gautier, K. Elst, Frawley, etc. brainwash you. Start reading some better books and articles. The Sangh Parivar hates anyone who doesn’t agree with them, its not just the Muslims and Christians alone. The Sanghi hate list even includes eminent people like Amartya Sen, Swami Agnivesh of Arya Samaj.
OYE CHRISTIAN KUTTAE AJIT WHO ASKED YOU FOR YOUR DIRTY FILTHY OPINION HERE ON OUR HINDU SITE. FIRST I HOPE U AND YOUR SONIA MAINO WILL FUCK THE NAZI POPE FOR KILLING THE 1.2 BILLION HUMANS WORLDWIDE AND MAKE VATI-CUNTIST “SECULAR” WITH A TEMPLE, MOSQUE, AND SYNAGOUGE THERE. NO U WON’T. YOU MF, PIGS SATAN WORSHIPPING BASTDS WANT “SECULARISM” AS DEFINNED BY A FILTHY, UNCULTURED ANIMAL CALLED CHRISTIAN WHEREVER U R A MINORITY BUT ONCE A MAJORITY JUST START ATTACKING OTHERS. YOU ARE FILTHY CIA SNAKES, TRAITORS WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN BUTCHERED ENMASSE FOR THE HELP EXTENDED TO BRITISH DOGS
“KILL CHRISTIANS SAVE HUMANITY FROM EXTINCTION AND MOTHERFUCKERS”.
MR 5PAISA CONVERT OR A PRODUCT OF PORTUGESE SPIT, BEDWRAMER LECTURING HERE.
>The world is much bigger than the narrow ideology of Hinduvata. And most importantly Sangh Parivar != Hinduism<
YES AND FLAT. AS THE CHURCH INSISTS, ANYBODY WITH CONTRARY OPINION WOULD FACE INQUISITION, AND DEATH AT THE HEAD OF BLOOD THIRSTY CHURCHIANITY.
YES WORLD WAS CREATED IN 6 DAYS, AND ANYBOSYWITH CONTRARY OIPINION FACES DEATH BY XIAN DEATH SQUAD
AND CHRISTIN FUCKERS WITH HINDU NAMES FIRST CHANGE THE NAMES TO CUNTS NAMES LIEK JOHN, JAMES, “JEBUS”.
WORLD IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THE GUTTER PSEUDORELIGIOUS IDEOLOGY OF CHRISTIANITY, WORSHIPPING JULIUS CEASER, SPECIALLY “CHURCHIANITY”
September 30th, 2008 at 2:33 am
I am secular: Advani
SHILLONG: Seen as the face of hardline Hindutva, senior BJP leader L.K. Advani said on Monday he studied in a Christian missionary school and he was “very much a secular man.” He said his party stood for peaceful co-existence of all religious groups.
Representatives from Christian, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist and tribal organisations participated in the meet that was aimed at clarifying the saffron party’s stand on the attacks on Christians, churches and prayer halls in Orissa and Karnataka. — PTI
another piece of report from the hindu. Now do you need another axample for Pseudo secularist”?
You said you are not product of christian education ..but your leader is. Ism’t it irony?
Double faced and double toungued you are ..but please have the courage to ACCEPT it too. Now every one knows who is the DOGMA.
September 30th, 2008 at 2:47 am
SeaLion,
Ha Ha Ha… Who told you I am Ajit? I can understand your frustration. Your culture and behavior is exemplary and typical of Sangh Parivar attitude. I am a Hindu still you hate me for disagreeing with you.
I don’t need to prove to you I am a Hindu. You are not a Hindu but a fascist egoist who is trying to fill his ego in the name of Hinduism. Hinduism is bigger than and different from Sangh Parivar.
[i]CHRISTIAN WHEREVER U R A MINORITY BUT ONCE A MAJORITY JUST START ATTACKING OTHERS[/i]
Do you know how many Ashrams Hindu Swamis have in Christian USA? Do you know how many Hindu temples are built all over Christian nations? Do you know how many Hindus makes fortunes in Christian countries? Compare that with the case of Islamic countries.
Don’t behave like a fool.
September 30th, 2008 at 2:51 am
Who is a Hindu?
New definition which Deepak, SeaLion, etc. would like to have:
“A Hindu is anybody who agrees to Sangh Parivar idealogy, others are psuedo-secularists or psuedo-Hindus”
September 30th, 2008 at 2:59 am
>>why cant u directly say that, i dont have any answer for the truth of lord jesus christ????
MUNNA!!! naraaz math ho yaar, aisa kabi kabi hota hai!!! jindagi me bahut baate pehli baar hi patha chalthi he. jyada gussa math ho , tumhara gussa tumhe hi takleef pahunchayega, baaki sab yeh blogs me lik rahe hai woh sab apne apne ghar pe baite hai.
MAMOO!! i think u need “JADOO KI JAPKI” dont worry we all pray for u one day u will be blessed by jesus to preach lords words.
afterall jesus came for sinners,
jesus never hates anybody , only thing he hates is the sin in you. he loves u, u will experience that love very soon.
jesus is standing at the door of ur heart ,and knocking its because of ur stubbornness u can not hear him.<<
HEY JEBUS FREAK C’MON YOU AND THE HINDU NAMED 5 PAISA CONVERTS LIKE MALA KAMAT ACTUALLY MALA-D, TWO BIT DOGS CHRISTIAN MADDOG GO AND GET YOUR BRAIN TESTED. IT MAYBE THE EFFECT OF CHRISTUS URINE (SCOTCH),OR SOME DRUG WHICH U MIGHT BE FED BY THE SATAN WORSHIPPING CHURCH. IT IS ME SON, REPLYING TO ONE OF YOUR CREED MADNUT CHRISTIAN BARKING ABOVE.
OH IT MAYBE THE MADDOG JOHN DAYAL, WITH MANY NAMES. YES JESUS, CAME FOR SINNERS RIGHT, SO ALL THE CRIMINALS, BARBARIANS, WHOREISM STARTS FROM CHRISTIANITY. HE IS SIN PERSONIFIED HANG ON SAAR MAT THOK, YAAR, YOU HAVE TEESTA SETALWAAD, A KNOWN CIA WHORE, A BEDWARMER OF LANGLEY HERE UNDER THE NAME OF MALA-D SORRY MALA KAMAT. YES HE CAME FOR THE SINNERS NO DOUBTS SO DID BUT WHERE IS SIN IN CHRISTIANITY, AFTER ALL YOU POPES HAVE FUCKED MOTHERS AND SISTESR, NO SEE MY POSTS ABOVE.
SO YOU SEE DEEPAK IN MY POSTS, SORRY YOU CHRISTIANS HAVE PIG BRAINS, AFTER ALL YOU EAT ANYTHING MOVING NO, ANKE, DOGS (AH A DELICACY FOR XIANS). TYPICAL MURDERER, BARBARIAN, SAVAGE DEBAUCHERY WITH WORDS. JESUS IS ON YOUR DOORS, FOR THE SINNERS (SO FUCK UR MOTHER HAVE CHRISTUS URINE, AND GO HE WOULD WASH IT). VOW!! BIB-LIE EDUCATED “TOPPERS” HE HE HE
C’MON SON ON YOUR EVIL BIBLE. CALL YOUR 5 PAISA CHRISTIAN MOMMY MALA-D, SORRY MALA KAMAT ALSO
NO DOUBT YOUR4 GOD, CAME “FOR” SINNERS AS U RIGHTLY SAY BUT SORRY U FORGOT “FOR THE SINNERS, BY THE SINNERS OF THE SINNERS”
1.Pillage and Plunder
For the land of Israel lies empty and broken after your attacks, but the LORD will restore its honor and power again. Shields flash red in the sunlight! The attack begins! See their scarlet uniforms! Watch as their glittering chariots move into position, with a forest of spears waving above them. The chariots race recklessly along the streets and through the squares, swift as lightning, flickering like torches. The king shouts to his officers; they stumble in their haste, rushing to the walls to set up their defenses. But too late! The river gates are open! The enemy has entered! The palace is about to collapse! Nineveh’s exile has been decreed, and all the servant girls mourn its capture. Listen to them moan like doves; watch them beat their breasts in sorrow. Nineveh is like a leaking water reservoir! The people are slipping away. “Stop, stop!” someone shouts, but the people just keep on running. Loot the silver! Plunder the gold! There seems no end to Nineveh’s many treasures – its vast, uncounted wealth. Soon the city is an empty shambles, stripped of its wealth. Hearts melt in horror, and knees shake. The people stand aghast, their faces pale and trembling. (Nahum 2:2-10 NLT)
An Angry Jealous God
“I have wiped out many nations, devastating their fortress walls and towers. Their cities are now deserted; their streets are in silent ruin. There are no survivors to even tell what happened. I thought, ‘Surely they will have reverence for me now! Surely they will listen to my warnings, so I won’t need to strike again.’ But no; however much I punish them, they continue their evil practices from dawn till dusk and dusk till dawn.” So now the LORD says: “Be patient; the time is coming soon when I will stand up and accuse these evil nations. For it is my decision to gather together the kingdoms of the earth and pour out my fiercest anger and fury on them. All the earth will be devoured by the fire of my jealousy. “On that day I will purify the lips of all people, so that everyone will be able to worship the LORD together. My scattered people who live beyond the rivers of Ethiopia will come to present their offerings. (Zephaniah 3:6-10 NLT)
God’s Human Slaughter Fest
Stand in silence in the presence of the Sovereign LORD, for the awesome day of the LORD’s judgment has come. The LORD has prepared his people for a great slaughter and has chosen their executioners. “On that day of judgment,” says the LORD, “I will punish the leaders and princes of Judah and all those following pagan customs. Yes, I will punish those who participate in pagan worship ceremonies, and those who steal and kill to fill their masters’ homes with loot. “On that day,” says the LORD, “a cry of alarm will come from the Fish Gate and echo throughout the newer Mishneh section of the city. And a great crashing sound will come from the surrounding hills. Wail in sorrow, all you who live in the market area, for all who buy and sell there will die. “I will search with lanterns in Jerusalem’s darkest corners to find and punish those who sit contented in their sins, indifferent to the LORD, thinking he will do nothing at all to them. They are the very ones whose property will be plundered by the enemy, whose homes will be ransacked. They will never have a chance to live in the new homes they have built. They will never drink wine from the vineyards they have planted. “That terrible day of the LORD is near. Swiftly it comes – a day when strong men will cry bitterly. It is a day when the LORD’s anger will be poured out. It is a day of terrible distress and anguish, a day of ruin and desolation, a day of darkness and gloom, of clouds, blackness, trumpet calls, and battle cries. Down go the walled cities and strongest battlements! “Because you have sinned against the LORD, I will make you as helpless as a blind man searching for a path. Your blood will be poured out into the dust, and your bodies will lie there rotting on the ground.” Your silver and gold will be of no use to you on that day of the LORD’s anger. For the whole land will be devoured by the fire of his jealousy. He will make a terrifying end of all the people on earth. (Zephaniah 1:7:18 NLT)
Ten Thousand Murdered at God’s Command
After Joshua died, the Israelites asked the LORD, “Which tribe should attack the Canaanites first?” The LORD answered, “Judah, for I have given them victory over the land.” The leaders of Judah said to their relatives from the tribe of Simeon, “Join with us to fight against the Canaanites living in the territory allotted to us. Then we will help you conquer your territory.” So the men of Simeon went with Judah. When the men of Judah attacked, the LORD gave them victory over the Canaanites and Perizzites, and they killed ten thousand enemy warriors at the town of Bezek. While at Bezek they encountered King Adoni-bezek and fought against him, and the Canaanites and Perizzites were defeated. Adoni-bezek escaped, but the Israelites soon captured him and cut off his thumbs and big toes. Adoni-bezek said, “I once had seventy kings with thumbs and big toes cut off, eating scraps from under my table. Now God has paid me back for what I did to them.” They took him to Jerusalem, and he died there. The men of Judah attacked Jerusalem and captured it, killing all its people and setting the city on fire. (Judges 1:1-8 NLT)
Exterminate 7 Nations
You must destroy all the nations the LORD your God hands over to you. Show them no mercy and do not worship their gods. If you do, they will trap you. Perhaps you will think to yourselves, ‘How can we ever conquer these nations that are so much more powerful than we are?’ But don’t be afraid of them! Just remember what the LORD your God did to Pharaoh and to all the land of Egypt. Remember the great terrors the LORD your God sent against them. You saw it all with your own eyes! And remember the miraculous signs and wonders, and the amazing power he used when he brought you out of Egypt. The LORD your God will use this same power against the people you fear. And then the LORD your God will send hornets to drive out the few survivors still hiding from you! “No, do not be afraid of those nations, for the LORD your God is among you, and he is a great and awesome God. The LORD your God will drive those nations out ahead of you little by little. You will not clear them away all at once, for if you did, the wild animals would multiply too quickly for you. But the LORD your God will hand them over to you. He will throw them into complete confusion until they are destroyed. He will put their kings in your power, and you will erase their names from the face of the earth. No one will be able to stand against you, and you will destroy them all. (Deuteronomy 7:16-24 NLT)
Bible Quote for March 28
God Discriminates Against the Handicapped
Then the LORD said to Moses, “Tell Aaron that in all future generations, his descendants who have physical defects will not qualify to offer food to their God. No one who has a defect may come near to me, whether he is blind or lame, stunted or deformed, or has a broken foot or hand, or has a humped back or is a dwarf, or has a defective eye, or has oozing sores or scabs on his skin, or has damaged testicles. Even though he is a descendant of Aaron, his physical defects disqualify him from presenting offerings to the LORD by fire. Since he has a blemish, he may not offer food to his God. However, he may eat from the food offered to God, including the holy offerings and the most holy offerings. Yet because of his physical defect, he must never go behind the inner curtain or come near the altar, for this would desecrate my holy places. I am the LORD who makes them holy.” (Leviticus 21:16-23 NLT)
God Kills the Curious
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and’ fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)
Rivers of Blood
I will leave your flesh on the mountains, and fill the valleys with your carcass. I will water the land with what flows from you, and the river beds shall be filled with your blood. When I snuff you out I will cover the heavens, and all the stars will darken; (Ezekiel 32:5-7 NAB)
Women Are Subordinate to Men
Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, who was deceived by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty. (1 Timothy 2:11-15 NLT)
Hate Your Family
(Jesus Speaking) If anyone comes to me without hating his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he can not be my disciple. (Luke 14:26 NAB)
AND YES THIS PROVES THE POINT SATAN IS GOD GOD IS SATAN VOW
Bible Quote for March 17
God is the Source of Evil Spirits
Then an evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with spear in hand and David was playing the harp nearby. Saul tried to nail David to the wall with the spear , but David eluded Saul, so that the spear struck only the wall, and David got away safe. (1 Samuel 19:9-10 NAB)
YES FOR BDSM XIAN ADDITS LIKE MALA-D (TEESTA SETALWAD, THE CIA SHITPOT, 5 PAISA CONVERT)
Women Are Subordinate to Men
Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, and afterward he made Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, who was deceived by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty. (1 Timothy 2:11-15 NLT)
Shut Up Women!
As in all the churches of the holy ones, women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate, as even the law says. But if they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church. (1 Corinthians 14:33-35 NAB)
GREAT HEY DEEPAK KAMAT APNE GHAR KO KEEL DO, BECAUSE EVIL SPIRITS “FOR THE SINNERS, BY THE SINNERS AND OF THE SINNERS” WHICH OUR “BIB-LIE TOPPER” AND RAYAN SAYS MAY ALSO BE AT YOUR DOORSTEP, SO BETTER PURIFY EVEN YOUR DOORS, I WILL DO MINE.
SORRY XIANS BRAINLESS SCUMS. SONIA MAINO WHO IS COVERTLY BEHIND YOU CHRISTIAN GOONS (AND WHORES) HERE IS GOING TO LOOSE HEAVILY.
HEY BETTER HAVE A NICE BDSM NIGHTOUT WITH SOME TEESTA SEETALWADS MALA-Ds. “JESUS IS FOR SINNERS”
September 30th, 2008 at 3:00 am
@SeaLion
First you say I am a convert, you dont even know who I am…
Then you say that I am Rajeev Nair…
Hey you yourself are hiding your name, remember that….
September 30th, 2008 at 3:10 am
TO QUOTE YOUR OWN SHAKESPEARE “ONE MORE THE MORE TO AGGRAVATE THE NOTE, WITH A FOUL TRAITORS NAME STUFF I THY THROAT” TO ALL THE PIMPS (AND WHORES).
YEA OFFCOURSE “FOR THE SINNERS, BY THE SINNERS AND OFF THE SINNERS” (AND OFFCOURSE FOR THE SATAN, BY THE SATAN, OF THE SATAN)
David’s Punishment – Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God’s “Forgiveness” (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: ‘I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.’
Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” Nathan answered David: “The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die.” [The child dies seven days later.]
Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
“When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive’s garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion.”
SPECIALLY FOR MALA-D (SORRY THEESTHA SEX-TALWAD). SORRY SOMEBODY MIGHT HAVE FOLLOWED IT TO THE TEE, WE CANNOT BLAME THE POOR 5 PAISA CONVERT MALA-D
Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
September 30th, 2008 at 3:11 am
SeaLion,
Hiding behind an false name (an most inappropriate one though), how greatly you are showing your valor. Try to come out with your real name and tell at least one sensible thing.
You are saying I am Ajit. If I say you are Deepak Kamat in disguise, how will you disprove it?
My apologies to Deepak if thats not the case.
Hate breeds hate. Any non-Hindu whose first encounter with Hinduism is these posts by this guy called SeaLion is definitely going to hate Hinduism, while Hinduism proper is very different from what these hate posts say.
Now tell me SeaLion. Have you read or studied anything about Hinduism at all. You are yet to grow up.
Ajit,
My sincere request to you. Try not to make this an opportunity to preach Christianity. This is not a debate on which religion is better or truer. Its more like “blind hate vs commonsense”.
September 30th, 2008 at 3:39 am
@ Sea Lion,
Keep it up. Expose those Christian barbarians and share my work.
@ Sangeeta Shenoy,
Grow up, silly girl. CHINDU is the national newspaper of China.
September 30th, 2008 at 3:46 am
The Sangeeta Shenoy dogma
Dogma: You said you are not product of christian education ..but your leader is.
Reality: I am a Hindu and I don’t have any leaders, certainly not that old man Advani — who is super-annuated and is now a virtual padre.
However, I support any ass that supports Hinduism and I will oppose any bitch like you who has the temerity to abuse the Hindu warriors.
Dogma: Ism’t it irony?
Reality: It’s ironical for a pea-brained bitch like you. As for me, I am an independent Hindu who does not need leaders to show me the way. After all, Swami Vivekananda called us “Amritasya Putraha” and so did the Upanishads. Of course, your pseudosecular media will not tell this to you.
Dogma: Double faced and double toungued you are ..but please have the courage to ACCEPT it too.
Reality: Now you are proving your pseudosecular credentials.
Dogma: Now every one knows who is the DOGMA.
Reality: You are full of it. Decondition yourself.
September 30th, 2008 at 3:49 am
Deepak,
After reading your article about Osho, I thought you were a sensible person. You are being childish here.
I saw in the home page that you were asking Karan Thapar to grow up. Do you think anybody who disagrees with you are below your intelligence?
September 30th, 2008 at 3:52 am
@ Bharat,
Good work. We should decondition all our Hindu youths who are brainwashed by the pseudosecular media.
My next book is on:
Exposing Indian Media.
I will expose those bastards who are denigrating the Hindu faiths. It is high time that these shady characters are exposed.
September 30th, 2008 at 5:06 am
Dear all my Hindu Brothers and Sisters,
Having gone through the series of terrorist attacks recently and this conversion issues, its high time that we all HINDU woke up and start getting organized ourselves. Otherwise, see to support terrorist there are many TERRORIST group in at least 70 differnt countries and to support this christians, they are many christian countries (read todays times of india, 30th Sep 08, where Russian PM has commented).
But for us there are no countries, there are no groups to support us.
We all have to get together and do something to retain IDENTITY, otherwise this TERRORIST will WIPE AWAY our identity or else we have to follow thier terms.
I would like to is there any yahoo group, MSN group or GMAIL group where only HINDUS are members and we discuss the issues with Hindus.
You can reach me at my mail: mahesharaots@yahoo.com
Regards,
Mahesh Rao
September 30th, 2008 at 5:13 am
@Everyone
The God of the OLD testement always wanted perfection from the people as they were made in the form of God… Doesnt your father expect the same from you??? A sin committed would immideately result in wrath of God, which is why sacrifices were made with repentance to obtain forgiveness. People repeating the sins were not spared by God…
Because of CHrist, these rules on Humanity were relaxed because of CHrists pardon for Mankind.. Gods wrath on mankind was stopped by Christ himself. That is why we sinners(Humans) need Christ to obtain Salvation… now understand???
Let me answer to your specific passages from the bible
David’s Punishment – Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God’s “Forgiveness” (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
11Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.
12For thou didst it secretly: but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.
13And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.
14Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
15And Nathan departed unto his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.
Reason: The child of David was taken from him for one reason. The same reason the son of Pharoah was taken. To soften his heart and get him to repent. Children are innocent in God’s eyes and cannot sin. that is why they are often called home. Once David lost his wives and son, he repented before God and his wife gave birth to Solomon who was favored in God’s eyes. David had to humble himself before God before he could receive the blessing of God.
Besides your so called gods also practice polygamy… did you forget that??
Dude the next one that you had referred is a made up translation, the bible doesnt say that but instead says this
Marrying a Captive Woman
10 When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.
14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.
When you desire a wife from among the captive women:
² Bring her to your house.
² She shall shave her head and trim her nails, and put off the cloths of her captivity.
² You must respect her loss and grant her a full month of mourning for her parents.
² You may then go in to her and be her husband, caring for her, cherishing her, as your wife. [Deuteronomy 21:13, Ephesians 5:25-33, Colossians 3:19, 1 Peter 3:7]
² She shall be your wife.
Y If you have no delight in her: [Exodus 21:7-10, Deuteronomy 21:14]
² Set her free.
² You may not sell her for money.
² You may not treat her brutally.
² Because you have humbled her.
² God wants the marriage relationship to be one of love, peace, and contentment. [1 Corinthians 7:12-16]
The next quote from the bible is also incorrect, CHeck this…
Exodus 21:7-11 7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do. 8 If she does not please the master who has selected her for himself, [a] he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her. 9 If he selects her for his son, he must grant her the rights of a daughter. 10 If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights. 11 If he does not provide her with these three things, she is to go free, without any payment of money.
Reason: Contrary to popular opinion, wives were not “bought” and “sold” in Israel. A bridegroom’s family did give money or gifts to the bride’s family, known as the mohar (often misleadingly translated “bride price”). But this wasn’t really the “purchase price” for the young woman. It cemented the relationship between the two families, it compensated the bride’s family for the loss of her labor, and it served as a kind of “pre-paid alimony” in case the marriage dissolved.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:15 am
Mahesh,
You are right. The Hindu society is highly divided and hence politically weak. The minority (mainly Muslim) appeasement politics of Congress and many other parties is a result of this divisiveness in Hindu society.
There is no doubt that in a democratic system as ours Hindus have to unite and get what is their due.
But can’t we do that as sensible Hindus and human beings? Do we need to act like barbarians & goondas and follow a foolish fascist hate ideology for that?
This is where I differ. Unless we are true to ourselves, nobody will accept us. When people catch us lying and twisting history & facts, even the truths we tell won’t have any value. This is where Sangh Parivar approach is wrong. The solution they offer is even worse than the problem.
Except for a few leaders, the whole bunch of people who make up such organizations are without any opinion of their own, don’t know what is right or wrong and are easily brainwashed.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:34 am
@Sealion
Nahum 2:2-10
The LORD will restore the splendor of Jacob
like the splendor of Israel,
though destroyers have laid them waste
and have ruined their vines.
3 The shields of his soldiers are red;
the warriors are clad in scarlet.
The metal on the chariots flashes
on the day they are made ready;
the spears of pine are brandished. [a]
4 The chariots storm through the streets,
rushing back and forth through the squares.
They look like flaming torches;
they dart about like lightning.
5 He summons his picked troops,
yet they stumble on their way.
They dash to the city wall;
the protective shield is put in place.
6 The river gates are thrown open
and the palace collapses.
7 It is decreed [b] that the city
be exiled and carried away.
Its slave girls moan like doves
and beat upon their breasts.
8 Nineveh is like a pool,
and its water is draining away.
“Stop! Stop!” they cry,
but no one turns back.
9 Plunder the silver!
Plunder the gold!
The supply is endless,
the wealth from all its treasures!
10 She is pillaged, plundered, stripped!
Hearts melt, knees give way,
bodies tremble, every face grows pale.
Reason: Did you read it properly?? Why is God doing this?
To bring Nineveh to account
To show their(Nineva’s) wickedness to the world
To show their shame to the world
To turn their own evil upon them
Wrath Of God On people who disobey Him
7 Be silent before the Sovereign LORD,
for the day of the LORD is near.
The LORD has prepared a sacrifice;
he has consecrated those he has invited.
8 On the day of the LORD’s sacrifice
I will punish the princes
and the king’s sons
and all those clad
in foreign clothes.
9 On that day I will punish
all who avoid stepping on the threshold, [a]
who fill the temple of their gods
with violence and deceit.
10 “On that day,” declares the LORD,
“a cry will go up from the Fish Gate,
wailing from the New Quarter,
and a loud crash from the hills.
11 Wail, you who live in the market district [b] ;
all your merchants will be wiped out,
all who trade with [c] silver will be ruined.
12 At that time I will search Jerusalem with lamps
and punish those who are complacent,
who are like wine left on its dregs,
who think, ‘The LORD will do nothing,
either good or bad.’
13 Their wealth will be plundered,
their houses demolished.
They will build houses
but not live in them;
they will plant vineyards
but not drink the wine.
The Great Day of the Lord
14 “The great day of the LORD is near—
near and coming quickly.
Listen! The cry on the day of the LORD will be bitter,
the shouting of the warrior there.
15 That day will be a day of wrath,
a day of distress and anguish,
a day of trouble and ruin,
a day of darkness and gloom,
a day of clouds and blackness,
16 a day of trumpet and battle cry
against the fortified cities
and against the corner towers.
17 I will bring distress on the people
and they will walk like blind men,
because they have sinned against the LORD.
Their blood will be poured out like dust
and their entrails like filth.
18 Neither their silver nor their gold
will be able to save them
on the day of the LORD’s wrath.
In the fire of his jealousy
the whole world will be consumed,
for he will make a sudden end
of all who live in the earth.”
THe above passage says it all to these Bajrangis and VHP people, read it and know how the Wrath of GOd will be
War against people of God…
Judges 1
Israel Fights the Remaining Canaanites
1 After the death of Joshua, the Israelites asked the LORD, “Who will be the first to go up and fight for us against the Canaanites?”
2 The LORD answered, “Judah is to go; I have given the land into their hands.”
3 Then the men of Judah said to the Simeonites their brothers, “Come up with us into the territory allotted to us, to fight against the Canaanites. We in turn will go with you into yours.” So the Simeonites went with them.
4 When Judah attacked, the LORD gave the Canaanites and Perizzites into their hands and they struck down ten thousand men at Bezek. 5 It was there that they found Adoni-Bezek and fought against him, putting to rout the Canaanites and Perizzites. 6 Adoni-Bezek fled, but they chased him and caught him, and cut off his thumbs and big toes.
7 Then Adoni-Bezek said, “Seventy kings with their thumbs and big toes cut off have picked up scraps under my table. Now God has paid me back for what I did to them.” They brought him to Jerusalem, and he died there.
8 The men of Judah attacked Jerusalem also and took it. They put the city to the sword and set it on fire.
Reason: You can know it, its a WAR and naturally people of God will win… DInt you see wars in Mahabharath and Ramayana??
Worshippers of Evil/God haters will be destroyed
16 You must destroy all the peoples the LORD your God gives over to you. Do not look on them with pity and do not serve their gods, for that will be a snare to you.
17 You may say to yourselves, “These nations are stronger than we are. How can we drive them out?” 18 But do not be afraid of them; remember well what the LORD your God did to Pharaoh and to all Egypt. 19 You saw with your own eyes the great trials, the miraculous signs and wonders, the mighty hand and outstretched arm, with which the LORD your God brought you out. The LORD your God will do the same to all the peoples you now fear. 20 Moreover, the LORD your God will send the hornet among them until even the survivors who hide from you have perished. 21 Do not be terrified by them, for the LORD your God, who is among you, is a great and awesome God. 22 The LORD your God will drive out those nations before you, little by little. You will not be allowed to eliminate them all at once, or the wild animals will multiply around you. 23 But the LORD your God will deliver them over to you, throwing them into great confusion until they are destroyed. 24 He will give their kings into your hand, and you will wipe out their names from under heaven. No one will be able to stand up against you; you will destroy them.
Reason: God created Man in His image and if they start worshipping evil, they will be destroyed. However, this was stopped after Christ had come because of His sacrifice..
Disabled will be made Holy(healed) by God..
16 The LORD said to Moses, 17 “Say to Aaron: ‘For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; 19 no man with a crippled foot or hand, 20 or who is hunchbacked or dwarfed, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles. 21 No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the offerings made to the LORD by fire. He has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God. 22 He may eat the most holy food of his God, as well as the holy food; 23 yet because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary. I am the LORD, who makes them holy. [a] ‘ ”
Reason: For one of the male descendants of Aaron to serve as a priest he had to be holy in the sense of being free from physical defects. He could not be lame, blind, hunchbacked or have a skin disease. A priest also was restricted in his mourning for the dead and as to whom he could marry. For the high priest the restrictions were even more exacting. There were also restrictions regarding who of a priest’s family might eat of the holy things offered at the tabernacle.—Leviticus, chapters 21 and 22.
Aaronic Priesthood. A lame person who was a descendant of Aaron could not serve in the priesthood, although he was allowed to eat from the things provided for the priesthood for their sustenance. (Le 21:16-23) Jehovah set a high standard of physical fitness for his priesthood, for these represented him at his sanctuary. (Le 21:17-23) So, too, Christ, the great High Priest, was “loyal, guileless, undefiled, separated from the sinners.”—Heb 7:26.
The temple arrangement and priesthood are no longer in operation on earth. If God wishes to set a certain standard, we have to respect it. I don’t believe that he was trying to make those with physical defects feel inferior.
God Kills the Curious(FALSE)
God kills the disobidient
1 Samuel 6:19-20
19 But God struck down some of the men of Beth Shemesh, putting seventy [a] of them to death because they had looked into the ark of the LORD. The people mourned because of the heavy blow the LORD had dealt them, 20 and the men of Beth Shemesh asked, “Who can stand in the presence of the LORD, this holy God? To whom will the ark go up from here?”
Why?? The ark of the LORD is holy and only the anointed person could go and worship the LORD as a mediator for the people(Which Christ is now doing) Hence the High priest was in fear when he went into the most holy place….
Ezekiel 32:5-7
5 I will spread your flesh on the mountains
and fill the valleys with your remains.
6 I will drench the land with your flowing blood
all the way to the mountains,
and the ravines will be filled with your flesh.
7 When I snuff you out, I will cover the heavens
and darken their stars;
I will cover the sun with a cloud,
and the moon will not give its light.
Reason: This is a Prophesy told about people who disobey God… Some believe its a prophesy on the World War 3
Women in Church
11A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15But women[a] will be saved[b] through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
Yes my dear friend, what Paul says is right in this context but the Bible never discriminates men and women… Remember that the women was cursed more by God as she was the first person to sin and also she tempted Adam to sin.. Also, woman in the church will only take away others concentration, thats why even men should wear proper clothes covering his entire body and the same goes to women in the Church.
Cost of Discipleship
Luke 14:26
26″If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.
God by no means says hate your family… But this context is different… If you need to follow Christ(What missionaries are doing) you need to leave everything including your properties and all worldly relationships and give up your life proclaiming the name of God..
The bible also says this
Exodus 20:12 – “Honor your father and your mother so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.” (NIV)
Exodus 21:15 – “Anyone who attacks his father or his mother must be put to death.”(NIV)
Proverbs 1:8 – “Listen, my son, to your father’s instruction and do not forsake your mother’s teaching.”(NIV)
1 Samuel 19:9-10
But an evil [a] spirit from the LORD came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with his spear in his hand. While David was playing the harp, 10 Saul tried to pin him to the wall with his spear, but David eluded him as Saul drove the spear into the wall. That night David made good his escape.
Did God send the evil spirit to posses Saul?? If it is God’s will to destroy all evil and no evil can stand in His sight because He is all good. Then the answer is no. An evil spirit is just that a spirit looking for a body to enter into and if it finds a house empty of God’s spirit then it can enter. God took His Spirit away from Saul So this gave the evil spirit an opportunity to enter the mind of Saul. Seeing is how He know longer was wearing the Mind of Christ( God) This is why in the last days when cloning becomes a part of the world is going to be a great day of evil because a cloned being has no spirit and this being then can be occupied by a demonic spirit.
Also its only written Evil Spirit from the LORD and not of the LORD… understand the difference dear buddy…
The next two are again regarding to Women being subordinate….
DID YOU FORGET ABOUT SATI?? YOU PEOPLE USED TO KILL THEM DINT YOU??
However I have anwsered to your question above already…
September 30th, 2008 at 6:46 am
@everyone
I have given answers to the misinterpretations of mr Sealion
Now pls dont tell
Brevity is the wit of soul like Deepak….
I responded to SeaLions incredible huge post…
September 30th, 2008 at 6:52 am
Mr SeaLion
Mind your language when you address an issue accross different people.
September 30th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Hi Deepak,
I have very good respect for you and have read throgh your articles in this blog.
My sincere advice is please don’t try your hand in too many issues.
Merely giving some twisted and logical (only understood by very few people, not completely) answers will not take you anywhere and definitely make you an island. None of the articles in this blog has some focus or convincing answers. Most of the times you are evasive or a fence sitter. Your answers show that you are tired and losing your energy.
Our rich Hinduism, replete with rich culture, tradition and rituals, has got powerful religious leaders. They can definitely give powerful and convicing answers. They know when and how to react with long term plans and strategies. Bajrang Dal has no vision and only filled with violent ideas.
Please join your hand with religious leaders, interact with them constantly and come out with long term and benevolent plans for the upliftment of Hindu Society.
We are all “Amratasya Putras”. Then why should we have caste system??? What role you can play now as a Saraswta Brahmin??? Just dont make this a slogan, show the way to implement and interpret properly.
Please take a lead in such burning issues and you can make wonders.
I really appreciate your effort but please take one burning issue, discuss with scholars and religious leaders which otherwise will make you think that your answers are right and final.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:55 am
@ India Rock,
Well, it is very difficult to convince the frogs in the well about the vast ocean. That is what I am trying to do. So sometimes, my answer may seem to be out of focus.
It is quite natural. Anyway, my magnum opus is underway. Do judge me by the book that I am bringing out.
As for the answers here, they are only stop gap. They are not meant to convince but to provoke more thinking among our youths who have been dumbed by the media.
September 30th, 2008 at 10:59 am
@ Bharat Shenoy, Mala Kamath, Rajeev Nair and Sangeeta Shenoy,
I don’t how many more fidayeen bomb blasts will it take for you to be convinced about your love for terrorists?
Anyway, I am an ordinary mortal. I believe in taking both eye for an eye, and a jaw for a tooth.
Best of luck in your lovely mission. As for me, I am a masculine Hindu who is best happy in giving a bloody nose to the terrorists.
September 30th, 2008 at 11:03 am
The Rajeev Nair dogma
Dogma: After reading your article about Osho, I thought you were a sensible person. You are being childish here.
Reality: That is your opinion.
Dogma: I saw in the home page that you were asking Karan Thapar to grow up. Do you think anybody who disagrees with you are below your intelligence?
Reality: Not at all. But if somebody is giving moronish replies, I have no compunctions to call him a moron.
September 30th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Finally, I will defend Bajrang Dal in my next article in a few days.
The pseudosecular media is trying to project Bajrang Dal alongside SIMI.
SIMI is anti-national. Bajrang Dal is patriotic. SIMI is aggressive and terrorist, Bajrang Dal is defensive and dharmic.
I think all Hindus should support Bajrang Dal if they are Hindus and not pseudosecular.
September 30th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Hi Deepak,
You come under the umbrella of RSS, but stay away from Bajarangis. I have personally seen how this same bajarang group indulge in hooliganism during Ganesh Festival procession and how violent they act. RSS has grown on good ideology and has got good foundation of Guruji and Hedgewar and it is a huge Banyan tree.
Bajrang Dal is a militant group without any ideology and constructive approach. They are like planton trees grown in marshy place.
You have got a talent but influenced by violent ideologies. Channelize in a proper way and certainly you will be wonderful leader one day.
September 30th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Reply from sangeetha shenoy
Deepak dogma
Dogma: I will oppose any bitch like you who has the temerity to abuse the Hindu warriors.
Hindu warriors or hindu HIJDAS ?
Warriors donot attack UN ARMED innocent hapless people rape women and burn their houses.
Deepak Kamat Dogma:
You said you are proud that you didnot study in christian institution
But your higher up i mean Chief minister yedyurappa’s son studied in St Joseph’s college. who is pseudo sec ular?. chief minister? or sangh parivar?
Dogma: I am a masculine Hindu who is best happy in giving a bloody nose to the terrorists.
Your masculinity can be judged by your attack on innocent people just because they profess other faith where as real terrorists keep on doing their jobs of planting bombs. Warriors?..my foot…! For these
atackers and rapists the apt word should be NAPUNSAKA DAL. Sounds better right?
September 30th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
i had to send by my home name because my id is blocked by deepak who claims freedom to comment in this blog.
sangeetha shenoy
September 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Rajiv Nair,
whoever opposes deepak kamat’s opinion are pseudom secularists or christians or muslims in different id or padre brainwashed who have peanut sized brain.
Hindus can never have independent view which is aginst barbarism narrow mindedness and hate propaganda according to him.
i donot know how small is his brain is but ego …looks like badly injured in some spat with christian neibour. Even hitler was kicked by a jew in his childhood. May be psychatrist would be of help. If mullar’s hospital does’nt admit him then nimhans is the way.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
@Deepak kamat
u said:
“Anyway, I am an ordinary mortal. I believe in taking both eye for an eye, and a jaw for a tooth.”
there is something for u from bible
MATTHEW 15:14
“they are blind leaders of the blind;
and when one blind man leads another,both fall into a ditch.”
this is what is going to happen to ur RSS, VHP,BAJRANGDAL.
almost in ur each blog u say iam fighting for hindutwa??? ask ur self man u r not fighting for hindutwa,u r fighting for ur ego!!!!
u r going to write book is it???
i have a name for ur book,write ur name and at the bottom write published by”NAPUNSAKA DAL” as rightly said by sangeeta shenoy.
@
I am a masculine Hindu who is best happy in giving a bloody nose to the terrorists.
‘kaunsa chakki ka aata kaata hai, bhai??? bisephs kitne he?? dont u feel shy to fight like kids??? i have often heard kids saying “mera muscles deka hai” like that.
‘what is the diffrence betwen u and terrorists,can u pls tell me???
actually u r not brain washed ,u r whitewashed .outside u look good but inside full of hatread. can u tell me u talk about so much hindutwa, then which of ur holy book say to kill others????
did u call christians terrorists??? arre!!! andhe, u and bajrangis doing social service a what???? FYI, people who kill innocent are called terrorists ,not the peaceful people. bachpan me sikaya nahin kya??? thats where u missed christain education!!!
somewhere u said , iam not married. i appreciate that buddy. atleast ur RSS thoughts saved one girl’s life.
i dont understand hw can u people live with such hatred???
@
“Well, it is very difficult to convince the frogs in the well about the vast ocean.”
can a dog convince a frog??? i dont think so!!! buddy if talk to a tamilian in bojpuri can he understand??? thats the diffrence between u and us. we talk about peace and love,u talk violence.
tell me onething,is it possible to have day and night and same time?? ofcourse not. so love and hatred can not live together.FYI, hatred can understand love, but once a person has love he will not understand violence.
@
“As for the answers here, they are only stop gap. They are not meant to convince but to provoke more thinking among our youths who have been dumbed by the media.”
In some of ur comments u said christians provoked hindus or so called bajrangis. as per u it was wrong right??? then how is it right when u provoke others?? were u a monkey before??? gulati bahut maartha he yaar tum!!!
why are u angry on media?? do u think everybody is like u?? u make all false accusations on others,when they show the actual thing it hurts you why???
some people dont practice what they preach.
i think u should change the name of RSS. make it RAUDI SEVA SANG. that suits u and all ur friends.
September 30th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
@
SEALION
arre maaamu phir aagaya tu!! beta ithna tension math le.
i have a good answer for ur comments. u know what?????
guess!!!!!
dimaag lagana maaamu!!!
answer is
same to you!!!!
arre dont scratch ur head man.
buddy when we love christ, whatever u say it dosent affect us,because we know the truth.
next time when u get tensed go to toilet and release some tension and then write ur comments okey beta!!!
if u twist words from bible can u change the truth??? the more you twist the more we will correct it and we get an opportunity to talk about our jesus christ. so go ahead, read bible whatever it is u read it to twist the words or not. those same words will twist ur tounge one day.
MARK 7:20-23
“it is what comes out of a person that makes him unclean.for from inside,from persons heart,come the evil ideas which lead him to do immoral things,to rob, kill, commit adultry,be greedy and to do all sort of things;deceit,indecency,jealousy,
slander, pride,and folly all these come from inside a person and makes him unclean”
JOHN 11:9-10
“whoever walks in broad daylight doesnt stumble,for he sees the light of this world.but if he walks during night he stumbles,because he has not light”
did u understand something????
no!! dimaag me goosa bara hua he tho kaise samjega??????
whatever u wrote did u learn from ur parents or ur so called hinduism????
arre maamoo ek baat bata-
yeh tumhari aadat hai kya,tum bachpan se aisa he????
chill man!!!!!!
September 30th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
@ Deepak kamat
“SIMI is anti-national. Bajrang Dal is patriotic. SIMI is aggressive and terrorist, Bajrang Dal is defensive and dharmic.”
buddy do you know the meaning of patriotic and dharmic????
can you please sincerely write the meaning of above words in ur next comment.
its not for me ,let everbody know which dictionary you use!!!
and pls write the name of the dictionary too.
SIMI is aggressive!!!! and bajrangdal is defensive??? really
dont watch too much cricket man,that defensive word suits cricket not u and bajrangis.
did u kill so many innocent in orrissa in ur defence????
as per i know defence is only when someone attacks you,do you people defend by attacking others??? FYI, killing is satanic not dharmic.
if u defend by killing and raping innocent ,then its our birth right to kill ur parents and rape ur sisters isnt it??? u have done enough violence for which we can defend. am i wrong?????
i thought u r educated.if a educated person is like u then i feel happy for those people who still have not seen school.
just tell me the diffrence between u and an animal???? i think animals are better than you because they attack only when they have been attacked. atleast god has given them some brain to think. but you have sold ur brain to so called hindutwa.
then its better to live with animals than living with humans like you isnt it???
anyway write the meanings of those 2 words.
waiting for ur comments.
September 30th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Dear Rayan, pls let the form know, that which school you did your schooling from ?
ha ha
You are much inspired by movies it seems….mamu and all that scrap that you have used …..ye auron pe kichad uchhalana kahan se sikha hai ?
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* Talking about Hindus and Hindu appeasement is dangerous and Communal; Talking about Muslims and Islam is Secular;
* BJP freeing 3 terrorists to save Indian hostages was Shameful; Freeing 4 militants to save the life of the daughter of a minister [Rubina Sayed] was a Natural Political dilemma;
* Attack on Parliament was the result of BJP ineptitude; Not hanging Afzal Guru,the mastermind despite Supreme Court orders is due to Humanity and Political dilemma;
* BJP questioning any religion is communal; Congress questioning Lord Rama existence was simply a Clerical Error.
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Recent terrorist attacks have been proved to have direct links with SIMI.
Have you ever heard such things about any hindu org like Bajrang dal.
Shame on you, you call yourself Indian and are praising anti Indian…
I think your relegion have some different so called “dictionaries”.
October 1st, 2008 at 1:55 am
@ All pseudosecularists in this site (I won’t name them. They are dime a dozen).
I will continue to support Bajrang Dal as long as you continue to support Jehadi/Evangelical/Maoist/Capitalist terrorism in the guise of human rights and pseudosecularism.
October 1st, 2008 at 1:57 am
@ All,
I have never blocked anybody in this site. I don’t believe in censoreship.
In fact, the more I am criticised, the better it is for my movement.
All great ideas pass through three stages — Riddicule, Opposition and finally acceptance. Hindu internationalism is passing through the first two.
October 1st, 2008 at 2:20 am
SANGEETHA SHENOY
Reply
Deepak dogma:
SIMI is anti-national. Bajrang Dal is patriotic. SIMI is aggressive and terrorist, Bajrang Dal is defensive and dharmic.”
Reality:
SIMI is terrorist organization indeed because it attacks unsuspecting people all in the name of religion. Bhajrangdal is even worst a terrrorist because it not only attacks helpless innocent people in the name of religion but also is sponsered by BJP governments.(Not only money power but also police protectin and all possible help to the terrorists.) It is even worst as it rapes women too. They are misusing veer hanuman’s name for vicious plans. Who will speak about the insults they are causing hanuman? Did hanuman rape women?.Gujarat and orissa are examples of these rapists who should be thrown out or hanged like SIMI terrorists.
Deepak kamat dogma
SIMI is aggressive!!!! and bajrangdal is defensive??
With this statement Deepak wants to undermine peoples’ intelligence. Deepak wants to prove sun is moon and wants people to believe it too. Vicious plans of terror of bhajrangdal which is based on aggression and violence (directed only against un- armed innocent people who donot retaliate) is not naive to anyone .
Our country luckily does’nt have thse napunsakas as soldiers or our country’s defense would be any for one’s guess because these would show their legs to their bum if they see armed enemy country.(they can only attack innocent un-armed and non-retaliating people).
These hijda community is shraap for our hinduism which is like cancer which would eliminate it if we donot cut it and uproot it with the roots along with all its admirers and perpetrators.
October 1st, 2008 at 2:35 am
Deepak kamat Dogma:
All great ideas pass through three stages — Riddicule, Opposition and finally acceptance. Hindu internationalism is passing through the first two.
Reality:
It is indeed mockery of peoples’ intelligence indeed. Just like you may be SIMI and other terrorist organizations may be day-dreaming that opposition to them is just 1st and second phase. If it is true then it is no shock that u end up preaching in a mosque or conducting newlife speech. Your own logic.
October 1st, 2008 at 2:59 am
Deepak Kamat
Today’s news paper the Hindu..
http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/01/stories/2008100161861400.htm
This shows the level of degradation of these fundamentalist fools who claim conversion done by missionaries is forciblle.
Cancer of hinduism is not conversion but these bhajrangdal,rss and sangh parivar who insult our religion by taking hinduism and hanuman’s name for their dirty games.
I agree with you sangeetha shenoy, rajiv nair, mala kamat that these are not desh bhakts but kaayars who donot have guts to attack armed pakistan by joing military but take pride in raping nuns,killing priests, beating up minority communities and burning their houses. They say that this is hinduism.
October 1st, 2008 at 3:05 am
Deepak,
You are misunderstanding most of your criticizers here. You are too deep into your own ideas of right & wrong to see the other side. Most people here are not anti-Hindu.
Atleast I am not a supporter of Islamic terrorism or senseless Christian proselytizing. I am myself a critic of Islamic violence (both current and past), and have have been at the receiving end of more vulgar words from Muslims than that of SeaLion here.
The problem of Islamic fanaticism & terrorism is a world wide problem today. There is nothing specifically anti-Hindu in this. The Islamic fanatic mindset is very similar to what VHP/BD and even you shows. Fight against anybody who disagrees with you.
You speak about Masculine Hinduism. Its a good thing to be courageous and defend yourself. But when & against whom?
We could have appreciated your masculinity and courage if you were showing it in Kashmir when Kashmiri Pandits are butchered and chased away in bulk. We could have appreciated your courage if you identified the ones who set Godhra train on fire and then dealt with them.
Where was masculine Hinduism when temples were destroyed by Islamic invaders?
What you people are doing is something else. To hide your impotence in genuine situations (both present & past), you are showing your strength among innocents. Not to speak about the political motives.
Its not masculinity but foolishness, shame and barbarism to do things like:
1) Inciting ignorant tribals to violence against unarmed nuns and priest.
2) Gangraping unarmed innocent Muslim women just because some other Muslims set Godhra train on fire.
3) Spreading lies against other communities and religions.
4) Organizing planned voilence at mass levels against selected communities.
5) Selectively pointing out Historic incidents to show other communities as enemies.
6) Calling anybody who disagrees with you as foolish and anti-Hindu.
7) Claiming things like Taj Mahal was build by Hindus (Tejo Mahalya), theory of relativity, speed of light, etc. are in Vedas.
The kind of Hinduism you are envisaging is a Taliban like Hinduism, wherein you expect everyone else to agree and follow your concept of right & wrong. And you try to show your masculinity against anybody who disagrees. And most shamefully, the masculinity comes out only when the other side is far weaker.
October 1st, 2008 at 3:24 am
How can you shamelessly support comments of SeaLion, like:
-> Kill all Christian/Muslims
-> Throw Christians & Muslims out of India.
A couple of weeks ago I was seeing a news item about one Major Joby Mathew killed by terrorists in Kashmir. How he lead his group against terrorists after getting wounded and sacrificed his life for the country.
A lot of Christian & Muslim (along with Hindus &Sikhs) have fought and died for our country. When VHP/BD hooligans are showing their masculinity against innocent women, members of groups you hate have been dying for your sake. When you people where doing circus wearing shorts, atleast a few of those who hate were dying for you. They never died for Christians/ Muslims alone but for the large India which is made up of Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Sikhs and many more groups.
Do you expect sensible Hindus to support this kind of nonsense?
October 1st, 2008 at 7:11 am
@ hindustani
“Dear Rayan, pls let the form know, that which school you did your schooling from ?”
You are much inspired by movies it seems….mamu and all that scrap that you have used …..ye auron pe kichad uchhalana kahan se sikha hai ?
Dont worry about my schooling, i have studided in renowed school/college etc.i dont want to prove it okey????
calling somebody a maamoo is kichad is it???? then ur chaddi dost sealion is reciting shlokas a what???? did i use any bad words anywhere???? maamoo ko maamoo nahin kahega tho,kya kahega????
FYI, dusro pe kichad uchalna meine tum jaise hidustani se sikha hai, tumhe koi problem he kya????
when u show fingers to others first remember other fingers are pointing at you.are you impressed by sealion and his abuses????? you ask about my schooling right?? did your school taught u to abuse others. or u r also anpad.
yes iam impressed by lots of hindi movies, do u have any problem??? then apni poonch andar daalke ghar pe bait, ya sealion ka chela banja.shayad aage koi fayda hoga.
wash ur plate first, others know hw to wash theirs okey!!!
samajgaye circuit?????
October 1st, 2008 at 8:28 am
Is this masculine Hinduism or barbarism?
Nun Gangraped in Orissa
October 1st, 2008 at 9:06 am
@ Rajeev Nair:
1. First, I am glad that you are a Hindu. Great. Be proud of our common heritage, Sanatan dharma. Sanatan dharma would be there as long as its followers are there. Bharatvarsha would be there as long as followers of sanatan dharma are there. This is what Swami Vivekananda said.
2. You said, Sangh parivar hates those, who don’t go by there saying. To me, no sane person would agree with your opinion. You are simply parroting what sangh-haters, hindu-haters writes and speaks. But again, thats your opinion.
3. You talked about hate, but I don’t see any of your messages devoid of hate. Is it, your hate means love, and other opinions you call hate? When logic and reasoning takes backseat, hates becomes the only art of expression. If speaking truth is hate, then one have to stop speaking truth.
4. You may have different opinions than mine or others. Let we respect opinions. We Hindus fight among ourselves and enemys rule us. Do you find this among other religious communities? No.
Christian missionaries destroyed culture after culture and doing in India today, but not a single christian criticised their fellow followers. So as muslims, they are united when their community issues and interests are involved.
Why we Hindus, instead of united voice, we start fighting among ourselves? It is easy to target Hindus, as they are soft and polite. If someone speaks out truth, hundreds will scold him declaring him communal, fascist, nazist, and whats not. Why not have guts to fight against barbaric Jihadi terrorists, who carrying out serial blasts and chrisrtian missinary terrorists, who unleased an open war on Hindus? Oh, muslims are hard, they will behead me or my childrens. And chrsitian missioanries, I will not talk. My childrens study in chrsitian missioanry schools or I have other interests.
At no point in time, there was more than 15000-20000 English men in Bharatvarsha [from Burma to Afghan border and Sri Lanka to Tibet (Tibet was British India protectorate)] in their long 190 years rule. How they ruled such a vast geography and people? Simply due to the divisions among Hindus, we allowed them to rule than uniting ourselves. Same thing during muslim rule, a section of Hindus worked under them as sub-ordinate power and collaborators.
5. Why not you analyse the cause of rise of Hindu nationalism and its different organizations? Look back, what Gandhiji did to the nation after taking over the reign of INC. Very first act he did, started Khilafat movement. Why? How does Turkish Khalipha had to do with India’s freedom movement? List goes on.
Then partion of the Bharat, 22% people got about 30% landmass called Islamic Pakistan. There were about 30% Hindus in two part Pakistan. They were ethnically cleansed. Today, less than 1% Hindus in Islamic Pakistan and living as third class human beings, and less than 6% in Islamic Bangladesh.
At time of independence, there was not a single area in NE India which was christian majority. Now, three states with christian majority and no Secualrism applies there. Can you make one Hindu as CM in Nagaland, Meghalaya, and Mizoram? But, in hindu predominant Andhra Pradesh (where less than 1% christian) a chrsitian Samual Reddy rule the Hindus. If Hindus speak out this, then they are hate-mongerers. If they silently accept such pervert sickularism, they are nice secular good hindus.
6. I don’t wish to go further. Please respect other Hindus way of doing things, even that dose not go with your ideology. If you can’t tolerate other Hindus way, why shall others care your way? Please do what good you can do, and let others do what they can do. Doing is important, not merely arguments.
Bharat’s freedom movement was carried out by different ideological groups and no one’s contribution is less significant than others. Gandhiji is as important as Netaji as Khudiram as Bhagat Singh as others.
Dharma rakshati rakshitah (Dharma protects those, who protect dharma).
October 1st, 2008 at 9:38 am
Dear Bharat,
Gandhi may have his faults. I too don’t appreciate his Muslim appeasement. But at any rate he was a greater person than most of us here. We should not forget that without Gandhi and other eminent leaders like Bose, Patel, Nehru, etc. there would not have been a single India. What we know as India would have be atleast a dozen different countries.
Please tell me on what is the great thing that VHP & BD is doing with the silent support of BJP & RSS?
I just pasted a link on the Gang rape of a nun in Orissa. Add to that the many other atrocities in Gujarat and Orissa done in the name of Hinduism.
Can you sincerely stand on a public platform and claim these as your achievements/milestones in defense of Hinduism?
Please don’t say that VHP & BD are innocent in these things. Why was VHP repeatedly blaming the murder of the Swami on Christians? Now it turns out that it was done by Maoists. Can VHP/BD/Deepak/YOU undo the damage being done?
Most of the activities of VPH & BD cannot be considered as “different way of doing things” or “another opinion”. Its nothing more than human rights violation against the law of the land.
Its impossible to accept hooliganism as other Hindu’s way of doing things. For such barbarity is no way related to Hinduism. And if thats Hinduism, I won’t call myself a Hindu anymore.
Can you give me one answer: Why do we see this valiant defense of Hinduism only against unarmed people who can’t retaliate? Why don’t VHP & BD gangs organize defense for Kashmiri Pandits or the suffering Hindus in Bangladesh?
My friend, this is not defense of Hinduism, but slow destruction of Hinduism. The Muslims were boasting about their fighting spirit for many years, now almost every Muslim is ashamed of Islamic terrorism, and they are trying to prove the terrorists are not Muslims!
Do you want Hindus to be ashamed in this manner?
October 1st, 2008 at 9:55 am
Did YSR become chiefminister of AP because he is Christian?
Did Kalam become President because he is Muslim?
NO.
The ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Pakistan & Bangladesh is a fact. Look in any Muslim dominated country you will find this kind of a behavior. Do you want Hindus to emulate this Muslim fanaticism?
Are you not bothered about the long term impact on Hindus and Hinduism because of such violence by fanatics calling themselves defenders of Hinduism?
We Hindus should speak out and protest against any injustice against us. But organized violence against innocent & unarmed people is not at all allowable.
And if at all you believe 1% in Karma, the evil we do will comeback to us (as individuals or as a group) some day or the other.
October 1st, 2008 at 12:22 pm
You do realize that… That book was written by ex-hindu….
Being myself a ex-hindu feel every word in the that book is true…
October 1st, 2008 at 4:32 pm
@Rajeev Nair:
>You have pasted a link on the Gang rape of a nun in Orissa.
1. Now, please paste a link of brutal barbaric killing pictures of 84 years old Swamiji and his 5 deciples (which comprises two women deciples) by the blood-thirsty christian missionary gangs! Be impartial, we will wait to see the link!
2. To us most Hindus (if not all) and many other people, Swamiji was killed by the christian missionary gangs. Swamji was a hindrance in their Soul harvesting business. He was attacked and injured by the missionaries in 2007. No amount of concocted story will work. Could you please provide evidence that Swamiji was killed by the Maoists? We shall approach the Orissa govt and you have to provide evidence before Orissa Investigating team. Tell us, if you are ready to offer evidence?
> The ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Pakistan & Bangladesh is a fact. Look in any Muslim dominated country you will find this kind of a behavior. Do you want Hindus to emulate this Muslim fanaticism?
3. No, Hindus should offer their head before muslims to cut and then say Thank you for beheading us. We now achieved Moksha/Nirvana. Yes, Gandhiji was asking Hindus the same thing. Stating wrongs of Gandhji is not denigration of his good work. Good work will remain good, and bad remain bad. Bad should not white-washed only deceive ourselves. I suppose, Gandhji didn’t asked people before his death that, you should not talk my wrong-doings. Did he?
4. Note, Hindus have every right to defend their people, their houses, their land. No, no, Hindus should run away from their house and give away their properties to attackers and invadors, to remain secular good nice Hindus.
5. The fact is that, Bharatvarsha and Sanatan dharma survived due to Rajput and other Khsatriya (no caste means) warriors bravery and sacrifice. And not due to arm-chair sickular lecturers. Islamic invadors could not break the barriers in 500 years (from 7th to 12 century). One thing Shri Nair, your sickular brothers would not come forward if you or your family in trouble. Those Hindus you call fascists, communal, they are the hindus will save your family, at cost of their own life. This is only truth.
6. Veer bhogya vasundhara, only braves can enjoy the fruits of the earth. Five lakhs Kashmiri Hindus (they called themselves pandits) had to run away from Jihadi butchering, as they are not capable to fight. They lived thiusands years under Dogara and Rajputs protection. Had there been five lakhs Dogras or Sikhs, they would not have run away.
7. Hindus must practice Tit-for-tat policy. That is the only realistic way to protect Bharat and Sanatan dharma. And it is not only Hindus, every society (Americans, Russians, Japanese, Chinese, Europeans, etc) practice this. Why not?
8. Don’t worry about Sanatan dharma. It is Sanatan, no beginning, no end. It is Eternal. It survived 1000 years onslaught from all sorts of invadors. It will survive always, if not due to us, by its own strength.
9. As Swami Vivekananda said, “Have faith in yourself, you will do miracles.” So, have faith in yourself. What you belive what you get. Buddha said, “what you think what you become.”
October 1st, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Sangeeta Shenoy’s pseudosecular dogma
Dogma: It is indeed mockery of peoples’ intelligence indeed.
Reality: It only proves that you are taken in by the media propaganda hook, line and sinker.
Dogma: Just like you may be SIMI and other terrorist organizations may be day-dreaming that opposition to them is just 1st and second phase.
Reality: Read the Koran. The aim of Islam is Dar-Ul-Islam where nobody exists but Islam. So every non-Muslim should be either killed or converted.
Dogma: If it is true then it is no shock that u end up preaching in a mosque or conducting newlife speech. Your own logic.
Reality: It only proves that you know nothing about Hinduism. Read the Vedas and Upanishads before speaking to me.
Finally, my advice to Sangeeta Shenoy.
Grow up, silly girl.
Hinduism is not an excluvist cult like Islam and Christianity. It is a way of life which celebrates diversity.
October 1st, 2008 at 11:52 pm
@ Rajeev Nair,
I wonder how naive you can be.
Rape of Christian nuns is not Masculine Hinduism.
It is pure pseudosecular Indian media propaganda. Do you expect me to be so naive to believe the Indian media?
October 1st, 2008 at 11:54 pm
@ All,
Don’t quote newspaper reports in this site. I don’t beleive in pseudosecular media propaganda.
If media were honest, there would have been no need for me to open this site and write this book.
In fact, the next book that I am writing is about Exposing Indian Media.
October 1st, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Vulgar dogma by Kavita.
Dogma: whoever opposes deepak kamat’s opinion are pseudom secularists or christians or muslims in different id or padre brainwashed who have peanut sized brain.
Reality: I can’t help it if that is the fact.
Dogma: Hindus can never have independent view which is aginst barbarism narrow mindedness and hate propaganda according to him.
Reality: Hinduism is a celebration of diversity. Can you show me a single line in my articles where I have promoted hate?
Dogma: i donot know how small is his brain is but ego …looks like badly injured in some spat with christian neibour.
Reality: That is reflected in your frustration when you said Bajrang Dal is naupansak. I think you are in the habit of lifting Padre’s frock and sucking his cock.
Dogma: Even hitler was kicked by a jew in his childhood. May be psychatrist would be of help.
Reality: Standard pseudosecular line. Comparing HIndus to Hitler. Hitler was a Christian.
Dogma: If mullar’s hospital does’nt admit him then nimhans is the way.
Reality: When you can’t argue, you abuse, is it not?