DENIGRATION OF HINDU GODS IS THE REAL REASON FOR ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS IN MANGALORE
The Following are the list of abuses from one such book – Satya Darshini – distributed by the missionaries of New Life. This book is in Kannada and the translation of the abusive passage is as follows.
· Urvashi – the daughter of Narayana– is a prostitute. Vashitha is the son of this prostitute. He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48)
· When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a need for us to liberate his misled followers. (page 50)
· It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita. Since Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were themselves the victims of lust, it is a sin to consider them as Gods. (page 39)
· When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by lust and anger, how can they liberate others. Their projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39).
· When Vishnu asked Brahma to commit a sin, he immediately did so. How can such a “evil brahma” be a Creator of this Universe? How is it possible for both the sinner and the entity which provoked the sin to be gods? (page 39)
· God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are worshipping False Gods that believe in the pleasures of illicit ‘Vyabichari’ relationships. (Page 39).
2. All the 16 incidents that took place were not attack on Churches. In fact, unauthorized prayer halls were attacked where the blasphemous pamphlets were distributed and aggressive proselytisation was taking place. These 16 incidents were not localized but took place across three districts of Mangalore, Udupi and Chikmagalur.
3. The only place where attacks took place apart from New Life Prayer Halls was at a small prayer hall in the premises of Milagres Church in Mangalore, where some miscreants had damaged a Jesus idol. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the attack at this place. Following this incident, a Christian mob gathered and the situation went out of control as the mob started pelting stones and disrupting traffic. The police was forced to intervene and this resulted in unsavoury violence.
4. Since the past two days, it is not Hindu-Christian clashes that are taking place. In fact, it is more appropriate to call it”Christian-Police” clashes since the Christians holed up in Churches have engaged themselves in pelting of stones and disruption of traffic. The Police were forced to enter the Church to clear the mob and they found arms inside the Church.
5. Incidents of Stabbing were reported in around four or five places across Mangalore district. In fact, an activist belonging to Shri Ram Sena was stabbed which led to a bandh call by Shri Ram Sena – a Hindu outfit that is not connected to Sangh Parivar.
6. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the desecration of Jesus idol at the prayer hall adjacent to the Milagres Church in Mangalore. They have also clarified that they are not against the Catholic faith and the Churches. However, they have clarified that the public outcry would continue as long as illicit conversion activities and blasphemy of Hindu gods take place.
7. Even the Kandhmahal murder — which involved the killing of Hindu monk Swami Lakshmananda by missionaries – seems to have caste a shadow on this incident since the general public seems to have seen through Christian aggression.
8. It may be recalled that there was a public outcry against illegal prayer halls in Davanagere district last week. In that case, the administration had closed the unauthorized prayer halls that were mushrooming in the region.
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October 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 am
More pseudosecular dogmas from Kavita
Dogma: Bhajrangdal is even worst a terrrorist because it not only attacks helpless innocent people in the name of religion but also is sponsered by BJP governments.
Reality: Standard lift from pseudosecular propaganda. Hinduism is not exclusivist cult like Islam. HInduism is a celebration of divinity. Bajrangis don’t attack. They only defend. Hail Bajrang Dal. Now don’t compare me to Christian Hitler.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:18 am
Finally, a request to Kavita aka Sangeeta Shenoy,
I know that you watch a lot of TV (especially CNN-IBN and NDTV). I know both these idiots (Prannoy Roy and Rajdeep Sardesai). Rajdeep Sardesai is amchi Saraswat Brahmin. Both are crooked pseudosecularists.
So please don’t waste my time with your pseudosecular propaganda sourced from NDTV and CNN-IBN. I have better work to do.
Because my next book is on exposing Indian Media.
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:21 am
Pseudosecular dogmas from Sanjeeta aka Kavita,
Dogma: Bhajrangdal is even worst a terrrorist because it not only attacks helpless innocent people in the name of religion but also is sponsered by BJP governments.(Not only money power but also police protectin and all possible help to the terrorists.)
Reality: Direct lift from Teesta’ Setalvad’s anti-Hindu pro-Jehadi slogan. it is a proven fact that all terrorists are Muslims and all Hindus are philosophers. Tell me, how many persons have been killed in Hindu attacks (the answer is 0). How many ahve been killed in Islamic attacks (the answer run into crores).
Dogma: It is even worst as it rapes women too.
Reality: Another pseudosecular dogma. Bajrang Dal has saved number of naive Hindu girls from the conversion trap.
Dogma: They are misusing veer hanuman’s name for vicious plans.
Reality: Bajrang Dal inspiration is Hanuman who protected Sita and burnt Lanka. Hanuman protects the virtuous from the wicked. This is what Bajrang Dal does.
Dogma: Who will speak about the insults they are causing hanuman?
Did hanuman rape women?.Gujarat and orissa are examples of these rapists who should be thrown out or hanged like SIMI terrorists.
Reality: Why don’t you shriek in NDTV like Teesta Setalvad? This is not the platform for pseudosecularists like you.
Dogma: With this statement Deepak wants to undermine peoples’ intelligence. Deepak wants to prove sun is moon and wants people to believe it too.
Reality: That is what the pseudosecular media does all the time. Decondition yourself from the pseudosecular dogma.
Dogma: Vicious plans of terror of bhajrangdal which is based on aggression and violence (directed only against un- armed innocent people who donot retaliate) is not naive to anyone .
Reality: Only the naive believe the pseudosecular propaganda. While it is crystal clear that the world suffered only from Islamic/Christian/Communist and Capitlist terror. Even Swami Vivekananda said that peace reigned until Islam brought a trail of blood and terror in its wake. Now should I believe Sangeeta or Swami Vivekananda?
Dogma: Our country luckily does’nt have thse napunsakas as soldiers or our country’s defense would be any for one’s guess because these would show their legs to their bum if they see armed enemy country.(they can only attack innocent un-armed and non-retaliating people).
Reality: Nice imagination. Unfortunately, it is not true.
Dogma: These hijda community is shraap for our hinduism which is like cancer which would eliminate it if we donot cut it and uproot it with the roots along with all its admirers and perpetrators.
Reality: Now you are showing symptoms of fascism.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:30 am
The REAL deepak kamat behind the mask
Dogma:He says” I think you are in the habit of lifting Padre’s frock and sucking his cock”
This is his answer to my saying “napunsaks” for sangh parivar’s armed attacks on un-armed innocent people and rapes of nuns.
Now one can really come to know
the real YOU Deepak Kamat.
You are not what you claim you are.
This also
shows your mental state.
You need pity as every one
can guess the real reason for you of
not marrying. It is not definetly
hanuman Bhakti as claimed
by you. Right?
Veer hanuman was never a rapist, nor kaayar who would attack un-armed innocent people. He was’nt napunsak like you either. He did fight ravan ’s army and not the innocent lankans. You know the difference but to admit it you require guts which you lack and that is why i named you “HEDI”
Now let us examine the reason for you to utter the words you said about a woman. Didn’t your mother object you when you were wrong?. Do you call her “cock sucking lady” if she opposed you?. The very thought shows the your deep mind. May be you dream of sucking padre’s cocks as you maynot find any interest in women and may be the frustration is the result of that. Or may be you have had tried with a padre or a mullahs and they kicked you out.( Just like Hitler who carried kick of a jew and developed hatred).
Or another reason may be that
you yourself have that habit of lifing the khaki chaddi and doing the same thing to bhajrangis
and to cover up your problem
you are creating all this hatred.
But please stop taking shelter in VEER HANUMAN for your weakness .
Veer hanuman is Not napunsak like you.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:40 am
Deepak Kamat is hiding his personal weekness and to cover up he has taken up hate campaign.
Hindu brothers and sisters wake up before our religion gets wiped away completely by these enimies of hinduism who have no “bhakti” and emit dadagiri.
Deepak kamat Dogma:
You claim that you are not product of christian education.
Are you aware Sri Sri Ravi
Shankar of the Art of Living fame and Veerendra Heggade of Dharamastala are products of St Joseph’s college bangalore?
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:21 am
@ Sangeeta Shenoy (I doubt whether it is her real name because girls in my community are dignified)
I told you that I am a masculine Hindu who believes in taking two eye for an eye. You started it first by calling Bajrangis Impotent, so I replied with double vegenance that you are a padre cock-sucker.
Two eye for an eye. A jaw for a tooth. That is the official policy of masculine Hinduism.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:28 am
The Sangeeta Shenoy dogma
Dogma: Deepak Kamat is hiding his personal weekness
Reality: Can you pray tell me what my personal weakness is? Have you ever seen me till date?
Dogma: and to cover up he has taken up hate campaign.
Reality: There is no hate campaign from my side. I am only stopping the hate campaign directed by the pseudosecular brigade which is anti-Hindu and is aimed towards appeasing Muslims/Christians/left and capitalists.
Dogma: Hindu brothers and sisters wake up before our religion gets wiped away completely by these enimies of hinduism who have no “bhakti” and emit dadagiri.
Reality: So Sangeeta wants people to pray in Temples while Jehadis attack us with bombs. grow up, silly girl.
Dogma: You claim that you are not product of christian education.
Reality: No claims. it is a reality.
Dogma: Are you aware Sri Sri Ravi
Shankar of the Art of Living fame and Veerendra Heggade of Dharamastala are products of St Joseph’s college bangalore?
Reality: If they were, so what?
BTW, how much have the padres paid you for the pro-church propaganda?
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:34 am
An advice to Sangeeta Shenoy,
If you have any intellectual honesty left, please read two books before talking to me:
1. Why I am not a Christian? by Bertrand Russell.
2. Harvesting our Souls? by Arun Shourie.
You are really in the dark. You have internalised the padre poison wholesale.
Grow up.
October 2nd, 2008 at 2:50 pm
@rayan…
you displayed it all !! I would not like to fight with a pig, coz while you are trying to coming out of it, they actually enjoy
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:16 pm
@hindustani
there are lots of dogs in Deepaks comapny.u can join them.after all, all dogs go back to their on omit.
FYI,i also dont fight with hizdas!!!!
dont call urself as hindustani. change it to hizdistani it suits you.
have a nice time
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:38 pm
we should punished all Muslim {urine tube scientist ] , Christians { bread business criminal } and our Hindu black sheep{foolish}
the above 2 community h i v for our innocent hindu
below categories virus for hindu people and himself
medication is encounter encounter encounter
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
@ Deepak kamat
“I know that you watch a lot of TV (especially CNN-IBN and NDTV). I know both these idiots (Prannoy Roy and Rajdeep Sardesai). Rajdeep Sardesai is amchi Saraswat Brahmin. Both are crooked pseudosecularists.”
as per deepak all media persons are writting or showing false stories. only deepak is raja satya harishchandra. he only bring out truth, rest all are fools.
do you think 2% christians pay them bribe to show those false stories???
i can well understand ur anger on CNN,IBN,NDTV etc.
truth always hurts u know!!!!
have u done PHD hinduism????
no doubt u must have done ,only PHD guys can write such comments.do u know whats PHD is???
Permanent
Head
Damage
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:06 am
@ Rayan,
Remember, 2 percent Christians in India are backed by the global Police US and global goon Vatican. That makes the difference.
October 3rd, 2008 at 9:44 am
Deepak,
If the USA was so much concerned about Christianity, our Swamis (both the genuine and fraud) would not have had the chance to set their foot on US soil.
Why don’t we Swamis and their Ashrams in a rich country like Saudi Arabia or UAE?
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Deepak,
A lot has been said on this blog and it has made for some interesting late night reading. There are too many things I find unpalatable to talk about all at once. Let me start by questioning the christian propogandidsts on this blog about them propogating with a vengeance their fellow christians’ interpretations of our ancient Hindu scriptures. Just by spouting the same nonsense over and over again on this blog, no right-minded person is going to get indoctrinated into the christian way of distorting the truth. Jesus in the Vedas?? Are these guys for real? Elsewhere, on another blog, I read that according to our Puranas, the other prophet, Mohammad, is apparently what we believe the Kalki avtar to be!
Think about it-it is a well known fact that Christianity is a repackaged religion which freely lifted and plagiarised from existing great religions. The whole spin given to the wonders worked by Moses in the Old Testament qua the Pharoah is illustrative of what these parasites did to the ancient religion of Egypt and have been trying since the unfortunate birth of their cult to do to the only truly great and ancient religion still surviving today-Hinduism. So I ask you this-rather than the Vedas glorifying Jesus, is it not that the bible has freely copied from other religions to paint a picture of a man it believed would be palatable to ignorant people and then forge ahead in the belief that a lie, if spoken often enough, starts to appear to be the truth to the misguided and the imbeciles and the weaklings?
And while we are at it, why target only the Catholics? WHat do you suppose the orthodox christians (including the Syro-Malabar breed in India) is up to? A lot of rubbish is spoken about how these people have still kept their traditions intact and are following the Hindu customs of mangalsutra and many more. It was nothing but a bitter pill that was sugar-coated. The agenda of the missionaries was to convert people by hook or crook, and that they achieved by presenting christianity and Jesus in a form that was more palatable to the native Indian and to fool him or her into conversion. It is that legacy which still continues. Little wonder then that in orthodox churches in Kerala, you find hymns in praise of Jesus being sung in the metre in which the Sama Veda is chanted. Little wonder that in these churches you find Jesus holding a ‘vel’, much like the one held by our deva Muruga with the vibhuti and kumkum to boot!
On the way to Pondicherry recently, I came across a line of people, 5-6 kilometers long, walking along the road all dressed in saffron. It appeared to be a pilgrimage procession to some temple. When I came to the head of the procession, the destination was a temple all right-the ‘temple’ of Mary and Jesus (not a church mind you). Upon closer inspection, I found that a few men were standing at the entrance of the church dressed in the same saffron robes, wearing a rudraksh mala, and at the end of the mala, there dangled an unholy cross! I was aghast and had to go back and ask some of these dreary pilgrims if they knew where they were going. Their response – Mariamman koil (the temple of Mariamman, one of the popular devi deities in Tamil Nadu). Mariamman… Mary temple…am I the only one who sees what an eyewash this is? I tried to find out more but was shooed away by the burly peace-loving servile volunteers at the entrance bedecked in saffron and rudraksh malas, who obviously have no intention other than to serve the poor and help the needy by hoodwinking them and telling them Mary is Mariamman in a westernised avtar! Am I the only one or one of the few Hindus who finds this objectionable? These christian parasites have methodically wiped out all forms of diversity in the past centuries. In the words of the Pope, first Europe, then the Americas, and now Asia. So what is the answer to this evil? Grin and bear it? Certainly not. Rise up in arms and defend ourselves and what us ours? Definitely, emphatically, a resounding YES! So how does one do that? Do we need a Bajrand Dal or a VHP or an RSS today? YES YES YES! If not for anything else, at least to shock the slumbering hindus into activity, to see what is really happening to us and what will most certainly be if nothing is done to stop this. It cannot be only the Bajrang Dal/VHP or the RSS though. Each Hindu family probably needs its own activist. Better yet, each Hindu could be an activist. And to end with a comment on what has sparked this heated and impassioned debate-what happened in Orissa was and is not persecution or an attack. It is a response and a reaction to the waves of persecution and attacks that have been carried out on Hindus and Hinduism for aeons and still continue. Was it right or wrong? That is beyond the point. Every thing has a breaking point, a point of no return. Even if every single Hindu does not feel the same way, there are enough Hindus whose blood is simmering and is very soon going to boil over and that in itself will be something for the infidels (yes, I mean the Christians) to reckon with. When that happens, all their saints and messaiahs and prophet and monetary backing will not be enough to save them. I only hope that happens in my lifetime. At least what the muslims do is open with no pretence and no hidden thorns in a seemingly harmless and beautiful flower. The Christians though are a whole different kettle of fish.
October 3rd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
And one more thing Deepak which I missed in my last post. We do need more people like you as well. I think you are doing a great jod but I also do think that you may feel you are fighting a losing battle or are shouting at the deaf. Not so at all. I am proud of the fact that there are young Hindus today who feel like I do, but we need to understand and acknowledge that it is a long and a difficult task we have ahead. Let us keep the faith (not blind faith which is what most christians have), both in our great religion and in ourselves.
October 4th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Nikki,
What is wrong if christians copy us?. They may practice what they please and they are our own people but with a diifferent God. Yiu should be proud that they are following us and finding our methods of reaching God pleasing. We are a soverrign country and we are free to practice and propagate our faith.
Our nation is not of us hindus. . It is a amalgamation of various religions and we are united against our diversity. this is india’s beauty.This hate other-sect philosophy will make our religion most hated just like islam (because of all these terrorist attacks and fundamentalist taliban like attitude).The glorious hinduism will not be rresurrected as you think with this hate campaign . If you can , do something for the suffering, poor, illiterate being a hindu rather than this hatred which will not lead us anywhere. If every hindu choses violece in evrey family…first it would be christians then muslims, then sicks, then jains, then fellow hindus. Moreover the more you suppress the more it would grow fervently and christianity would be practiced by more hindus if not this violece stopped.
October 4th, 2008 at 1:04 am
Sir,
I am aged 65 a Hindu Orthodox Brahmin. From my child hood itself the Christian preachers are serving volunterly leaflets to all the HINDUS, in train(Moving) Buses and all otyher Busstops and even on the road sides to encourage the Hindus to convert to Christianism. Our HGindu Brothers were so far keep calm and this is the correctr time to give proper reply like this.
October 4th, 2008 at 1:15 am
An advice to Sangeeta Shenoy,
If you have any intellectual honesty left, please read two books before talking to me:
1. Why I am not a Christian? by Bertrand Russell.
2. Harvesting our Souls? by Arun Shourie.
You are really in the dark. You have internalised the padre poison wholesale.
Each person has his own way of thinking. It all depends on the persons’ up-bringing whether he grows into a positive or crooked person. You find books for and against every religion. they will not increase your knowledge. They are sharpening your brain to some part of it by substantiating with some facts to suit your idealogy. If i have to prove hindu a failure religion i can read hindu-hate books or films and can claim as intelligent person just lthe way you do to christainity. Rather see the beauty of that religion and love its people without losing your faith. To aquire that you should have love for humanity which is distorted in you may be because of bad up-bringing.
October 4th, 2008 at 1:21 am
that was rely to self claiming intelligent person deepak kamat . If you have hatred in your heart you can develop it further by studying and equipping yourself with more hatred. There are so many books on love too. It only shows his wicked heart
October 4th, 2008 at 1:21 am
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October 4th, 2008 at 1:27 am
sangeetha: Are you aware Sri Sri Ravi
Shankar of the Art of Living fame and Veerendra Heggade of Dharamastala are products of St Joseph’s college bangalore?
Deepak : If they were, so what?
Here i was telling you that the people who come out of christian colleges are not silly hindus as u claimed about your pride that you didnot study in christian institution.
October 4th, 2008 at 1:35 am
What are these konkanis fighting for?. It is they who have taken our business, land and god for their selfish gain.
They are not from our karnataka. they are from goa. They are real napunsaks who flew to coastal karnataka when portuguese attacked them. Have all hindus ran away from goa like they did?. They dont have dum in their bum and talk of saving india. down with these kamats, shenoys, bhats .
October 4th, 2008 at 1:38 am
If at all we have to save ourselves from these outsiders is konkani farce community and save our land from these land grabbers.
October 4th, 2008 at 1:43 am
now these idiots want to take our coastal belt to goa and they have already approached supreme court for hearing. These rougues want to add our karnataka coastal belt to goa because they have sizable number of they and do you know whose help are they taking?. Thses very catholics . down with konkanis and jai kannada.
October 4th, 2008 at 1:46 am
It is high time we coastal karnataka wake up and save our tulu and kannada language regions becoming konkani from thses farce hindu-saviors. They are hypocrites who take help from konkani speaking christian and malabar community and a lot of signature campaigning is going on in karwar gokarna kumta honnavar udupi and mangalore by these konkani double -standard rogues
October 4th, 2008 at 2:11 am
The REAL deepak kamat behind the mask
Dogma:He says” I think you are in the habit of lifting Padre’s frock and sucking his cock”
This is his answer to my saying “napunsaks” for sangh parivar’s armed attacks on un-armed innocent people and rapes of nuns.
He claims further…
I told you that I am a masculine Hindu who believes in taking two eye for an eye. You started it first by calling Bajrangis Impotent, so I replied with double vegenance that you are a padre cock-sucker.
Reality,
As i ponted out ealier This statement shows his wicked state of mind and his intellectual statement to a woman.
I also asked him ” if his won mother opposed him was he calling her “cock -sucking lady” ? for which he has not replied which seems he has accepted it. If a person of dirty mind can tell such a thing to a woman , my hindu brothers please wake up to expose his farce hanuman bhakti , the real being his impotence or may be love of same-sex failure with which has led him to such a situation to hate the complete community for it.
he has not answerd whether hanuman raped women, nor he has replied have they attacked innocent lankans instead of ravan’s sena?.
With this one can conclude that he has taken the guise of “veer hanuman” for his ” napunsak deeds”.
We love our great hanuman who is admired for his heroism and these idiots make him scape-goat for their actions of nepotism.
October 4th, 2008 at 2:13 am
his own mother
October 4th, 2008 at 2:43 am
It is indeed a shameless way adopted by whoever who wrote the pamphlet… There’s no doubt in that…
I saw many hindu brothers who are angry at the contents of the pamphlets. I can understand their feeling. But, if there’s something true in those statements, I think you should apply your logic in those comments.
If we are worshiping a God, at least our logic should verify that he/she has the credentials to be a god.
October 4th, 2008 at 3:14 am
Sangeeta,
You said ’sovereign counrty’ and the right to practise all faiths is enshrined in the constitution, ours being a secular country. Now, this is a forum to discuss the activities of certain Christians who are living in the same sovereign and secular country as us but do not respect other religions and gods, which is what secularism implies. Respect means not distributing pamphlets like the ones we’ve sees on this blog, respect means not decrying other faiths, respect means not brainwashing people ad nauseum that their religion and their god is the ONLY way and all else is crap and hell bound for eternity.
And I’ll tell you why their shamelessly copying us is wrong – it is this nefarious copying which is being used as a tool of conversion among the ignorant masses. IF every padre believes it is his religious duty to ’save’ a heathen, I believe it is my moral duty to rescue people who are being misled and misguided for ulterior motives by those very same padres.
And what may I ask are your credentials, you who so loftily preach that we should work for the upliftment of the poor and illiterate? What have you done other than voicing some very confused thoughts in a somewhat garbled manner on this blog? I am at least giving you the opportunity to enlighten us, but how do you assume straight away that I don’t do what I need to do for the downtrodden and less fortunate? It is these assumptions which are going to be your downfall, on this blog surely and elsewhere, I wouldn’t care to hazard a guess. Let me educate you about something – a person can do all of this and more and his or her blood can still boil over when he or she observes and understands what atrocities are being committed by the christians in the name of their religion. You seem to take pleasure in branding those persons ‘fundamentalists’. Well if that be the case, so be it. It’s a tag I am proud to wear.
If every Hindu chooses violence in every family…it would not as you claim first be christians then muslims, then sikhs, then jains, then fellow Hindus. For centuries we have welcomed into our country and coexisted with other great world religions and have often been pliant to the point of near annhilation, but that has to stop at some point. All we want is for that respect to be mutual. You cannot expect us to bear any and all nonsense in the name of secularism, sovereignty, etc etc. This is the make or break time for all Hindus. It is our existence and our faith and our great religion which is at stake here. So let’s not get carried away or spout ideological crap which is what we’ve been hearing for aeons now.
October 4th, 2008 at 3:21 am
i agree what karunakar shetty has written about the neoptist brahmin community of goa who fled due to fear are now preaching other peaceful hindus to attack. Thses people donot have courage to attack when confronted but are number one in organizing riots. This is brahmin-brain and their domination has been there for centuries and they are the ones who doctrined evil caste system in india.
Nothing will happen to them because they work behind the scene and sufferes are the common people who donate brain to these rascals and end up languishing in jails wher3e as thsese bastards join konkani speaking people and add our tulunadu to goa as they are in sizeable numbers.
October 4th, 2008 at 3:35 am
Nikki’
your reply to sangeetha shenoy is nothing but advocacy of hatred for wrong doing by missionaries. You cannot blame whole community for one person’s mistake. Can’t you find hindu priests exploiting?. Is it right to kill the hindus on that pretext.
Proud hindu is a one who loves and respects the other person even though he is of other sect. WIth loviong deeds he serves the down trodden.
does the society and hinduism prud by doing some beautiful things by serving the mankind but arrogant is the one who doctrines “proud hindutva” but practices evil with hatred in his heart and wants to eliminate other sect and who is dear to god…you ask yourself if you have conscience or have u lost it long way?
October 4th, 2008 at 3:54 am
Mala,
My conscience is intact and in place. The real question is about yours. And I’m not blaming an entire community for one person’s mistake-now that would be silly, wouldn’t it? I’m blaming the for the wrong being done by the MAJORITY of the comminity, for is it not wrong for the good christian to stand by and watch silently when the soul harvesters are committing vile deeds to increase their flock? And I am really giving the christians the benefit of the doubt when I say that they are just standing by silently. Reality is worse. Haven’t we seen the sometimes pitiable efforts of Ajit and his august company to shove ridiculous and christian bullshit down our throats on this very blog till we gag?
What were those words you used…. ‘advocacy of hatred for wrong doing by missionaries’… wow, pretty fancy sounding that. Though I wonder, do you know what it means? Because if you did, you’d not be useing them here in the context of what I have written. But since you’ve tempted me, I’ll just use your very words – would you rather I kept mum and have me advocate LOVE for the wrong doing by the missionaries? Because whether or not you admit it, that is what sitting by silently watching this happen amounts to.
October 4th, 2008 at 7:52 am
Hi Deepak,
Please give up before it is too late. some of your answers resemble words of a frustrated and confused soul. The language is also losing its sheen. Please wake up otherwise this blog will have its own premature death.
Initially I started reading all your articles since I thought a person from a good Sarawsatha community would be very profound and sharp. But there is nothing intellectual, only a merry go around and beating around the bush.
You claim to have read several books but there is a difference between – information, knowledge and wisdom. You are just well informed. Swami Vivekananda had a good wisdom. Remember, you come from a very self ish community, saraswatha, and it is very difficult to shed inhibitions. Don’t talk about the concept of “Amritasya putra”
and if you really mean it start it from your Saraswath temples. Just visit some Lingayath Mathas and you will understand how the society should be. You are unable to see beyond the rim of your plate. Please awake and araise and you will definitely be a good mass leader with an intellectual thinking.
October 4th, 2008 at 8:12 am
For the past few days police have been hunting for Jehadis in Mangalore, Ullala, Manipal and other DK districts. But none of our Bajarang Dal leaders have given call for bundh or organized protest march.
Even there are rumours that some of the madarasas asre breeding grounds for these activities not even a single bhajarang dal activist has collected required information and initiated any attacks to stop the same. Have they not understood the seriousness of the matter?
October 4th, 2008 at 8:35 am
How dare you writing all this things about god. If you don’t want to belive in god than don’t than don’t. But don’t do like this.
October 4th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
This is an interesting website run by the ALl India christian Council, the self-proclaimed ‘coalition birthed in 1998 to protect and serve the Christian Community, Minorities, and the Oppressed Castes’. To all those people who were questioning and continue to question how conversion can be happening when the number of christians according to the national census is the same or on the decline, please read what this site says about secret converts to christianity. I’d like to see you squirm you way out of this one, considering it is certain pompous and self-righteous members of your breed who have admitted what reality is, in terms of the sheer volumes of christian converts in India today.
Please see http://indianchristians.in/news/content/view/1604/47/
October 4th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Dear Nikki,
I agree with you cent percent regarding the unlawful activities of the wretched Christian gang in our country. When I was in Udupi in the year 2000 A.C.E., a worker under me who was a Hindu sported a cross round his neck.On enquiry, I found that he was paid Rs.100 to wear the hated cross. After advising him not to fall in the Christian trap, I ensured that the symbol of death vehiclewas thrown in the dust bin which it deserved.
In Chennai, the story was different. An auto driver who required alcoholic de-addiction, went to a wretched Father in a Church seeking his assistance. The solution offered to him was simple. The church would give him a free auto, give education to his two children in a mission school and bear all the expenses for his de-addiction programme.Very noble Christian help indeed. Condition : He and his entire family should convert. For some reason (may be his wife believed in Hindu Gods)’ they did not agree till date. Half of his wife”s family members have already become christians because of money offered.
It is time, these foreign mercenaries are put in their place.
Recently, when I was in Kerala, I stayed in a church premises. Hindu orphan boys and girls are herded to-gether in the name of Bible Studies, converted. Group, photos were taken for despatch to the white rascals abroad with a view, perhaps, to collect the money. One white women was present to monitorthe programme.
Chritianity has no inherent merit. It is being marketed with money from overseas. In Europe and the U.S., it is already perishing. Unfortunately, the demise of Christianity in these places is giving rise to Islam. This is the tragedy.
October 5th, 2008 at 1:20 am
@ All,
Don’t judge me prematurely. I am busy writing the book. Judge me after that. Meanwile, cotinue with your arguments here. I will organise a forum for this in te community soon.
Meanwhile, nobody has been able to counter me when it comes to Christian fundamentalism. All that I have been getting is personal abuses.
October 5th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Good details. Why can’t such book be banned and the author be punished?
October 5th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Kamat>>>nobody has been able to counter me when it comes to Christian fundamentalism>>>
Counter in what.. Killing and gang-rape??
Rather,you have to present your counter view about the hand-out which you feel is denigration hindu gods. True God,doesnt need a man or his creation to prevent him, The Creator. Instead of debating and presenting your view, the hindos in M’lore have resorted to terror,which no way better than SIMI..
Now I would appreciate if you could answer to my questions..
Can gods be Unholy? God who is believed to be of All Powerful with the trait of Absolute Holiness,Righteousness & Justice, would resort to this kind of unholy acts explained in the tract ?
Let Bajrangdal join in a philosophical/metaphysical debate to prove those points wrong, instead of resorting to murder/torching alive/rape ..
October 5th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
>>>>All the 16 incidents that took place were not attack on Churches
Stop telling lies.. The whole world knows,that the hindu Bajrangdal mob attacked the 350 year old Milagres Church ..Its not new,, even Tipu Sultan attacked the same church..
Now I can only relate Hindoos with Moslems,when it comes to the acts of terror..
October 5th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Hinduism is drowning. it will have its premature death because of these selfish idiots who proclaim themselves as saviors where as in reality they donot believe in any god or godess’. for them religion is way to attack , un-retaliating, help-less, innocent christians which should be criticised by all god-fearing people.
We are not Taliban. Its the duty of the government and state bodies to protect the people but it is sad indeed that bjp ruled states have other agenda in their mind.
It is not missionaries who are doing religious conversions but it is these dongi bhajrangis’ with their latis and rapes and burning of houses forcing people . It is high time the centre banned these evil forces before the world loses hopes on hinduism and we have not left with any morals to tell the children.
The word “napusansaka sena” may sound a bit embarassing for bhajrangdal but by the nature of their deeds there is no doubt about it that when it comes to real fight they are the ones who will run first but when they are 100% sure the enemy is week and will not fight back then only their so called “masculinity” ” two-eyes for an eye” dialogues can be heard.
Instead of looking at the good work the christians do and follow the same and improve our hinduism, these “pea-nut” brained , “self-boisterous”, idiots want to take lord hanuman’s name and destroy his image by comparing his heroic deeds of fighting lankan army to these rapes, burtning houses of innocent christians.
THE REAL DENIGRATION OF HINDU GODS” AND GODESSES” IS NOT BY MISSIONARIES BUT BY THSE IDIOTS WHO VIRTUALLY TELL THAT THEY ARE HANUMAN FOLLOWERS AND INSULT OUR HINDU FAITH by KILLING , RENDERENIG THOUSANDS HOMELESS BY BURNING THEIR HOUSES, GANG RAPING NUNS ETC.
WAS OUR HANUMAN STOOPED SO LOW AS TO RAPE?
THESE ARE REAL DESH_DROHIS WHo wants to prove us otherwise.
October 5th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
>>>If you have any intellectual honesty left, please read two books before talking to me:
1. Why I am not a Christian? by Bertrand Russell.
2. Harvesting our Souls? by Arun Shourie
>>>
There are quite a lot of philosophical writings/books which has come out in the last century to give a convincing answer to Bertrand Russels writing..
But how many Kamats have the intellectual ability to respond to the book “Why I Am Not A Hindu” written by Dr.Kancha Ilaiah… I’m sure you would not attempt, cos you would stand self exposed with your caste hegemony .
I thought this guy, KAMAT is an intellect, when I glanced this site.. He claims he is writing a book too… This fellow has no intellectual thinking or knowledge too..I can sense from his response.. A best person to join BajrangDal or RSS.. not for intellectual debate.. He has ducked many of my questions in another thread.
October 5th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
kavita /sangeetha shenoy
Created new ID just to post my views
Your book will bite the dust just the way your farce nature is Deepak kamat. Your hypocrysy -every one knows by now.
It has also come to eveyone’s guess that who are the real authors of those literatures are. And it was a well planned strategy and not retalliation as claimed by these rogues. Well organized so that simultanius attacks were planned everywhere.
similar to the organized attacks by simi. Right?
When the mind is wicked it will do all that is possible to substantiate it.
One more thing..
Even though mahendra kumar accepted bhajrang dal’s role in attacks ,home minister kept on denying it. ( reason is obvious. Many may not be knowing that he is founder member of rss in south india)
Latest news for those who falsely claim christians murdered swami is orissa and the attacks were results of the same.
maoist leader has openly claimed again on camera responsibility for killing of swami and his followeres and the reason for it too
but these rougues are still killing innocent christians, raping, burning houses etc. which is planned attack and they are using this an opportunity to attacks
Hinduism’s cancer is these napunsak-bhajrangis.
it is time we cut them and throw them to save hinduism.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
The question is what is the stand of christianity/bible/jesus towards non christians.
The answer is plain and simple:
Hatred, conversion, violence, genocide.
There is no place in India for such hate filled barbaric system. The ultimate expression of Christianity is in nazi beliefs where the non-christian is horrendously killed. The same thing happened in Goa some centuries back.
Now Christianazis are back through the backdoor with their evil genocidal mission of massacring Hinduism.
We need to confront this violent believers of dead corpse in the language is knows. Dharma only protects those who protect dharma. Christianity is evil, devil obssessed adharmic system. Even the west has largely done away with this christianazi system.
October 5th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Venkat>>>The question is what is the stand of christianity/bible/jesus towards non christians.
The answer is simple. Spread the message of Jesus Christ, and follow his teachings,lead a good life,and reach towards the True God. But any genocide or inquisitions happened, we all should condemn it, as is definitely against the teachings of God. Christ never took sword
>>>Dharma only protects those who protect dharma.>>>
If you want to protect the ideology of Dharma with violence/rape/murder/torching alive etc, then there is very little to claim that, dharma ideology could be right,cos it violates the fundamental rights of the human being.
>>>ultimate expression of Christianity is in nazi beliefs >>>
Christ stood all man kind, not just for one particular community..But Hitler was interested in his own race,Aryan Ideology, similar to our Brahminism. Don’t forget, Hitler’s symbol was Swastika
October 6th, 2008 at 2:24 am
@ Sapr333
Hitler was a Christian who killed Jews because of his Christian conditionings. Hitler was in no way closer to Brahmins.
In fact Hitler told the Pope of his time: “I have only done what the Church has always done”.
So it is the CHurch which is closer to Hitler’s genocide, not Hinduism. Get your pseudosecular tail straight.
October 6th, 2008 at 2:53 am
Deepak kamat dogma:
Hitler was a Christian who killed Jews because of his Christian conditionings. Hitler was in no way closer to Brahmins.
In fact Hitler told the Pope of his time: “I have only done what the Church has always done”.
So it is the CHurch which is closer to Hitler’s genocide, not Hinduism. Get your pseudosecular tail straight.
Reality”:
Hitler was a born christian but didnot follow it after 7th grade.he shun it because his brain was similar to that of RSS which was based on hatred.
If he has challenged pope about his his deeds ( according to you) then that itself shows he is against christians.
I agree with Sapr333’s view that his idealogy was similar to RSS.
Now these rougues want to ruin veer hanuman’s legacy by putting bad picture of him by their napunsaka deeds.
October 6th, 2008 at 7:24 am
Hitler to the Pope:
“I have only done what you have done but only better.”
This is a quote recorded by historians. Hitler’s Christian conditioning has gone very deep.
Just because he is a fascist does not mean that he is not a Christian. RSS was nowhere in the scene during the Nazi holocaust.