Proof of Christian complicity in abusing Hindu Gods in Mangalore
Dear all,
These are the scanned copy of Satyadarshini — the book denigrating Hindu gods distributed by the missionaries of New Life.
We have the entire copy. Just a few pages containing the choicest abuses of Hindu Gods have been scanned and given to all, as I received a lot of requests for the original documents.
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October 29th, 2008 at 2:57 am
Easwar,Thanks for the interesting post..
1)All three logics are contradicting to each other. So I would ask you, which one you would choose, to set the base for our debate!!
2)Regarding your analogy door/table, it would be more appealing if you make an analogy with Carpenter-Door-Dining table..
3) Of the three, where do you fit Brahma(creator) ?
Upon your response, will put my post..
October 29th, 2008 at 10:50 am
door & table made from ooshath Plant or tree which comes with the basis of earth …. please see my earlier post i can duplicate again purusha made out of food its a food body Annath purusha ha… purusha also comes from earth… so immidiate sathiya vasthu is earth… it goes so on to mana ha… Its not eashwar’s but rishis….
October 29th, 2008 at 11:34 am
q. does the wood become the table or door by itself?
October 29th, 2008 at 11:35 am
or does the door and table “think of thenselves as door and table.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:36 am
and if they did what is the purpose?
October 29th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Easwar-TRICHY>>Its not eashwar’s but rishis….>>
Listen Easwar, we are here on a debate to explore ‘True God’. So, for me ,your own view on Rishis/Vedas/Christ/Buddha doesnt matter..We, as a human being gonna evaluate it.. I would not ask you to accept Jesus as Saviour, just because Holy Bible says so.. But I would definitely ask you to logically,Philosphically,metaphysically think/analyse and evaluate about it, with the help of freewill given by God.
So while taking to me, please do have that approach! Thanks.
PS: I was expecting to my reponse on ‘Rooting of Morals on God” and you have to clarify your ‘Concept of God”..awaiting
October 29th, 2008 at 11:48 am
He is saying his concept is “brahaman”… the same deception of changing the “plate” when you don’t have any answer. Brahman the Nirguna Parabrahman.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Easwar>>door & table made from ooshath Plant or tree which comes with the basis of earth …. please see my earlier post i can duplicate again purusha made out of food its a food body >>>
Thanks for your response,though I feel, its pretty not relevant. I have just asked three questions and numbered it too.. Can you respond to them as per the sequence, so that I wont get confused..Thanks.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:55 am
LET THE SO-CALLED CHRISTIANS FIRST FIND WHETHER
MOTHER MARY IS THE WIFE OR MOTHER OF JESUS CHRIST.
AND HOW THE “NEW TESTAMENT” WAS COMPILED AND ALSO WHO WERE THE WISEMEN FROM EAST WHO FOLLOWED THE STAR.
AS PER NEW TESTAMENT IT IS A COMPILATION OF SEVERAL BOOKS WRITTEN BY DIFFERANT AUTHORS AT DIFFERANT TIMES ( 200 -300YRS). AND THE WISE FROM EAST WERE
BUDDHIST MONKS AND FINALLY MOTHER MARY IS ACTUALLY A EGYPTION PAGAN GOD.
NOW I WILL EXPLAIN WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED AFTER THE FIRST JESUS CHRIST WAS EXECUTED ON THE CROSS BY THE ROMANS. JESUS CHRIST CULT WAS REVIVED WHEN A DIFFERANT PERSON WHO TOOK ON THE ROMANS AND DEFEATED THEM THEY MADE HIM THE MESSENGER OF GOD UNFORTUNATELY HE WAS KILLED BY ROMANS.THEN THE DILLUSIONED ROMANS STARTED PRAYING MOTHER MARY AN EGPYTION DEITY AND THIS CULT BECAME POPULAR.
FINALLY ONE MORE MESSENGER OF GOD IE..THE JESUS WHO HAD A GIRL FRIEND MARY MADGELINE AND A FEW FOLLOWERS HE BECAME POPULAR WITH THE JEWS.
kING SOLOMAN( ..I THINK IT SHOULD BE HIM) A ROMAN KING HAD A VISION THAT IF HE GOES TO WAR WITH THE CROSS HE WILL WIN THE WAR AND HE WON THE WAR WHEN HE WENT TO WAR WITH A CROSS.
AND THIS KING ASKED THE FOLLOWERS OF THESE SEVERAL CULTS WRITE A HOLY BOOK AND THIS BOOK IS CALLED “NEW TESTAMENT” THE BIBLE OF THE ROMAN CATHOLICS.
CONCLUSION THE BIBLE IS A THIRD RATE HOLY BOOK , AND THE HOLY MEN WERE BUDDHIST AN OFSHOOT OF HINDUISM.
FINALLY THE SO CALLED CHRISTIANS WERE ACTUALLY A SET OF WILD PEOPLE WHO WERE REFORMED BY HINDUISM.
HOLY MAHABHARAT AND RAMAYAN ARE WRITTEN BY VYASA
AND VALMIKI AND FINALLY NOBODY DOUBTS WHAT IS RAM TO SITA.CAN BIBLE EVER MATCH BHAGVAD GEETHA?
NOTE: INFORMATION WRITTEN ON CHRISTIANITY IS FROM “NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL” AND “HISTORY CHANNEL” AND IT IS NOT IMAGINATION
October 29th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Emmarcee>>He is saying his concept is “brahaman”… the same deception of changing the “plate” when you don’t have any answer. Brahman the Nirguna Parabrahman.>>
Its very obvious, when confronted with questions on social aspects, Hindus’ would find shelter in ‘Way OFF Life”.. And when you dig “Way of life” philosphically/theologically, one would take shelter in ‘MAYA’(you have to google about it).. MAYA , and illusion, or Hallucination, which is widely accepted in Hindu Scriptures that god Shiva was hallucinated by marijuana, like our Rishi’s of Himalayas..
The point here is Hinduism is complex(not on positive note).. rather its confused, dying to patch the pot holes,when questioned..
October 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
SHANKARA>>THE JESUS WHO HAD A GIRL FRIEND MARY MADGELINE AND A FEW FOLLOWERS HE BECAME POPULAR WITH THE JEWS.>>
The whole of your post could be proved wrong by this single liner..
Jesus Christ was not popular among Jews..Infact, its the Jews who plotted him to kill. And even now, Jews were not Christians,and they do not accept Jesus Christ as the one revealed by God to humans.. Please present your facts clearly..
October 29th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
WAS JESUS REALLY BORN TO A VIRGIN ?C’MON GUYS YOU EXPECT US TO BELIEVE THIS.
EVEN IF IT SO THEN ALL THE CHRISTIANS ARE FOLLOWERS OF A BASTARD AND BASTARDS ARE LEGITIMATE AS PER CHRISTIANITY AND THESE PEOPLE TEACH MORALITY TO HINDUS.
CHRISTIANS ARE A MINORITY IN FRANCE AND MOST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES AND ISLAM IS ON THE RISE.
WHAT ABOUT PAEDOPHLES AND HOMOSEXUALS IN CHRISTIANITY ?
October 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
EASWAR>>door & table made from ooshath Plant or tree which comes with the basis of earth …. please see my earlier post i can duplicate again purusha made out of food its a food body Annath purusha ha… purusha also comes from earth… so immidiate sathiya vasthu is earth… it goes so on to mana ha… Its not eashwar’s but rishis….>>
So your concept of God is all limited to this earth!! its all centred around plants/food..Good you have moved out of Hindustan boundary to define your idea of gods.
What if an Extra Terrestial creature comes and tells you, look we dont need food/tree/plants, and tells you that, I am myself, and I am a god of myself and god is within me, and keeps on raping and murdering all!!! Would you find that ET doing right things according to MAYA or condemn him?
October 29th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
Babu>>WAS JESUS REALLY BORN TO A VIRGIN ?>>
This is a Dogma, and is well prophecised in early Jeudo-Christian traditions, and is scripted in Koran too. Like an aetheist, if you dont believe in ‘Powers Beyond Us’ then, sure, I would welcome you to have a focussed debate on this, with me
>>>CHRISTIANS ARE A MINORITY IN FRANCE AND MOST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES AND ISLAM IS ON THE RISE.
Though census/statistics dont agree with your statment, I really appreciate FRENCH men for respecting religious freedom. Will ISLAMIC countries stop beheading the converts and start respecting the basic rights of a human being to pursue his individual faith?
>>>>WHAT ABOUT PAEDOPHLES AND HOMOSEXUALS IN CHRISTIANITY ?
Where Christianity approves it? (Check your grammer)According to the teachings of Jesus Christ, you,all Christians and I should join together and condemn it.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
How about asking our own mothers first if we were born to the so called father. Once we come to agreement on that may be we should start talking about “Godly Things”.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Shankara>>kING SOLOMAN( ..I THINK IT SHOULD BE HIM) A ROMAN KING HAD A VISION THAT IF HE GOES TO WAR WITH THE CROSS HE WILL WIN THE WAR AND HE WON THE WAR WHEN HE WENT TO WAR WITH A CROSS.>>
Shankara, possibly, Adi Sankar too would have twisted the facts like you and got an oppportunity to exterminated buddhism..
Anyways, for your knowledge sake, KING SOLOMON was some 20 generations before Jesus Christ, The King Of Peace & Love.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
EMMARCEE>>>How about asking our own mothers first if we were born to the so called father. Once we come to agreement on that may be we should start talking about “Godly Things>>
EMMARCEE, requesting you not to respond in the Saffronic way!! You should not stoop to the level of Hanuman Brigade level..Thanks
October 29th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
These haters would like to interject the notion that Christians are all bastards, right? May be we should all stop here and go ask our mothers. Hindus were not behind in polygamy. So some of thier mothers may not be able to give the exact answer.
mary’s virgin birth is such a redundant question. There is no real answer to that except for having faith in the “word” as retold by the witnesses. It is not like somebody was walking around Jesus and writing down everything he did. His miracles and healings when walking on this earcth and his sacrifce on the cross is much important than the so called “virgin Birth”. We don’t believe in Him becasue he had a vrigin birth. WE BELIEVE HIM BECAUSE HE IS STILL LIVING, unlike Puranic gods who died and never came back.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:11 am
Sapr.333
“so your concept of God is all limited to this earth!! its all centred around plants/food..Good you have moved out of Hindustan boundary to define your idea of gods”
please go thro. once again if one has got knowledge and receivable level only can understand. I will not waste my time once again… Am not doing any preching here I have no business to do that… not leader and not require any cardre… Athiathmiga start from self looking everthing from our end is gyana.. making difference is aggyana… I dont have any wrong opinion with you but you will know when time comes…
Agasath vayu hu ; vayur agni hi; agnir apaha ; athiya prithivi ; prithiviya oosha mayaha; oosha thipyoo annam ; annath purusha ;….. purush annarasamaya ha……..
At the time of birth our wieght is like 3kg now it must be minimum 55 to 70 kg right how we became. food .. correct
when baby carried by mother it puts weight cos of mother consume food which goes to it. Hence this body come cos of food. so purushan (means human+all creature-as per indian discovery) is nothing made out of food body- everyone is food body.
Food comes from ooshath (plants) it grows cos of prithivi- prithivi(earth) cos of water- water cos of agni- agni cos of vayu (if no air then no agni) vayu cos of agash vaccum.. So its clear that we all come from agash which is nothing so nothing creates mahath everthing correct.
All human& animal body is made out of food. food comes with the base of plants, plants comes with the base of earth, further earth with the base of water ( even our local science say from water became earth ) water comes with base of agni- agni comes with the base of vayu (air) vayu comes with the base of agash vaccum. this is how evolution has started as per rigveda that is wat veda hymn reveals. you can read the hymn if you are indian you can very well understand. Till this our local sciece understand) further veda say that from agash created by mana ha. Mind only create this agash -sutshama creates sthula (image or visible facts). Every action its taking place becouse of our mind. becouse you and me has diffrences that why all action here is taking place through our mind. If there is no difference there will be no action in the world. we can say by gravitation force. without gravitation no earth sun, even farther mother, son mother, friends, relatives natations… everything meet in one point that gravitation or equilibrium
Agasath vayu hu ; vayur agni hi; agnir apaha ; athiya prithivi ; prithiviya oosha mayaha; oosha thipyoo annam ; annath purusha ;….. purush annarasamaya ha……..
I also quote pot… when it broke you cant show the image of pot .. image of pot is a creation name also given by yourself only … like that one has to reserch in athiathmiga if dont interest dont abuse … try to unite…
I say that we are ready to pray jesus too will cristian ready to come to temple becouse name is difference yet god and power as you mention always going to be same… differences is within us not to god.. if god also got differences then its not at all god… if this is correct let us all unite not to divide by name of god…
Sathiyameva Jayathey..
October 30th, 2008 at 1:41 am
Eawar, I do agree with the Philosphical view of “Every thing is Food”..Similarly, there were also some ancient greek philosohies, which said, “Every thing is water & Fire” etc etc. But we should also understand, that there are some higher level of philosophies.
Now the point here is, Whats/Who is God and what his nature could be?
The point we are discussing about is, your 3 concepts of God.. Let me take this:-Athvaitham: There is nothing secon thing there must be one thing in the world. There is no difference between god and yourself ofcourse you are the creater of all
If we and God are same, then what control we have for wrongs? Its I do a mistake,then its God’s mistake only..And if we take it as MAYA, then on what basis we can condemn the acts of Mussolini/Hitler?
PS: I am not just blindly arguing, I am also equally attemption to understand your points, with open heart
>>I say that we are ready to pray jesus too will cristian ready to come to temple becouse name is difference yet god and power as you mention always going to be same>>
I believe God the supreme is the same and one…To reach the God there should be a right path..If someone says, com’on lets reach God by sex(Osho) or by killing infidely, will you go and do that rituals, just because you are accomodative to all concepts. There is even a particular sect in Christianity “Mormons’ which promotes sex within family and polygamy..Will you go and pray with them with the act of sexual indulgence..
If you really want Christians to pray to hindu gods, then you should convince/dialogue to find the common theology. But definitely it will be contradicting, esp when Karma/forgiveness of Sins are questioned, which you will not give up. Otherwise, you praying in a Church itself will have no meaning.
We are pursuing our hearts feeling.. Our hearts and communion with God will not change just because we visit holy places of other religions.
PS; I must have visited lot more temples than you..Yes, with the taste of Art not spirituality.
October 30th, 2008 at 6:38 am
sapr333,
From your word i will try to explain you say some common theology, who will give god or yourself when you have difference within you cant abuse others. certainly never would have come and told you that you are cristian or hindu thus you got to stict to jesus or krish. Its that we are following it is our duty to get gyan.. You and i cant change the world and if we try then we are fool. when we are not able to control self. Let us give up differences then think of others….
today i have no time some time eve meet u
October 30th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Sapr33
“Now the point here is, Whats/Who is God and what his nature could be?”
You are not in a position to agree – sprituval also education got to go by steps, one cant jump to 5th floor.. Thats why i said level of pray.. ie thuvaitha.. visishtathuvaitha.. and athvaitha…
God cant be difference from you if god is creater you are one of the part of it.
Agasath pathitham thoyam yatha kachathu saharam sarvatheva namaskaraha kesavam prithikachathu… Narayana Upnishad..
How channel water, river water, ditch water is diiferent when its river its called yamuna ganga & kothawari,couvery all these river joins to sea its called sea no where river has been remember. Like wise which ever way you take certainly every one will reach to god, There is no difference from god and you. Only you have to get( botham) gynam by realaize. This cant be express by words one has to exprience if a explain about sun to blind I have to say only sun is hot.. rest he cant realize unless untill he sees the world that is exprience…Dont abuse anything everthing is part of god,, even all this religion is created by him only ..according to people mentality and will its suit that is all. every religion is groomed/cultured according to particular place. In arabia 6 marriage is allowed b cos earlier they married 100 also now to minimise and to control they fix 6 marrige. but same will not be applicable to india or some other country…
Karma theory…
If you have children of three .. say ram,paul&rahim ,,, one children by calling ram it will come any obey father mother and do the work, Next children they have scold and beat him only it will hear,, but last one even beat also it will also beat mother and run away and continues his play… is it there in the world.. Now you tell me mother will give more attention to which children..first , second or last ..obivously last one becouse he is to be made to the level of he expected. Like wise god also will have more mercy towards people who Ignorance .. so god will give chance to him …
January 7th, 2009 at 8:47 am
You have to understand that the “New Life” is a religious group by itself and is not a Roman Catholic group. They have not been approved by the Roman Catholic Church nor are they affiliated to it in any way. They have their own teachings which none of us (Roman Catholics) approve of and in their own way are trying to convert us too. Unfortunately in your blindness you have gone and burnt, murdered and raped Roman Catholic Churches, priests and nuns and beaten, killed and scarred innocent Roman Catholics – and that is what does not make sense. Please read the first line of this report – it deals with missionaries of the New Life and has nothing to do with us.
January 19th, 2009 at 4:29 am
Infact jesus himself was the son of a whore called virgin mary. Somebody fucked her but she didn’t tell anybody and when his leacher and lustful son was born everybody believed that she has given virgin birth.
Later jeseus married his prostitute mother and many children were born who later became the disciples of christ.
Christianity teaches sex, incest, lust, greed as virtues and this is wht we see in Europe and USA today.
January 19th, 2009 at 4:32 am
Mr. Ernest Cordeiro, don’t try to befool us. We know very well what the real intentions of you Christians are. To convert the whole world to a false and fabricated religion called Christianity. I would rather be a dog or a pig than a christian. How is your so-called son of God is better than Gandhi. If jesus died for others then so the Mahatma and for far more no. of people. The false book bible teaches that jesus is the son of God and Hinduism says every creature is son of God.
So which religion is inferior?
January 31st, 2009 at 2:23 am
I always find something usefull here. Keep up the good work, its really appreciated.
August 8th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Its very obvious, when confronted with questions on social aspects, Hindus’ would find shelter in ‘Way OFF Life”.. And when you dig “Way of life” philosphically/theologically, one would take shelter in ‘MAYA’(you have to google about it).. MAYA , and illusion, or Hallucination, which is widely accepted in Hindu Scriptures that god Shiva was hallucinated by marijuana, like our Rishi’s of Himalayas..
The point here is Hinduism is complex(not on positive note).. rather its confused, dying to patch the pot holes,when questioned..
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Sapr,
You have done a lot of missionary propagation on this site in the name of exploring god’s nature, etc, etc, with the typical selected few yardsticks of evaluatiing things.
I have a few suggestions for you (esp wrt to a topic as vast as ‘maya’):
1) If you do not know, don’t compare.
2) If you know little, don’t compare.
3) If you understand ‘it’ (maya) throughly, you will not compare.
4) If you do not know, don’t make ignorant comments about maya as hallucination. Christians often say they hear voices, to some they are considered ‘hallucinations’ too. Your understanding of maya may suit such people.
5) If you don’t know, don’t make ignorant comments that shiva was hallucinated by marijuana and even worse, make that comment in the context of a topic such as maya.
6) If you have decided you want to compare only select things, be honest about it.
7) If you have decided you want to do typical padri missionary work on the internet by pretending to talk things about the ‘nature of god’, be honest about it.
Always remember, islam and christianity are not native to the indian soil. If missionaries want to co-exist, they can; but don’t try to snuff out and erase native cultures under the pretense and pretext of ‘god work’. First and foremost, ask all churches of all denominations to stop false propaganda on hindusim, making insulting statements on hindu gods and goddess, and creating communal rifts.
Regards,
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