DENIGRATION OF HINDU GODS IS THE REAL REASON FOR ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS IN MANGALORE
The Following are the list of abuses from one such book – Satya Darshini – distributed by the missionaries of New Life. This book is in Kannada and the translation of the abusive passage is as follows.
· Urvashi – the daughter of Narayana– is a prostitute. Vashitha is the son of this prostitute. He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48)
· When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a need for us to liberate his misled followers. (page 50)
· It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita. Since Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were themselves the victims of lust, it is a sin to consider them as Gods. (page 39)
· When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by lust and anger, how can they liberate others. Their projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39).
· When Vishnu asked Brahma to commit a sin, he immediately did so. How can such a “evil brahma” be a Creator of this Universe? How is it possible for both the sinner and the entity which provoked the sin to be gods? (page 39)
· God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are worshipping False Gods that believe in the pleasures of illicit ‘Vyabichari’ relationships. (Page 39).
2. All the 16 incidents that took place were not attack on Churches. In fact, unauthorized prayer halls were attacked where the blasphemous pamphlets were distributed and aggressive proselytisation was taking place. These 16 incidents were not localized but took place across three districts of Mangalore, Udupi and Chikmagalur.
3. The only place where attacks took place apart from New Life Prayer Halls was at a small prayer hall in the premises of Milagres Church in Mangalore, where some miscreants had damaged a Jesus idol. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the attack at this place. Following this incident, a Christian mob gathered and the situation went out of control as the mob started pelting stones and disrupting traffic. The police was forced to intervene and this resulted in unsavoury violence.
4. Since the past two days, it is not Hindu-Christian clashes that are taking place. In fact, it is more appropriate to call it”Christian-Police” clashes since the Christians holed up in Churches have engaged themselves in pelting of stones and disruption of traffic. The Police were forced to enter the Church to clear the mob and they found arms inside the Church.
5. Incidents of Stabbing were reported in around four or five places across Mangalore district. In fact, an activist belonging to Shri Ram Sena was stabbed which led to a bandh call by Shri Ram Sena – a Hindu outfit that is not connected to Sangh Parivar.
6. The VHP and the Bajrang Dal have condemned the desecration of Jesus idol at the prayer hall adjacent to the Milagres Church in Mangalore. They have also clarified that they are not against the Catholic faith and the Churches. However, they have clarified that the public outcry would continue as long as illicit conversion activities and blasphemy of Hindu gods take place.
7. Even the Kandhmahal murder — which involved the killing of Hindu monk Swami Lakshmananda by missionaries – seems to have caste a shadow on this incident since the general public seems to have seen through Christian aggression.
8. It may be recalled that there was a public outcry against illegal prayer halls in Davanagere district last week. In that case, the administration had closed the unauthorized prayer halls that were mushrooming in the region.
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Fascist Trends in Indian Media
October 6th, 2008 at 7:55 am
5 held for distributing provocative pamphlets
25 Sep 2008, 2112 hrs IST,PTI
COIMBATORE: Five staff of a school in Chennai, including its principal, have been arrested for distributing pamphlets “propagating” Christianity and “degrading” Hindu gods in the city following complaints by the BJP and Hindu Makkal activists.
Police said a group, including students, of East Coast Christian Matriculation School in Neelankarai had come on a tour to Udhagamandalam and the city on Tuesday night and parked their vehicle at Corporation grounds on Crosscut road.
As the students and some teachers left for shopping, the five persons started distributing pamphlets “propagating” Christianity and reportedly “denigrating” Hindu Gods, they said.
Some BJP and Hindu Makkal Katchi activists came at the spot and handed them over to police demanding registration of non-bailable case of attempt to create communal hatred, police said.
They were produced before a court on Wednesday afternoon and sent to 15-day judicial remand, they said.
Meanwhile, the students and some teachers, who returned from shopping, were later sent to Udhagamandalam and from there they had left for Chennai, they added.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/5_held_in_Chennai_over_pamphlet_row/articleshow/3528164.cms
October 6th, 2008 at 8:03 am
Translated bible rocks Jharkhand assembly
RANCHI: Controversial lines in a translated version of the Bible in Jharkhand rocked the state assembly on Tuesday, leading to an assurance by the government that the book would be recalled.
The book in Kuduk language, one of the main tribal languages in Jharkhand, has been brought out by the Bible Society of India (BSI).
The translated version reportedly says: “Destroy the trees and Sarna (tribals’ worship places).”
“BSI has done a criminal act by publishing such derogatory remarks in the translated Bible. This is a conspiracy against the tribal society. …
Deputy Chief Minister Stephen Marandi said: “We admit the fault. Wrong translation of Bible has been done by BSI.
Tribal scholars demanded suitable action against the publishers. “The Christian missionaries have no right to hurt the sentiment of the tribal people. The issue could take a volatile shape if such things take place,” said Karma Oraon, a tribal scholar.
Less than a year back, another book published by the society had insulted a local freedom fighter. The issue was also raised in the state assembly.
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1192527
October 6th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Deepak Kamat>>RSS was nowhere in the scene during the Nazi holocaust.>>>
I am quite surprised here about your claim of writing a book..One who takes a stick can not become a hunter huh..!! Man!! first get yourself bit learned,instead of brewing hatred…anyways, I will share few instances…
In 1939, Savarkar’s Hindu Mahasabha celebrated Germany’s ‘solemn revival of Aryan culture, the glorification of the Swastika, her patronage of Vedic learning, and the ardent championship of the tradition of Indo-Germanic civilisation’
In 1930, B. S. Moonje, an RSS co-founder was inspired to model the RSS on Fascist and Nazi movements ,and for this he met Mussoulini in Italy, to derive similar ideology.
Hitler’s chief priestess is Savitri Devi, who gave facist swastik advice to him in line of Aryan Supermacy..
You may seek more info, by googling these titles.
October 6th, 2008 at 8:33 am
>>>Hitler to the Pope:>>
You know verywell, the Allies who crushed Hitler were all majority Chrisitans..
Having said that, there is definitely something wrong with the Christians according to the teachings of Jesus Christ in line with “Good Samaritan Parable”..
Yes, the Christians of Europe should not have been mute specators to Hitlers Aryan Supremacy genocide. Its sin according to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
October 6th, 2008 at 11:30 am
deepak Kamat>>>DENIGRATION OF HINDU GODS IS THE REAL REASON FOR ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS IN MANGALORE>>
First of all your own title message is wrong. . No one can dedigrat the All Powerful Almighty God.. And no humans are wanted to protect the God..
If you disagree with me, then, there would be a aetheist question, Why we need such god-head, who wants to protected by BajranDal/RSS?
October 6th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
good point sapr333. truth cannot be snubbed for long. Christians, we are ashamed of these eunuchs who have no guts to fight the borders beacause they are real napunsaks. they can only attack only the innocent , un-armed and non-reatliating christians by burning them alive and raping them. These bhajrangis are curse of hinduism.
October 6th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
@ Sapr 33,
None of the person mentioned were part of RSS.
Go get your facts rigth.
October 6th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Pseudosecular lies cuts no ice with me because I am a former journalist and I know every trick in the pseudosecular book.
October 6th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
In fact, it was the Leftists and the Christians who had supported fascism all along until Hitler tried to rip their own ass.
Get your facts right, Mr. Sapre 333. Don’t fool me. I have got all the facts and fictions at my command.
October 7th, 2008 at 12:10 am
>>>In 1930, B. S. Moonje, an RSS co-founder was inspired to model the RSS on Fascist and Nazi movements ,and for this he met Mussoulini in Italy, to derive similar ideology>>
Please google B.S Moonje – RSS – Mussolini, you will know the facts. Its well recorded in History too.
Deepak Kamat>> I am a former journalist >>
The way you write, present your view, meek articulation and the bleak level of knowledge you share, would make anyone doubt if you were a Journo!!! huh!! Even the driver of an editor calls himself being from PRESS, cos his car carries that sticker. Using Pen may not have been your cup of coffee. Btw, which corporation school you studied Deepa? Just curious..
October 7th, 2008 at 6:49 am
Hi Deepak,
You are very weak and vulnerable. A leader should not get distracted or lose the temperament. So what if you are a former journalist ?? What do you mean by in command of facts and fictions?? Have you observed how people visiting your blog has come down. You can never finish the book which you have been writing, because you have lost focus and I am sure you are still in first page.
Just observe how Pratap Simha and Ravi belegere write in Kannada. Learn to be focussed.
October 8th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Sapr33
HISTORICAL FACT and not dogma by you
In 1930, B. S. Moonje, an RSS co-founder was inspired to model the RSS on Fascist and Nazi movements ,and for this he met Mussoulini in Italy, to derive similar ideology.
In 1939, Savarkar’s Hindu Mahasabha celebrated Germany’s ‘solemn revival of Aryan culture, the glorification of the Swastika, her patronage of Vedic learning, and the ardent championship of the tradition of Indo-Germanic civilisation’
Hitler’s chief priestess is Savitri Devi, who gave facist swastik advice to him in line of Aryan Supermacy..
Reality
deepak kamat’s toungue is tied because he has to eat his own words.
his claim of murder of swamiji by christiians is as farce as his claim of being warrior of hinduism as maoist leadership time and again claimed responsibility.
hindus have to come out in open to oppose these murderes by using hinduism as disguise.
October 8th, 2008 at 2:23 am
@Deepak & others
From all of your comments,
You are coming to a conclusion about Christianity based on the lives of some people and not what God has instructed us in the bible.
I have repeatedly been telling you that being just Christians in front of others or for name sake does not mean they are Christians…
I would suggest you to go through these comic strips to understand what we actually believe in Christianity.
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp
October 8th, 2008 at 7:45 am
tell u how this bitch using de name “sealion” was born, well ‘is mom was not sexually satisfied by ‘is puny wimp dad,
so she went naked night after night to get fucked by more wimp’s obviously members of RRS(Road Side Pigs),VHP(Very Horny Pigs) n Bajrang Dal(Bastard Dogs),while ‘is maa’s cunt and ass hole was soaring by constantly being fucked,mean while his baap was giv’in blow up jobs(sucking n licking PENIS) of Bastard Joota Party (BJP),specially of the bald dog advani.later ‘is poor lil baap was fucked by ‘is own SheMale daughter’s,n.modi playing flute fucked in n out ‘is mother.Alas “he”-’chut sealion’(product of the above mentioned chakas) came out off ‘is maa’s cunt,n since then her mother is fucking tis ’sealion’ by her own clit. he prefers to live in ‘is maa’s cunt and ShitHole,he is also called as SeeShit.
October 8th, 2008 at 8:09 am
yeah very true about tis seeshit aka SEALION
this all took place at Baroda
October 8th, 2008 at 8:11 am
yeah very true about tis seeshit aka SEALION
this all took place at Baroda ooh look at this lion barking
October 8th, 2008 at 10:50 am
Deepak Kamat, your site is sinking. So is your venture of “spreading the word of sanatana Dharma internationally. The words you used on Shenoy shows your culture. The way you dealt with Sea lion (not restricting) shows your lack of leadership and lack of insight. Do you really think that you will be one of those great people who could be the face of Modern Hinduism?. i don’t think so. You are just what it is – a propagandist for the Hindu Nazis. (they are not even fascists by definition, just Nazis)
October 8th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Dr.Ayyer, how dare you make your staff person take off a cross he was wearing? Do you know that was attack on his personal faith? Did n’t he take it off because he will lose his job otherwise? and how did you become a big Doctor – because you are a Brhamin? who used to colonise India take out all from other poor people. So you were set up to be a rich person from the beginning? How dare you come to Kerala and express your petty religious sentiments? In Kerala we all live very nicely together. If you don’t want to see amodern system, don’t step out of your Brahmin home again.
For all those idiots using Hitler to attack Christianity;
Hitler, was not a Christian. He was a Nazi. (just like Veer savalkar or whoever got excited by Nazi books while in jail). He was the proponent of – you heard it Arian supremacy (which the indian Nazis liked – but later was dizzed when real Nazis said Indians have fallen down because they are a mix and the European Arians don’t need them, hear athat Kamath?) . His whole rule was based on the revival of somekind of pagan religion (with some mother god etc?) they had ceremonies to revive these ancient practices, bringing back the ancient Arian glory. To start with this theory of Arian supremacy is not Christian at all. This theory starts from the theory of evoluntionary supremacy. Not like God made Arian whites best.
and you remember Swastike? Hitler took it from Hindu religion claiming that it is an ancient sign of sun worship. Unabashedly Hindutwawaadis still use this Swastika saying that this is a Hindu sign. They just put couple of dots around the sun sign to make it different and say that the sign denotes movement. Just ridiculous
October 8th, 2008 at 11:11 am
My Hindu brothers, let me tell you. If this is the way you want to go, we will go that way. Inida will be split into 10 in 10 years. Half will be with China and Communits. Some Dravidian and secular. Some illiterate areas go for Hindustan run by beggar sadhus and Bramins. Most big cities become war zone between Hindus and Muslims. Punjab to Sikhs. How about that? Do you really want that?
You think if everybody goes the Hindutwa way, things will be better. No That is not India. When India was made it was made as a secular country with freedom of religion, language and ideas. If some Nazis and Brahmins want to change that we will defeat them. We, the sane balanced people.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:13 am
It was much better when RSS was banned after they killed Gandhi. When was India ruled together as one country under a Hindy king. Not gonna happen. All you can do is go around and kill and rape some poor souls. Incite Tribals to attck minorities and then keep them as tribals for ever. You Nazis will pay fr this Adharma. Well this is Kaliyuga!!
October 8th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Look at all those people who are so fired up about “hindutwa”. Kamath, Rao, Aiyyer – all remnants of a stupid begoted caste system which was the curse of India and Hindus. You should first get out of your pond. Your Brahmin rule is gone forever. Thank gods that you got a better start than the other couple of billion poo people in India.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:29 am
When I read the Aiyyers comment I just thought about the picture on “why I am not Hindu” book. An ayyer stepping on a poor low caste Indian. This guy sounded very arrorant that his Brahmin mentality hit me really hit me. This is exactly why common people in Tamilnaadu hate these blood sucking leaches.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Shweta thank you. I just read your post now. Kamat is just hollow, no substance except some nonsense from Vedas.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:33 am
savitri devi, that is information to me, amazing.
October 8th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Priestess of Hitlerism: Savitri Devi
by Kerry Bolton
Savitri Devi might be considered the mother of ‘Esoteric Hitlerism’; the myth of the Immortal Hitler arising from the ruins and death of the Reich to redeem a fallen Aryandom. Devi has been described by Chilean author and diplomat Miguel Serrano as ‘the greatest fighter after Adolf Hitler, Rudolf Hess and Joseph Goebbels.” Moreover she was the first to discover the secret and spiritual power behind Hitlerism.
She was born Maximiani Portas. 30 Sept. 1905 in Lyon, France, of Greek and English parents. There she studied chemistry and gained a doctorate in Letters. Travelling widely in Europe and Asia, mastering 7 languages, including Bengali, her desire to uncover the lost knowledge of the Aryans led her to India in 1932. She took the name Savitri Devi in honour of the Indo-Aryan Sun goddess, and married a brahman Sri Asit Krisna Mukherji, who was editor of a pro-Axis Magazine, The New Mercury.
Regarding NS as the practical manifestation of Aryan cosmology as it continued in Hinduism, she worked with pro-Axis and independence movements in India during the war.
In a 1980 article “Hitlerism & the Hindu World,” published in The National Socialist, Savitri explained the basis of Esoteric Hitlerism and related some of her experiences with the Hindus during the war. Quoting Ramana Maharishi, “one of the greatest spiritual personalities of modern India,” the sage’s reply to a question on Hitler was that “He is a gnani”. This Devi explains is a sage, one who is fully conscious through personal experience “of the eternal truths that express the Essence of the Universe.”
Included in this ancient Aryan cosmic law as the Hindus had maintained it was a belief in the inequality of creatures including races.
Savitri (like Julius Evola) traces the ancient Aryan cosmology to the Arctic, to Hyperborea of Thule in a line of descent from the Thule Society to National Socialism.
“Well did von Sebottendorff, founder of the famous Thule Society owe a lot to his visits to India and his contacts with the Hindus conscius of their Hyperborean traditions.” Devi naturally saw great significance in Hitler’s choice of the swastika as the symbol of NS, “the visible link between Hitler and orthodox Hinduism.”
TO GERMANY
In 1948 she travelled to war ravaged Europe, to Germany on her way from Sweden and England. This was the first time she visited the birthplace of Hitlerism.
“Now the gods had ordained that I should have a glimpse of ruins. Bitter, irony of fate,” she wrote in her Gold in the Furnace.
In Sweden she met various Swedish NS, including the famous explorer Sven Hedin. Her mission, she explained to Hedin and the younger comrades, was to deliver a message of hope to the Germans. Not knowing any reliable printers, she had handwritten hundreds of leaflets depicting the swastika and declaring:
“Men and women of Germany! In the midst of untold hardships and suffering, hold fast to your glorius NS and resist! Defy our persecutors!… Nothing can destroy that wich is built on truth. We are the pure gold put to test in the furnace. Let the furnace blaze and roar! Nothing destroy us. One day we shall rise. And triumph again! Hope and wait! Heil Hitler!”
Working with a troupe of dancers and a Jewish manager, dressed in a sari and adorned with swastika earings, she threw these leaflets from the trains as she crossed ravaged Germany, the leaflets wrapped in with little gifts of coffee, sugar or butter.
To Devi the scattering of those leaflets across Germany took on the significance of cosmic proportions, “written and thrown by the gods through me.” About to cross the border into Belgium she began to sing a Hindu hymn to Shiva, ‘the Creator and Destroyer’.
In London Devi had 6,000 of the leaflets professionally printed and returned to Germany. Over the course of a year she was arrested several times and detained in France. She wrote Gold in the Furnace in a cell in Germany in 1949.
PILGRIMAGE
In 1953 Savitri returned to Germany on a pilgrimage to the holy places of NS and German Heathenism. This pilgrimage resulted in a book of that name the following year but apparently not actually published until 1958. The journey had taken place despite a decree of expulsion by the Occupation Authorities.
However, for Devi the Hitler Faith was a practical one, “an essentially earthly one that has nothing to do with those metaphysical problems that worry people for whom our living world is not sufficient.” Savitri was not concerned with a personal god or with guestions of an afterlife, but with the worship of things that can be seen and felt in daily life, and the godhead which she believed existed within the Aryan, impelling it towards higher evolution.
This is the ‘Order and Rhythm’ inherent in Life, part of the Cosmic Dance with a cyclic interaction of birth, death, creation, destruction, love, hate; polarities engaged in a cosmic ‘impersonal struggle’ reflected in the laws of nature. All forms of life were to be esteemed in their right place, faith with the Aryan at the apex. Those opposing the cosmic order were to be fought with ‘detached violence’, the Hindu conception of which is contained in the Hindu scripture Bhagavad Gita.
Devi had plenty of close calls on her German pilgrimage, stopped by customs with large quantities of her book Gold in the Furnace and Defiance. The culminating point of the Journey was to stand amidtts the row of 100 feet high rocks that formed the sanctuary of the primal Germanic sun cult, Externsteine, ‘the Rocks of the Sun’, where the solstices had been again celebrated under Hitler and where the Hitler Youth had been initiated; a monument more splendid than the sun monuments she had seen at Greece, Egypt and India.
In the central chamber, aligned to catch the rising sun, she stood with her arm outstrecthed in salute towards the sun. Then she recited a prayer to the impersonal cosmic god she believed had incarnated Hitler as a modern Avatar: “Lord of the unseen forces, whom I do not know and cannot grasp, whose majesty I adore in the eternal order of nature and in the heroic beauty of my comrades’ lives — they manifestations – help us, National Socialists, to keep thy truth within our hearts, and to bring into being, one day, our Führer’s real New Order, earthly reflection of merciless cosmic harmony!…”
After an oath, she consecrated the books she had already published, and the MS to her magnum opus, The Lightining & the Sun.
IN TIME, ABOVE TIME, AGAINST TIME
The Lighting & the Sun was begun in Scotland in 1948, written at intervals in Germany, and completed in 1956. The book was written to present a conception of history — ancient AND modern — unassailable from the standpoint of ETERNAL Truth. The principal figures used to illustrate the cyclic conception of history are Akhnatonn, Geghis and Hitler. They are placed in the context of a succession of ‘Ages’. Within Kali Yuga (Age of Darkness) Akhnaton was the ‘Man Above Time’, symbolised as the sun, the pharaoh who wished to return man to a long-lost olden Age, a visionary pushing against the tide of his own Age but without the practicality to realise his vision.
The ‘Man in Time’ exemplified by Genghis is a destructive force devoid of idealism, symbolised by – the lightning, acting in accord with the nature of his Age.
In Hitler Devi found the ‘Man Against Time’ combining idealism with force, both lightning and sun, waging war against the forces of the Age on a practical level; the Avatar of Kalki the Avenger who comes at the end of every Age. However, because Hitler was fighting against the cyclic tides of this Age his battle was foredoomed. Devi therefore believed it was the dharmic duty of Hitlerites to keep alive the flame of NS through the Kali Yuga as the basis for a New Order which Hitler had himself prophesied in 1928, seeing himself as but a herald: “I am not he; but while nobody comes forward to prepare the way for him, I do so.”
The companions at arms of the future Avatar would be the ‘last NS’ of iron will, tested through persecution, ‘avenging comrades’.
Savitri spent much of her life in India teaching English at a French school for young women. During the last years of her life she lived, blind, amidst poverty, with several dozen cats. She was always a champion of animal welfare, as explicated in her last book Impeachment of Man, seeing in the animal welfare legislation enacted in NS Germany the embodiment of cosmic law.
Savitri died suddenly on a visit to England on 22 October 1982. She was cremated and her ashes sent to the HQ of the NS movement ‘New Order’, deposited at a shrine in Arlington, Virginia. Presumably they now rest at the organisation’s subsequent HQ at Milwaukee
October 8th, 2008 at 11:42 am
I have seen many crazy ladies like that blinded by the Hindu Lights and Krishna love. All of them end up in antipsychotics.
October 9th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
In ‘upanishad’ it is described that only Hinduism will remain ever in India. Those who try to spoil this will definitely pay for it.
I too Agree with ‘time has come to say QUIT INDIA to congress’.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:52 am
Sarathy>>>In ‘upanishad’ it is described that only Hinduism will remain ever in IndiaIn ‘upanishad’ it is described that only Hinduism will remain ever in India>>>
Koran also claims similar thing that the whole world will be under its cloud. But its our duty under the freewill given by God, to evaluate all religions on the basis of Good Moral, respect for human life etc, and choose the best path which leads to True God..
For this we need to respect religious freedom and A will to explore the Ultimate truth which leads to True God.. If we are blinded/confined by somthing which we got by birth, then its just that we are only blindfolding our own freewill.
>>>Those who try to spoil this will definitely pay for it>>
How much Bajrangi’s and Mujahideens differ. Botn dont want to respect religious freedom.. Mujahideen offer Death Sentence who try to choose his religion. And Bajrangi’s torch alive /rape those who want to choose their religions.
October 10th, 2008 at 12:58 am
>>>Your Brahmin rule is gone forever.>>>
In the democratic set up, Brahminic hegemony has already gotten the death nail. Politics has already gone out of their hands and the beuracracy , they are almost loosing out.
The only option now for Brahminism to get back is, implement Hidutva. Once Hindutva is established, they naturally get in to the top again, in the name of Varna and born out of Gods head mythology. So now they incite all hindu backward class foot soldiers about Hindu spirit. But these foot soldiers doent know, one hinduism is established, they will naturally become the Foot of brahmins….Thats a pity.. People like Dr.Kancha Ilaiah has explained very nicely about this in his book Why I am not a hindu.. A must read for any Hindu foot soldiers…
October 10th, 2008 at 1:03 am
>>In ‘upanishad’ it is described that only Hinduism will remain ever in India. >>>
Where does it say??
First of all, there is no term India before British…Does upanishad metion Pakistan/Srilanka/Myanmar/Nepal will move out Hindustan? The only Hindu kingdom Nepal has already shed its hindu kingdom status.
So which Hindu- India you are imagining off..Some one said earlier,,,,,If so north east/Goa will become Christian country..Punjab a Sikh…Maharshtra will become Marati one…T.N will opt for a Dravidian country, than Hindu.. So whats left ?
October 10th, 2008 at 1:05 am
according to these goons who proclaim that they represent hinduism the way to moksha is not through meditation but by raping, burning innocent people alive and goondagiri.
we should be ashjamed of these people because they are taking the shelter of dharma for doing adharma and they are a blot, a un-curable cancer to hinduism and unless hindus distance themselves from these rougues time will come soon that hinduism as a religion will come to an end.
Denigration is a worry not because missionaries do it but these false-warriors, (definetly NAPUNSAKAS) who destroy name of Ram, hanuman, and swami vivekanad who were never been rapists or burnt inocent people alive.
Hindus please awake . what these need is spit on their faces and unless we unite against these goons hinduism will be ruined forever devoid of any moral standing. Just like islam being ruined by fanatic taliban ,simi, etc.
October 10th, 2008 at 4:48 am
Dr.VN.IYER>>>a worker under me who was a Hindu sported a cross round his neck.On enquiry, I found that he was paid Rs.100 to wear the hated cross. After advising him not to fall in the Christian trap>>>
If a promtional person could be paid for sporting the mascot (or) if sports shoe companies could ask the players to sport the logo in their T-Shirts and Cricket bats, whats wrong in paying a person for carrying the God’s message? Let me know what exactly you found wrong here?
>>>Chritianity has no inherent merit.>>
If so,please convince me how the un-holy acts of hindu gods(as metnioned in Satyavahini) can bring merit and moral inspirations to the common man like me.. Im curious to know..
>>>In Europe and the U.S., it is already perishing. Unfortunately, the demise of Christianity in these places is giving rise to Islam. This is the tragedy.
According to Bajrangi’s this could be viewed as tragedy, and hence they resort to rape/murder/torching alive. For , this it is a good sign of ‘Religious Freedom”.. So much of Musims/Christians got converrted to each others faith..But no one is raped/burnt alive in U.S/Eurpe..No mob fighthing,vandalizing out there… You guys should learn from it..
October 10th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Hindus and Indian has a great culture..But when it comes to the Concept of God, it has lots & lots of logical/Philosophical/Metaphysical flaws.
These things are getting exposed in this modern era of communications like Press/TV/Debates/Internets. Inorder to avoid this embarassement, Bajrangi’s are resorting to terror..
Actually they should involve in Hindu theological studies and get enlightened to answer to those flaws..
October 11th, 2008 at 2:44 am
@ All,
Hinduism is a way of life where one is free to have his own faith without troubling others.
Unfortunately, the Semitic faiths don’t think so. Islam and Christianity believe in Dar-ul-Islam and Evangalical world. Islam and Christianity stand by the terror manuals of Koran and Bible. That is why I say that conversion is the base of terrorism.
Ban conversions and put an end to all tensions.
October 11th, 2008 at 2:48 am
@ All,
I am not a propagandist like the Pope or the Ayotallah. I am only dishing out facts about terror cults like islam and Christianity.
At the same time, I am throwing light on non-proselytising faiths like Hinduism, Buddhism and Paganism.
October 11th, 2008 at 3:09 am
Deepak Kamat>>>Hinduism is a way of life where one is free to have his own faith>>
I’m not sure if you have heard about a particular caste of Hindu’s called KALLAR(Thieftain—Apologize my intention was not to hurt any community), who has their own way of life creating their own hindu god name as ‘Thief God”. Their job is to steal and they justify their act in the name of God. Do you approve this in the name of Way Of life.., or wish to correct this? If so, as a Hindu,on what basis you would do? As Murphy’s 4th law says “Left to themselves, things will go from Bad to worse”
>>>>Islam and Christianity stand by the terror manuals of Koran and Bible.>>>
Let me know which part of Jesus Christ living/teaching supported terror act? I am curiuos to discuss, if you can head on with a debate.. You can go through the entire Gospels written by Mathew/Mark/Luke/John and present your points. Thanks in advance.
October 12th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Hinduism is a way of life where one is free to have his own faith without troubling others.
Unfortunately, the Semitic faiths don’t think so. Islam and Christianity believe in Dar-ul-Islam and Evangalical world. Islam and Christianity stand by the terror manuals of Koran and Bible. That is why I say that conversion is the base of terrorism.
Where does it say??
First of all, there is no term India before British…Does upanishad metion Pakistan/Srilanka/Myanmar/Nepal will move out Hindustan? The only Hindu kingdom Nepal has already shed its hindu kingdom status.
So which Hindu- India you are imagining off..Some one said earlier,,,,,If so north east/Goa will become Christian country..Punjab a Sikh…Maharshtra will become Marati one…T.N will opt for a Dravidian country, than Hindu.. So whats left ?
October 13th, 2008 at 8:46 am
1. Ignorant converted christians of India, who work as mouthpiece and agents of their western masters (for few penny and other material gains), must visit western countries and see by their own eyes, how and why christians in the west leaving it. Churches becomes empty buildings, and their only existence reminded by hourly ringing or noises of Bells.
2. More and more westeners practicing Yoga, dhyan (meditation), Krishna Consciousness, Vedantic philosophy, and Buddhism. Vegetarianism is fast becoming their life style. Some years ago, it was hard to find vegetarian food in western resturants and shops. Now, vegetarianism has become a hobby and part of life, and found at every resturants and shops.
3. Sanatan dharma and its eternal Vedic philosophy providing peace and happiness to millions across the world.
Here is an example.
http://www.iskcon.com/
http://www.iskcon.com/worldwide/centres/index.html
http://www.asitis.com/ (read Bhagavad Gita)
4. Ignorant convert christians and muslims (99.99% christians and muslims in India are Hindus by culture, by race, by civilization, by way of life…), need to dig-out their roots and return back to mother Sanatan dharma. If you feel any form of discriminations, fight it out. There is no place for discrimination in Sanatan dharma. It is Sanatan, Eternal.
Loka samastha sukhino bhavantu (Let all people be happy, Let entire World be happy).
October 14th, 2008 at 2:54 am
What happened in Mangalore was just the beginning.Most of the christians here work very hard(getting thier ass ripped by horny sheiks) in gulf countries, Come back and show off with their money.But it doesnt stop here they fund these missionaries to force people in remote villages to get converted.I think the recent attacks have jolted them. It actually starts from Rome where tht SOB pope resides
October 14th, 2008 at 3:10 am
>>>Hinduism is a way of life where one is free to have his own faith without troubling others>>
Way of life, Tolerance, accomodating all religion is all just a saying…. We are not talking about demographic/geographical accomodation..
How many of us would like to keep Koran inside a temple, cos we claim to be accomodative?
Tolerance: Had we not resorted to looting/murders just for a handout SatyaDarshini, then its called tolerance.
Way off life: Each one has his way of life.. Hitler/mussolini/stalin too claimed it as their way of life in their national Interest…Can accept this as way off life.. Can we accept the Bajrangi’s rape/murder/looting as way of life..
Guys, first get enlightened about Hinduism…Seek some help of swamiji’s to know about it.
October 14th, 2008 at 4:28 am
>>>Hinduism is a way of life where one is free to have his own faith without troubling others>>
i think you are missing a point here ,since we were very tolerant and showed patience u had to face all these attacks,imagine if we had not shown any of these u would have been wiped out of this country.
October 14th, 2008 at 5:06 am
Hi All,
Here the real reason to discussion/argument is denigration of hindu gods and convertions from christians..both are fact.
This is going on, convertion is taking place everywhere in India. But here in this website people are going out of the way in discussion. One should not discuss that our religion is great, offcourse for a Hindu, Hinduism is great, for a christrian, their religion is great similarly muslim. Follow the respective religion and respect others (christians : If u cant respect, atleast keep quite, dont poke your nose in Hindu culture).
There is a limit for every thing. We had tolerance all these days, but remember, defnitely all hindus will unite and will teach a good lesson to those, who try to spoil our values.
October 14th, 2008 at 5:26 am
SR>>>Here the real reason to discussion/argument is denigration of hindu gods and convertions from christians..both are fact.>>>
How can you say discussion/debate could end up degiration of gods.. if so,
1) Your concept of God is wrong, which make you feel debating would lead to denigration of God.
2) You can not debate logically about God.
3) You perceive that you are the protector of gods, and your idea of gods is that they cannot protect themselves.
4) Your theology/philosphy could be bleak and meek..
>>>One should not discuss that our religion is great, offcourse for a Hindu, Hinduism is great>>
When one can claim our country is great with population, and another country claim great about Olympic medals/Power/Culture etc etc, whats wrong in claiming great about a religion….Remember, religion is the path to reach True God, and we all humans need to continue to pursue to the explore and find the True Path which leads to True God..And its indeed a continuous process ..
>>>We had tolerance all these days,>>>>
So, now you have converted to Islam huh!!!
October 14th, 2008 at 5:39 am
hinduism will have an end because of these goons who try muscle power rather than bhakti.
October 14th, 2008 at 5:44 am
i agree that hinduism has suffered more because of these fanatics than denigration by other sect people. The so called protectors are actually the murderes of our great religion.
They are causing blasphemy to our gods and godesses by their mis-use and dirty actions.
Hindus should shun these rougues like they once did to dalits so that they should be made UN-TOUCHABLES because they have destroyed our belief.
October 14th, 2008 at 6:05 am
THIS IDIOT deepak kamat is a curse to hinduism borne by his mother who had grudge against our hinduism. He is using this hatred campaign so that hinduism would be maligned forever. May be he had sexulal assault in his child hood by poojari or hindu leader (like hitler had on Jews because a jew had kicked him in his childhood)and he is taking revenge by causing a irrepairable damage by making it violent religion devoid of bhakti.
He is a shrap to our faith. He is the real denigrator who has used swamivivekanada’s name to malign him and he must be punished. Dr. ANIL SARDESAI has exposed him by telling what swami vivekanada actually preached and what this dog is doing. Now this napunsaka, (calls self masculine among to women in this blog) has taken off dr. anil sardesai’s views because if every one would read it they would kill this napunsak first who claims he is bachelor by choice which doesn’t seem to be the case. because ordinary people does not behave in such way to denigrate our own sect.
Your end is near deepak kamat now you have been caught in your own net.
October 14th, 2008 at 9:15 am
Sapr333 — I dont want to debate with you kind of people.– you mean to say, whatever these christians do harm to Hindu religion, whatever they print and distribute, sit quite is it? tomorrow if others do the samething to chirstianity..will u b calm?????
if you want to claim about ur religion that it is great..go and claim where ever you want..here nobody wants to listen your useless sayings. And how can you tell that “you have converted to Islam?”.. Think before you write here…
October 14th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
@raghav hegde
You wrote, “THIS IDIOT deepak kamat is a curse to hinduism…” and the filty languages I don’t wish to repeat here.
Your vulger and abusive languge reflects your personal character and the family background.
Keep it up. You will become a great person in future. You can also get rewards from christian missionaries, or perhaps already getting.
You think you are a good and proud Hindu (or perhaps a christian under Hindu name mask). Does your vulger and abusive language reflects your goodness? Ask yourself.
Show to your parents and friends your writings, they will be proud of you. Think before putting words on internet, they are exposing your low quality and low self-esteem.
If you can, counter others opinions with reasoned opinions. Else, don’t destroy yourself. Thats my suggestion. Take it or leave it.
October 14th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
SR>>>you mean to say, whatever these christians do harm to Hindu religion, whatever they print and distribute, sit quite is it?>>>
Dont sit quite against a handout of SatyaDarshini…Have you heard of Adi-Sankara’s great debate..Follow it..Use your intellectual/philosophical mind to debate and prove it wrong,instead of resorting to rape/torching/murder in Bajarangi way!! I have rarely seen any one in this forum, to give a counter arguments to Satyadarshini, except for abusing missionaries..
>>how can you tell that “you have converted to Islam?”.. >>>
Your idea of Countering Christians with killing and rape made me to feel,that you could have converted to Islam or Hinduism is going the Islamic way with the help of Bajrangi’s..Nothing more..
October 14th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
@ Bharath,
Did my offensive language hurt you?. Then just think of it that how much it must have hurt when innocent people were burnt alive by thses fanatics.
I am just giving taste of their own medicine. when it happens to you it hurts and to others , doesn’n matter right?.Be content that i have just used abusive language only in writing where as thses butchers have instgated so many murders, burnt people alive, raped women, kicked pregnat women on their stomachs. And do you vouch for this hijda community?. If you do so, you are also one among them .
Dont call those who oppose you as non hindus or pseudo secularists. I love my religion and are faithful to it. These fake warroiors are REAL denigrators of hinduism because they have mis-used our gods to suit their agenda of hatred and that is why i used the language they righly deserve.