ADVICE TO INDIAN ENGLISH MEDIA
Don’t dunk your head in sand like an ostrich. Everybody knows your anti-Hindu nature.
1. First and foremost, stop thinking of yourself as “enlightened”. You are also born of woman. You are also no different from the man on the street. In fact, in Swami Vivekananda’s words, you are no less then parasites and traitors who having been brought up at the countrymen’s expense pay the least heed to them.
2. Learn to respect the virtues of Hinduism. Also make it a point to learn Sanskrit. If you don’t know Sanskrit, you can never appreciate the beauty of Hinduism. Remember, it is not just a question of language. It is a question of a paradigm shift.
3. Learn to cultivate intellectual honesty.
4. Don’t be one-sided.
5. When a Hindu is caught in criminal activities, it is Hindu terrorism. When a Muslim is caught in terrorist activities, terrorists do not have a religion. Stop this hypocrisy. See things as it is. Samasatti.
6. Stop terming Hindus as illiterate barbarians steeped in superstitions. There are Hindus steeped in wisdom too.
7. In your bid to be progressive, also stop a while to look back and appreciate your glorious heritage. And for heaven’s sake, don’t call me a jingoist.
8. Realise that pseudosecularism and communism are dead as a mutton.
9. Hinduism is alive and kicking. Try to find out the secrets of the world’s oldest surviving civilization.
10. Remember, if not for Hinduism, we would have been stuck in the medieval ages with Koran and Bible as our textbooks.
Finally, I am well aware that those who need advice the most listen to it the least. Yes, I know that the anti-Hindu English Media in India is incorrigible. So I am all set for a historical corrective.
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February 5th, 2009 at 2:31 am
Go stuff your advice into ur mothers’ arse.
Because the curse is on her for giving you birth you spineless coward.
First test yourself at mental ward of kankanadi hospital when you call your coward co-brothers as heroes when they show their manliness by beating up women and you support them by blaming jehadis.
get treated and be good.
February 5th, 2009 at 2:36 am
This coward kamat should be kicked out of mangalore and should be parcelled to taliban to get treated by them for they are the best to show him what is media all about and may take him as a reporter in Dawn or al-zazira.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:00 am
>>>>ADVICE TO INDIAN ENGLISH MEDIA>>>
Orange orangs expects the media to glorify Naturam Godse/ Modi and savarkar..
I think once people get English education, they really starts questioning the classic forms.. The strategy of missionay education is brining results now..
Can parivar promote a new Sanskrit media? And will there be any takers?
February 5th, 2009 at 3:09 am
english education is bad and sanskrit is best.
but the joke is
the blogger had to write in english…
he he he ..!
fool who had clicked foto of self and shows to the world how intelligent he is.!!!
what he needs is kick on his butt because he would’nt know who has kicked him.
(english or sanskrit blogger)
February 5th, 2009 at 3:13 am
he wants to be praised for this picture.
but bloggers dont’ delay..lest dogs r on their way to lift their leg on him.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:15 am
jaanaki
February 5th, 2009 at 3:13 am
he wants to be praised for this picture.
but bloggers dont’ delay..lest dogs r on their way to lift their leg on him.
GOOD JOKE INDEED. BUT ARE THE DOGS COMING TO PISS OR FOR TO RAPE THIS IDIOT?
February 5th, 2009 at 3:57 am
These E-media which is Ani-Hindu , can go gaga over the false and irreverent issues. But they can not change the ground reality
E.g during last Gujarat Election, till last moment all most all the Media interpreted that Modi is bad hence he will loose the election
-Hope every one remember this. But things are not in the hands of Media. people of this country are not fools they know what is right and what is wrong.
Take a recent example of Managlore. what ever these EMedia cries, is there any change will happen from that, No not at all
Because average Mangloren do not wants their children to spoil because of these pub-culture.
These so call national E-media’s have to give importance to those issue which is relevant to the Nation not to a particular Pub.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:09 am
>>>Because average Mangloren do not wants their children to spoil because of these pub-culture.>>>
Mangalore is a part of Karnataka State right!.. If pub culture is prevelant among Blore and in all districts of kanna, whats your isolation about Mangalore?
Overall , I find Kannadiga’s are fairly nice and accomodate with all cultures including pub culture.. Whats the problem in M’lore? Why the Rama/Shiva’s sena’s are not creating issue in Bangalore?
February 5th, 2009 at 4:44 am
Locals in Mangalore has given their Complaint to Sri Ramsene about illegal activity in the pub. So on moral grounds Sri Ramasene did this which is very appreciable (Still i disagree with the way they handle the girls). But over all what ever they did is appreciable.
Similarly if any one in Bangalore or any other place in India is having feel that any pubs are engaging with illegal activities – I am sure Sri Ramasene will take action to safe guard Indian culture, Hindu Culture.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:16 am
Suresh Bhat>>>Locals in Mangalore has given their Complaints to Sri Ramsene about illegal activity in the pub.>>
MOLESTATION IN THE NAME OF gOD rama….
So these bunch of uneducated Ramsene goons can take law in their own hands…is it!!..
What stops from approaching the Police ? Its the same rama’s sena’s own BJP is ruling Karnataka Right!!!
Tomorrow, SIMI/Jehadi’s too will drop bombs in the pub where women are boozing….Will that be OK with you..
February 5th, 2009 at 5:21 am
>>>> I am sure Sri Ramasene will take action to safe guard Indian culture, Hindu Culture>>
So Rama’s sena will bring back the old hindu culture huh!!..
Soon we may find bottled SomaPana in all liquor shops and cow-urine in all medical shops~~~
Men willl be permitted to marry as many women as per old hindu culture.
License for untouchablity/discrimination and deny education to non-brahmins.
Devdasi’s will be recruited to dance in temples again..
Now, British is no-more here to ban them right!! You can bring back your glorious days, with the help of Yeddi!!
February 5th, 2009 at 5:40 am
Just Like immoral, bloody Emedia People are comparing Sriramasene with Simi and Jihadi out fits-
Can we compare those christen Youths who attacked police in mangalore During Church crises recently to SIMI adn JIHADI out fits..???
In those missionaries nuns were raped and killed by priest– Can we name it as rapist missionaries ??
Here problem is not Sri Ramasene Attacked … but the problem is many people do not like BJP Government. No One thought that BJP will come to power in Karnataka.
So far People have blamed Mr. Modi and his state is number one in India for progress. He shuts his critics ugly and smelly mouth.
Now these critics wants to open their smelly ugly mouth against Yedurappa.. I am sure Yedurappa will show how BJP’s ideology will go towards progress..
February 5th, 2009 at 5:43 am
Why Congress lost power in Karnataka????
For Answer Please go though the following Link ” LOL”
http://www.daijiworld.com/chan/view_img1.asp?cid=2453
February 5th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Dear Mr.Kamat,
I appreciate your efforts and energy to go with your belief and ideology.Its a course of nature and matter of time that you live in a world/society that i live.I could see different people in this world coming with lot of “ism” and “sena” for thier convenience.You also want to see the world of your convenience as every other person in the world.The problem happen when one side forces thier way stamping other side.The world is never the same as it is at any point of past.If any one try to bull dose thier way they will get the equal amount of reaction.Because laws of nature is the same,whether its defined by ancient wisdom or modern science.So be careful while selecting the path and defining the theories.Equilibrium is the most seeked natural phenomenon.Don’t disturb it.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:57 am
This Kamath is a nut case.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:02 am
Like ‘Smoking Ban’, can YEDDI put a ban on ‘Kissing Ban in PUB’s”
I think that would save and protech the endangered Hindu culture..
Soon a bill should be passed in Assembly..
February 5th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Good job all of you… carry on! Now take your anti-Hinduism and show it right up your ass from where it came from!
February 5th, 2009 at 6:41 am
” MOLESTATION IN THE NAME OF gOD rama….”
Get your facts right. there wasn’t any molestation.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:58 am
“Soon we may find bottled SomaPana in all liquor shops and cow-urine in all medical shops~~~
Somarasa was not a part of preaching in Hinduism. Its just what people did. And Gomutra is actually good for your health. Even I don’t drink it. But it is proven to have miraculous medicinal power.
Devdasi’s will be recruited to dance in temples again..”
Its a form of entertainment. Even men danced. You are just posting that to convey your that hinduism was full of sex. So according to you dancing is bad is it?
License for untouchablity/discrimination and deny education to non-brahmins.
There was no such thing.
“Men willl be permitted to marry as many women as per old hindu culture.”
Even women married many men and thats not a part of culture. Hinduism doesn’t ask people to marry many times and all people of that age weren’t morally right. Thats the reason why God had to take birth many times and set the ideals.
And with all that justification, I am not saying bring back the same old thing as it is(We don’t actually know how exactly it was except some blind speculation by people whose intentions are just to prove by any means that Hinduism is an evil religion). Let us be modern and coexist. We are just against the wrong happenings on Hindus. Let us be modern in the sense taking all the essense of modern values. Not Pubs, Bars etc.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:25 am
@ Harsh,
Nice joke.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Dear fellow christian posters on this blog
what mr kamat says makes sense. ELM is total nonsense. except for elites and christians in India nobody reads ELM. Hindus locally read their regional or local newsletters which are honest to the core. You cant be in Rome wishing what should happen in Mangalore. Rome is burning because of Racism, did you hear latest news from Italy? Mangalore people will do what they like. Mangalore parents dont want their daughters to become objects of Jehadi sex or later female suicide bombers. Male suicide bombers get 72 virgins what do females get?
ok we are supporting this pub culture because when mind is weak and intoxicated we can convert and make them soldiers of christ. But jesus would not approve of that. That is the design of church. Church is doing exactly opposite of Jesus wanted. Supporting jehadis because they belong to abrahamnic fold is also bad idea. It’s all a big mistake.
Simon and Emmarcee are you guys listening?
Are you still having heads in the sand like that foto?
Save yourself for Jesus sake.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:53 am
I didn’t get what joke you are talking about.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Boy looks like the JNU and ‘progressive liberal’ types have infilterated here heh Deepak? What with all those peeved responses. Truth is bitter and that adage is proved true yet again. Can’t handle the truth, yell it down, a standard JNU, Marxist, Macaulite tactic. The more they are faced with the truth, the more shrill they get.
Worry not Deepak, the irritated and rude responses from the Macauly types proves the truth in your blog post. Keep up the good work.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Simon mone
More christian culture means perverted sex culture. I live in USA and here SEX has taken horrible route.
Girls as young as 8 are getting pregnant. Girls in college try sex with other girls and becoming lesbians by choice. Women are doing it with Women because they hate men. Men are doing it with men because they cannot manage women. If that gets boring then there is all night orgy with 10 men and women all fucking each other in various holes. Sometimes they do it with animals sometimes with objects. Everyday there is news that some bishop or cardinal or priest is having sex with minor boys or girls.
It’s very horrible horrible here. Same thing gets exported where soldiers of christ go. what is happening in Goa and Mangalore is trend of this Christian Sex Culture which Jehadis are using. Why should Church support Jehadis?
February 5th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Simon mone
Here there is a joke, sad but true.
All the donations collected by church as ‘tithe’ is saved for two purposes. 50% goes to places like India to convert and another 50% is saved for lawsuits coming out of bishop or cardinal or priest is having sex with minor boys or girls. So church plays defence in west and offense in east.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:33 am
>>>Soon we may find bottled SomaPana in all liquor shops and cow-urine in all medical shops~~~
Harsh Responds>>>Somarasa was not a part of preaching in Hinduism. Its just what people did.>>>
Even pub drinking was not mentioned in Hindu scriptures. But people like Shiva/rama sena wants to ban it, cos beer partying is against Indian cutlure… Im sure you would agree with me SomaPana is Indian culture..
>>>You are just posting that to convey your that hinduism was full of sex. So according to you dancing is bad is it?>>>
No.But according to protectors of Shiva,Rama and Indian culture, disco and valentine day is Bad…Even the blog ownner Deepak conveys the same…
Deepak Responds>>>@ Harsh,
Nice joke.>>>
Hope you got where the problem is!!!
February 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Amy>>>what mr kamat says makes sense. ELM is total nonsense. except for elites and christians in India nobody reads ELM>>>
Its true Indian Christians read ELM (English Ling Media)…Reason.. They command the highest literacy in India!! Thanks to the missionary education, in a country, and in a time, when Non-Brahmins were forbidden the educational rights..
Now, Imagine our country without English..You cannot host a webpage…No I.T boom… We would only be having Gurukuls and living a tribal life… Is that what you want, possibly, a Rama Rajya!!! You can have it, but dont expect others to be in your way, in the name of Hinduism or Indian nationalism
February 5th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Amy>>More christian culture means perverted sex culture. I live in USA and here SEX has taken horrible route.
Girls as young as 8 are getting pregnant. Girls in college try sex with other girls and becoming lesbians by choice.>>>
Identifying Religion with culture/nationalism is a Hindu problem, and no other religion in the world does that.. If you find american kids are getting pregnant without wedlock, then , the person cannot be a true christian, cos he goes against the teachings of ‘Jesus Christ’.. Where is the question of culture here..
Possibly, that kind of clouts will fit well in to Islam & Hinduism , which accepts Polygamy and Pedophile.. gods of hinduism and prophet of islam did those acts..
February 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Pale Fires Don’t Scorch
Deviants of Mangalore and Malegaon are demonised fallaciously
FRANCOIS GAUTIER
Outlook India
February 09, 2009
When I began reporting, I went to interview the RSS leadership in Delhi, expecting, from what I had heard, a few bloodthirsty fascists. I was surprised to meet those old daddies with their long khaki shorts, who would not hurt a fly. Twenty-five years later, the word ‘Hindu Talibanisation’ is being heard amidst the clamour following the odious pub episode in Mangalore. Such incidents should be condemned, as it has no precedent in Indian history—from Prithviraj Chauhan to Shivaji, Hindus respected the women of even their enemies. Yet, I beg to disagree: this is not about the Talibanisation of Hindu groups, it is about their demonisation.
British colonisers in league with the Christian missionaries realised 200 years ago that the biggest obstacle to fully subjugating India was Hinduism, as it was ancient, woven into the fabric of life and held the country together. They set upon defaming Hinduism, by dwelling on what they perceived as its negatives: castes, sati, superstition, etc. Simultaneously, they created in a span of two or three generations a class of Indians who looked up only to the West.
Macaulay, the architect of the scheme, summed it up in his Minute on Education: “We must do our best to form a class of persons, Indians in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, in morals and in intellect.” Macaulay despised Indian culture: “Hindus have a literature of small intrinsic value, hardly reconcilable with morality, full of monstrous superstitions….” The demonisation of Hinduism was apace.
As a result, these Anglicised Indians became ashamed of their own culture. This Western/anti-Hindu outlook was handed down from generation to generation, right down to our age, where many of India’s brilliant and articulate Hindu-Marxist intellectuals, products all of institutions like jnu, or St Stephen’s, keep on repeating, as if by rote, what their hoary forebears were taught by the British. And unfortunately, they pass it back to their friends from the West, neatly marking a full circle. How else could a film like Slumdog Millionaire, made by an Englishman, which literally craps on India from the very first frame, be feted by most of India’s intelligentsia? How else could India specialists like Christophe Jaffrelot peddle to his gullible French readers the spurious theory that there is a “Hindu tradition of terror”?
Politically, the Congress just took over from the British, as I explain in my new book (A New History of India, 2008, Har Anand), and used its English-speaking press to present Hindu social and political parties as fanatical and ridiculous. The goal was to corner the Muslim vote, which was—and still remains—achieved. It does not help today that the supreme leader of India is a Christian. Whether her aides or her ministers (many of them capable people in their own right) rush to gratify her in true bhakti spirit or whether she directly speaks her will, one does not know. But what better way to please her than by equating Hindu fundamentalism with the Muslim one and to turn the flak on to small Hindu outfits which are amateur lambs compared to the Islamic ones?
There are two standards today used by India’s media and intelligentsia. One for minorities and the other for Hindus. It is totally illogical: if 4,00,000 Hindus are hounded out of the Kashmir Valley which has always been their home, nobody protests; but New Delhi has been rooting for Palestinians for four decades and recently donated a million dollars for their welfare. When blast after blast wrecks Indian markets, when trains are bombed, hotels attacked by men worse than animals, intellectuals blame it on Babri Masjid (where nobody was killed) or Gujarat (triggered by the burning of 59 innocent Hindus).But when a few Hindus plan to establish a Hindu rashtra and plot a clumsy, small-scale revenge, they are equated with deadly fundamentalists. A universal theorem is made of their single act, which should stand out as isolated, because Hindus have been for thousands of years tolerant to the point of cowardice. Our intellectuals never theorised when, in Kashmir, militants used to throw acid on women who did not cover up, but now devote reams to the goons of Mangalore.
Finally, to be fair, one has to say that a lot of prudishness has seeped into India because of the Islamic purdah and, later, Victorian stuffiness. Yet, Hinduism always enjoined its adherents to live life fully, including its sexual aspect. We do not want an Indian youth which blindly apes the West: drinking, drugs and promiscuity. But the Hindu political leadership should also shun rough, prudish and moralistic acts which will only alienate its young voters.
(Francois Gautier is the editor-in-chief of the Paris-based La Revue l’Inde)
February 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Simon mone
You are mixing everything somarasa with whiskey with jin with runm with cow urine and talking gibberish.
See what you have done to dalit christians. You promised them heaven after conversion and now they are not the same under god inside church.
http://www.dalitchristians.com/Html/Discrimination.htm
hope jesus will save you from eternal damnation.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Simon mone
——no other religion in the world does that————-
what gibberish are you talking? Do you think hindus are fools to believe your nonsense
Christianity is the first religion to do that. Ask republicans in USA for example. They are pissed that muslim Obama has become president of Christian USA.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Simon mone
When I read this I started crying. You promised heaven and gave them Hell.
Conversion to Christianity has not redeemed 19 million Dalit Christians from social discrimination and untouchability. It has only added to their misery
In the Catholic Church, the dalits form the majority, almost 70%: but it is the higher caste-people, only 30% of church population, who control the Church by pre-emptying the key position. The majority of the catholic bishops and clergy, the religious and lay leaders, come from the upper caste. One can say that this 30%, the upper caste, occupy the 90% of the administration and leadership of the church. Thus the dalits are pushed aside and reduced to insignificance in their own homeland. Today this trend has become a major matter for concern in the church and must be dealt with.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Thanks Amy. I believe there are saner voices among Indian christians who are actually Hindu in thought irrespective of what god they pray to. The aggressive evangelical christians like Simon, emmarcee are a blot to Indian society. They are here only because they get commission like 20% from western churches to convert Indian people. They are truly snakes in the disguise of priests.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Those christians visit this site with so beautiful messages and words, reflects the true colors of what christianity stands for. An it also reflects their parents character. I never come across one message by chrsitians, which speaks balance, forget about good words about Hindus and Hindu dharma.
These converted inferior souls think, they control Bharat. They are so proud of barbaric terrorist Francis Xavier, who burned thousands of Hindus to death n Goa and destroyed thousands of mandirs.
Their teachings teaches to speak ill of others, terrorise othrrs, as they have nothing to show their own good. 2000 years history is a history of barbarity, terror, invasion, plunder, butchering millions of mankind across the world. A man called Pope collaborated with Nazi Hitler and Fascist Mussolini to butcher about 12 millions of Jews, Romas and others who don’t follow their violent cult.
Hindus must learn to be assertive, bold to deal with barbarians, trairtors who work agaisnt our dharma and nation. We must teach lessions in their own language. Just ignore the messages of these barbaric missionary soul-harvestors. Let them bark. If they come to bite, then broke their teeths.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Simon mone
—— Imagine our country without English ———-
As I told you have gone rogue. You are unable to think sensibly and logically. English is different than ELM. ELM is again different from ELM controlled and funded by Western Churches. See you are unable to connect all the dots. Christians like you spoil good names of good christians like me.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
hey there kiran,
Just ignore types like Simon. I am embarassed by what he is spouting from his mouth. Or is it really coming from his mouth?
Amy
February 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Amy>>>English is different than ELM. ELM is again different from ELM controlled and funded by Western Churches>>>
I do agree with you.. Majority in ELM/ Press Club are all Hindoo Brahmins.. I can prove it with statistics..
Whats your take on this?
February 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Kiran P>>christians like Simon, emmarcee are a blot to Indian society. They are here only because they get commission like 20% from western churches to convert Indian people. They are truly snakes in the disguise of priests.>>>
For your kind Information… I am not a Priest.. I’m an Engineering Graduate with a Post Graduation from a finest Management school…Thanks to the finest education I got in the missionary run schools.. And I’m in my early thirties age too..
So, let me ask you, why u judged me as a foreign aid-receiver and a missionary…. I’m a humble follower of Jesus Christ, the super star..
February 5th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
>>>>Conversion to Christianity has not redeemed 19 million Dalit Christians from social discrimination and untouchability. It has only added to their misery>>
If you spot any such things, you have the teachings of Jesus Christ and his highest moral standards to condemn it.. Christ has even given power to you to condemn this..
But on what basis you would condem the sankaracharyas, who still follow untouchablity?
Here, Jesus Christ stands tall
February 5th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
———Majority in ELM/ Press Club are all Hindoo Brahmins.. I can prove it with statistics..
Simon mone,
You still are stuck in a rut. You can bribe anyone to say anything you want. I don’t want to know caste business of ELM. Those in power including US contacts tell me they are brahmin Christians. What the hell is brahmin christians I wonder sometimes. ELM in India also get ISI poppy money.
See you can prove anything with statistics but you cannot ignore the following statistic. Church whether you like it or not has not followed jesus. Jesus says love your neighbour not convert or kill him if he does not. You can stand in the corner of a road or bus stop and thump your bible. That is where our freedom stops.
See what has happened for 2000 years. Incas, mayans, aztecs and native amerticans are all wiped out. Now in India and srilanka hindus and budhhists are getting wiped out. 2000 year church history is very very very bad.
http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
Read and learn before Jesus condemns you to eternal damnation
February 5th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
:: I am not a Priest.. I’m an Engineering Graduate with a Post Graduation from a finest Management school…Thanks to the finest education I got in the missionary run schools.. And I’m in my early thirties age too..
Thanks for sharing that. Let me see what I can infer from that. First and foremost if this kind of garbage talk is coming from an “Engineering Graduate with a Post Graduation from a finest Management school” who is also ADULT aged 30+ then imagine what can come from an illiterate bible thumping frock wearing rice christian who is aged 60+ with the history of believing in dogmatic crap for all those 60+ years? Yes, missionary education on the side makes it worse. You should have gotten a PhD degree in biblical studies which will prepare you for conversion jobs better.
:: I’m a humble follower of Jesus Christ, the super star..
humble follower of a super star!?
The humber you are the bigger the star?
super star? rock star? DJ, rap, pub, sex, amnesia
yes yes it all makes sense. Your arrogance is only eclipsed by your nonsense.
February 5th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
:: Jesus Christ stands tall
He was about 5.5 middle esaterner. He is considered as yet another yogi by most Hindus. But ppl like you are making him smaller everyday by your actions and words. Listen to Amy, there is still hope
February 5th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Kiran>>> Yes, missionary education on the side makes it worse. >>>
What about the possible alternative… A Gurukul education system… and Imagine Indian with that kind of education of sooth saying, Palmistry!!! Do you have any better alternative to Macaulay? Just curious?
>>>The humber you are the bigger the star?
super star? rock star? DJ, rap, pub, sex, amnesia>>
Cant help it…Thats how you comprehend English… I wonder how you would take it, when I say ” You Mom always,Loves you Kiran”… Im sure Orange Orangutans would be against that word “love’… cos St.Valentines day is nearing!!
February 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
::I am not a Priest.. I’m an Engineering Graduate with a Post Graduation from a finest Management school
Hitler was not a priest but you know what he did.
Bush was not a priest but do you know what he did
READ THIS FIRST. ALL INDIANS ALSO NEED TO READ THIS.
Christian plan to convert India, the role of American missionaries in it and the Bush support !
http://compreligion.sulekha.com/blog/post/2008/09/chritian-plan-to-convert-india-the-role-of-american.htm
February 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Amy>>Jesus says love your neighbour not convert or kill him if he does not.>>>>
Rather, Jesus Christ said, ” Go and Spread his message all across the world.. One may face humiliation and bruise or even they would kill you. But spread this message about Kingdom of God”.
February 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Simon,
I will talk to you only after you read this.
AMERICAN plan to CONQUER India
http://compreligion.sulekha.com/blog/post/2008/09/chritian-plan-to-convert-india-the-role-of-american.htm
February 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Kiran>>>Christian plan to convert India, the role of American missionaries in it and the Bush support !>>>
Whats wrong in spreading Jesus Christ’s message of “Love Thy Neighbour’ and salvation..
If you have any better solutions, please feel to share it and spread it, unless you are a Brahmin, who wish to confine to goodness of Veda’s and Upanishads with his own, in the name of Sanskrit skill… Cheers!! pls ponder
February 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
:: Go and Spread his message all across the world.. One may face humiliation and bruise or even they would kill you. But spread this message about Kingdom of God
Spread your message ethically on the road side. Instead see what you guys did, Amy’s link
http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
February 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
:: “Love Thy Neighbour’ and salvation
Do I want this love? ( http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm )
NO!
February 5th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Simon mone,
JSTFU scums like you pander my religion as “religion of love” and spread hate. jehadi scums pander Islam as “religion of peace” and create Terror. Enuf of your nonsense. Get a life
February 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Kiran>>I will talk to you only after you read this.>>>
I have read this passage “For Indian evangelical groups, access to American technology meant faster and more secure communication with their patrons. And, of course, the availability of the Bible in local languages, In fact, in today”s India, the Bible is available in almost all languages and dialects. If the translation of the Bible was a symbol of huge transnational exercise, the massive distribution of gospel literature was nothing less than a distribution marvel. In India, a coordinated gospel literature distribution exercise was staged to reach 600,000 villages by the end of 2000.”"”"
Here I go… So whats your problem in translating all Vedas & Upanishads and share it all with the Dalits and sudras… Will Hinduism allow that…Even I wanted to read such books, but not available in book store, except for plenty of ‘Saffron books’.. What stops.. Any shortage of printing technology or newsprint??
Will Brahmins permit it!! Can we chant slokas in local dialect? Just try it, and see what reaction you get it.. It will be the same like Taliban mullahs, who want only Arabic…. You guys are just another Hindu talibans!!! 3 cheers boy
February 5th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
— Hindu talibans
Simon mone,
You are lucky to live in India among Hindus and still spout so much hatred in the name of Jesus dragging my God down. Try doing that among Talibans in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Arabic countries and you WILL BE BEHEADED in no time. Don’t misuse the courtesy of Hindus in India.
February 5th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Simon mone,
RELIGION OF PEACE MEETS RELIGION OF LOVE
THEY ARE MADE FOR EACH OTHER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0roifXCDyA
February 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Amy>>>Try doing that among Talibans in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Arabic countries and you WILL BE BEHEADED in no time. Don’t misuse the courtesy of Hindus in India.>>>
Taliban beheads… and hindoo talibans of Gujarath put those who proclaim God in to Jails under anti-conversion law.. I dont find any difference , except for the intensity of sentencement..
Wont you respect religious freedom and human rights ?
Is there any difference between Osama Bin Laden who asks for heads of non-moslems converts and Modi/Advani who wants to put those in jail who pursues their choice of path to God?
Hinduism has gone the Talibanic/Islamic way!!
February 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
—I dont find any difference
Simon mone
I did not expect you to find any considering how deranged you are. May be once you are beheaded you will know the difference. Try going to Pak and preach and come back and let me know
February 5th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Amy>>>I did not expect you to find any considering how deranged you are. May be once you are beheaded you will know the difference>>>
HINDOOOO taliban in action!!! Long live Rama Sena & Shiva Sena, RSS… Middle East is not far from India.. Once upon a time, we all shared the same geographical boundaries..
February 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
THE ‘TOLERANT’ HINDU AS THE ‘VILLAGE IDIOT’
I have always been intrigued by the idea of the ‘village idiot’ in English literary language. It was not as if the village idiot was abnormal in some way. He was just someone who had been rejected by his own family perhaps because he was ‘slow’ (or so they thought), perhaps because he was different from the ‘normal’. The village idiot, completely at the mercy of the village and helplessly dependent for survival, had no desire for explicit self-identity. Not quite man, not quite beast, he was every kind of animal that the village wanted him to be – from a street dog to a draught animal to a squishy bug which allowed itself to be tormented by the village brats. He was also every man’s voiceless whipping boy. And on the rare occasions when, unable to bear the torment the idiot summoned the spirit to react, or miracle of miracles, put up a resistance to the abuse, all the village as one, thrashed him till his spirit was broken. The village could not afford to have the spirit of defiance flickering even weakly within the village idiot’s heart. The people of the village needed the village idiot as an outlet for their own baser, uncivilised instincts. The village had to perforce abuse him physically and mentally to make sure the village idiot never felt the desire or acquired the capacity to become ‘self’ conscious.
The Hindus of post independent India find themselves in a position similar to that of the village idiot. We have an acquired image, an image given to us and enforced by the Indian political and intellectual class to sustain the myth of communal harmony and to sustain the modern face of this country – composite-cultural, multi-national, pluralist, secular democracy. If these images, a combination of falsehoods and partial truths have to be sustained then the Hindu has to continue to remain the village idiot with an identity which is not self-realised but cleverly imposed. The Hindu must forever and all times be unflinchingly committed to ‘tolerance’ and ‘ahimsa’ – the two qualities guaranteed to keep Hindus in inaction, in self-destructive pacifism, in smug masochism which delights in its tolerance of abuse and which begs for more.
India is held up by the likes Sonia Gandhi, Syed Shahabuddin and Romilla Thapar as the perfect example of a ‘pluralist democracy’, of communal harmony where Hindus live peaceably with the world’s second largest population of Muslims. Now this is a self-serving and palpably false image because communal harmony is maintained as long as the Hindus do not react to Muslim intractability and Christian and Muslim stubborn refusal to respect Hindu sensibilities. Communal harmony rests on Hindu inaction, on the Hindu remaining the village idiot. But whenever the Hindu has asserted his self-identity as happened when he reacted to the massacre in Godhra or when he pulled down the mosque standing insolently on Ramjanmabhumi, when he resists religious conversions, or when he protests against a foreigner with neo-colonial ambitions declaring her intention to become the Prime Minister of the country, then the very same people will shout to the world that communal harmony is shattered, India is a hotbed of communal tensions, the social fabric has been torn asunder, minorities are threatened by Hindu fundamentalists, and Hindu extremism is on the ascendancy. The secular politician and the secular anti-Hindu needs the Hindu to be alive for India to wear the mask of secularism and pluralism but they need the Hindu to live as the village idiot to keep up the myth of communal harmony under which guise the Muslims and Christians can perpetuate and re-inforce their religious identity and mandate.
Like the village idiot rejected by his family, Hinduism finds herself in this plight because she has been abandoned by the thinking Hindu who is enamored with western modernism and the atomisation and rootlessness which western modernism brings along with it. The intellectual Hindu with the capacity to resist abuse but whose will to resist has been neutralised by western education, is happy with the ‘tolerant’ epithet because ‘tolerance’ does not compel him to accept responsibility for resistance. Hinduism, for its identity, has been left at the mercy of anti-Hindu or the rootless Hindu thought peddlers in Indian academia and polity; and what is being peddled for popular consumption is facets of Hinduism like ‘ahimsa’ and ‘tolerance’ which are disjointed from Kaala dharma and presented as absolute virtues, as universal tenets.
Some peddlers like R.S.Sharma and Romilla Thapar have defamed Hinduism by projecting a perversion, a mockery of the religion. These thought peddlers had unchallenged control of Indian academia because the Hindu, in a process which was begun by Gandhi ji in the 19th century and culminating in the partition of the country in 1947, had by then been made the village idiot who did not acknowledge, much less resist the abuse and humiliation inflicted on him. And that is why these rascals could get away scot-free for over four decades with the fairy-tale fiction of barbaric Muslim rule of India leaving behind it only the Taj Mahal and Fatehpur Sikhri, Sufism and Bismillah Khan. The village idiot is not supposed to remember Aurangazeb’s bestiality, not supposed to remember the humiliation of the three mosques in Kashi, Mathura and Ayodhya, is not supposed to ask how the land of the Kashmiri pandits became a Muslim majority territory which has evicted the original inhabitants. Above all, the Hindu village idiot is not supposed to hold the Muslims of India guilty for the partition that tore the nation apart.
History text books written by these anti-Hindu peddlers in academia describe our independence movement as being independence only from British colonial rule and end the story of our independence movement with the midnight speech delivered by Nehru. That Gandhi ji’s swarajya was as much to liberate our societies from the influence of Muslim rule has not even been imagined! The details of partition are coyly left unsaid. The village idiot is so benumbed in inaction that these rascals could peddle with impunity the fraudulent and highly divisive Aryan invasion theory, portraying Hinduism as ‘perverted’ brahminism’, (whatever that means) and with depicting even Sikh gurus pejoratively. This was only the very tip of the iceberg. The destruction caused to the Hindu’s identity and to the Hindu social fabric was catastrophic and almost irreversible. Creating the Hindu village idiot was paying the rascals rich dividends by way of effacing this nation’s self-identity.
So let us take the ‘tolerance’ bull-shit first.
When the village idiot fails to resist abuse in the name of tolerance, then Hussein is emboldened to draw Hindu goddesses in the nude, SAHMAT is emboldened to depict Srirama and Sita as brother and sister, thus rendering their relationship incestuous. And if the village idiot tears the exhibition apart in rage, then the entire polity and academic world thrashes the Hindu so violently that the feeble flicker of defiance is snuffed out and we go back to being the soft-headed village idiot all over again. We have white-skins depicting Ganesha on toilet seats, Lakshmi on bikinis, white-skins writing profound ‘fictional’ biographies of Hindu heroes where Shivaji is stated to be born to his mother from an extra-marital relationship, another white-skin ‘scholar’ of Indic studies who declares that the Bhagawad Gita, far from being a holy book, is a book of horror which instigates Hindus to war, and she, hallelujah, is a pacifist and doesn’t think there is any such thing as a ‘good war’!! It also emboldens a Gail Omvedt to dismiss the Vedas as pornography and emboldens N.Ram to declare at a meeting that Hindus are a minority in this country through some perverted, twisted argument which tickled the largely captive audience comprising Marxists and minorities. I am not even going into the details of E.V.Ramaswamy Naickar’s infamous anti-Hindu Dravidian movement in Tamil Nadu. And through all this abuse and humiliation, the Hindu village idiot slumbered in the sunshine of his virtuous big-heartedness which tolerated this abuse, this excruciating pain and mortification.
That is because the village idiot doesn’t think all this merits a fierce resistance. He has been brain-washed into believing that it is his dharma to allow himself to be abused and humiliated. Christians declare that their religion mandates them to convert all nations to their faith and they insist that India is a secular, pluralist democracy and that a democratic country must respect the Geneva Convention which guarantees individuals right to freedom of conscience and religion. The village idiot has also been reduced to such an endemic state of inaction that all anti-Hindu ‘secular’ rascals have even managed to establish that the highest practice of secularism and the most explicit respect for human rights is to guarantee one section of minorities the right to plant the cross cheek-by-jowl of every existing Hindu temple and another section of minorities to indulge in repeated acts of terror against the State and the Hindu community.
The ‘tolerance ‘ of the Hindu village idiot knows no bounds. “The …… leader, ……, warned that non-passage of the Bill would erode the rich culture and heritage of the State and change its ethnic, linguistic, religious and demographic character. (The Hindu, dated 6th June, 2004) Let us assume that the ‘Bill’ in the above mentioned quote is the Anti-conversion Bill or a Bill seeking to regulate the proliferation of churches and mosques. And that the leader in question is Jayalalithaa or Narendra Modi. Now what does the quote mean if de-coded into words of one syllable? That religious conversions altered the demographic character of the state, it eroded and altered the unique ethnicity of the Tamils/Gujaratis (remember in India we have still not established if ethnicity rested on language, religion or physiology), it affected the religious culture of the Tamils and Gujaratis who are basically Hindus and above all that since mushrooming Churches and madarasas eroded the rich Tamil/Gujarati culture and heritage of the people, Jayalalithaa/Modi was considering introducing a Bill which put a moratorium on churches and madarasas. It would also seek to limit the number of mosques and churches in any given locality proportionate to the population of those religionists. Now what kind of editorials do you think N.Ram would have written? Or Shekhar Gupta? What would Shabana Azmi have said, Sonia Gandhi, Laoo Yadav, A.B.Bardhan? What would our secular intellectuals in academia, the writers of the center page in The Hindu have said? What would Soli Sorabjee, Fali Nariman, Rajeev Dhavan, our Rashtrapati have said? No marks for the correct answer!
But this was said by a Muslim political leader of a Muslim majority state in India. This was said by NC leader Omar Abdulla about the passage of the extremely communal, unfair and immoral Permanent Resident (Disqualification) Bill. (The Hindu, 6th June, 2004, Mufti govt. to redraft Permanent Resident Bill) Forget that the Bill was not allowed to be tabled again in the J&K Assembly but what the Hindu village idiot failed to see or hear was that the entire secular brigade in the media and the polity was silent on Omar Abdulla’s assertion that J&K had a unique cultural heritage, a unique ‘not to be diluted’ religious, ethnic, demographic character! India is a colourless, odourless, tasteless pluralist, secular democracy which must permit foreigners to become Prime Ministers, which must allow unchecked immigration of Muslims from Bangladesh, which must allow militant Christian missionaries to alter the demography of the North-East and other pockets in India, which must allow the proliferation of churches and mosques in numbers completely disproportionate to the population of these religionists, which must deface and disfigure the Hindu identity of its majority population but the Muslim majority state must be allowed to protect its unique religious, cultural, demographic heritage!! And this can be asserted by a Muslim political leader unchallenged because the secular brigade has reduced the Hindu to being the village idiot.
The village idiot has no name, has no self-conscious family identity. He is so completely the village idiot that the village has succeeded in totally effacing his self-identity from his conscious mind. The Tamil equivalent of the English ‘village idiot’ is ‘chappani’ which we know is no name but an epithet. The Hindu village idiot finds himself in the same predicament. He has no name! The writer had occasion to listen to a talk delivered by a distinguished retired Indian diplomat a couple of days ago. Paying glowing tributes to Nani Palkhivalla, the diplomat recalled that it was something which Nani said that struck him as being the leit motif of what India’s foreign policy should be. Let me paraphrase. “The most striking feature of India is the Indian ethos to be welcoming. It was the Indian ethos which welcomed the Jew, the Muslim, the Christian, the Parsi – all of whom were fleeing religious persecution in their homelands. We welcomed them, absorbed them into our ethos and gave back to them considerably enriched. And this should be the underlying philosophy of our foreign policy”, he said.
Now this ‘Indian ethos’ baffles me. What pray was this ‘Indian’ ethos before the Christians, Muslims, Jews and Parsis came into this country to make it a multi-religious, multi-cultural country? Did this India have a unique cultural heritage, a unique religious, ethnic, demographic character before she became multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religious? What ‘India’ was it which welcomed aliens into this land? And as the diplomat pointed out, outside of India, in different parts of the world, at different times, Muslims were persecuting Parsis, Christians were persecuting the Jews, some Muslim sects were being persecuted by other Muslim sects. None of these religions had any history of co-existing with other religions. And yet, this distinguished diplomat could not bring himself to say, and neither could Nani Palkhivalla that if all of these religionists were made to feel welcome it was because it was the village idiot Hindu who was welcoming them. The Indian Christian did not welcome the Jew, the Indian Muslim did not welcome the Parsis. The so-called faceless Indian ethos was the Hindu ethos. And it was because of the Hindu ethos that these refugees who were slaughtering each other outside India were learning to live with each other in this land. I can understand Nani not stating that it was the welcoming, tolerant, big-hearted, generous Hindu who dug his own grave by making some of these barbaric groups welcome; because it was by converting and killing the Hindus that this Hindu nation became a ‘multi-religious, multi-cultural, pluralist’ bull-shit whatever. But even this career diplomat, an intellectual Hindu, could not pronounce the word ‘Hindu’. He made it out to be some abstract ‘Indian’ ethos. The self-forgetful ness of the typical Hindu village idiot. We have forgotten our own name and our self-nature. The Hindu ‘chappani’.
Having shown remarkable big-heartedness in welcoming barbaric, less-civilised alien religions into this land, the Hindu village idiot then showed remarkable ‘tolerance’ as these alien religions threw him out of Kashmir, threw him out of the North-East, slaughtered cows, destroyed his temples, killed or converted his kings, conquered territory and enslaved the very people who had made them welcome into their homes. The Hindu village idiot welcomed the refugee and the invader alike, the trader and the missionary alike. Our tolerance expanded virtuously with every abuse, with every humiliation because Gandhi ji told us that generosity and tolerance to be whole must now be embellished with ‘ahimsa’. So no matter how we are abused and humiliated, we must never give up on ‘ahimsa’. ‘Ahimsa’ is not for the weak, Gandhi ji told us kindly, to make us all feel even more virtuous, it is for the strong. Yeah, right. But of what use is strength if it cannot deter abuse or if it refuses to punish the abuser? And the Hindu village idiot never asked Gandhi ji if ‘ahimsa’ is a practical quality when good lived with evil, when an inclusive civilization was forced to co-exist with exclusive religions. And the idiot also never asked Gandhi ji why his inspiration Sri Rama did not practice the kind of ‘ahimsa’ Gandhi ji was preaching to us and why Sri Rama had to take to arms and wage a bloody war against Ravana. The Hindu idiot also did not dare to question Gandhi ji if perhaps Gandhi ji was not imposing what was undeniably an admirable quality in an individual totally erroneously on an entire people, on an entire community! ‘Ahimsa’ is not a collective virtue, not when we live amidst humans who have no faith in it. But by this time the Hindu village idiot was brain dead and soul dead. He could not be expected to feel all these doubts.
But more to the point, just as unlimited forbearance with abuse and an unlimited capacity to put up with humiliation was enforced upon the village idiot, Gandh ji’s ‘ahimsa’ and forbearance was imposed only upon the Hindu village idiot. How come the Muslims did not imbibe Gandhiji’s ‘ahimsa’ or the Christians imbibe Gandhi ji’s abhorrence for religious conversion? The Hindu village idiot has never challenged these communities upon their selective adaptation of Gandhian values and virtues. Because the Hindu village idiot was still basking in the light of his own virtuous ‘tolerance’ and ‘ahimsa’. But the spirit of defiance did flicker in the Hindu in 1992. The flicker fanned into a flame and the Hindu village idiot in a fit of rage brought down the mosque in Ayodhya. It also fanned into a raging fire when a Muslim murderous mob burnt alive Hindu men, women and children in a train in Godhra. The Hindu wanted revenge and he had it. But from then on ‘karsevak’ was synonymous with terrorist.
Laloo now wants to re-open the Godhra files to establish the ‘truth’. The lunatic has declared he wants to investigate afresh who really was travelling in the coach that was set afire – innocent men, women and children or ‘karsevaks’. And not one newspaper, not one journalist in the print or electronic media, not one right-of-center politician asked Laloo what he meant exactly by this fine distinction. The Hindu village idiot continues to sleep through -
The partition of his nation by the Muslims whom he welcomed into his country as traders.
Destruction of his temples in the holiest of Hindu cities and in Kashmir.
Continuing abuse of Hindu religion, religious beliefs and practices and Hindu history by secular intellectuals.
Genocide of Kashmiri Hindus and their forcible eviction from their homeland.
The conversion of the North-East from a Hindu majority to Christian majority region within a time span of less than a hundred years.
Continuing refusal by the Muslims to vacate Kashi, Mathura and Ayodhya.
Secular politicians and intellectuals justifying the Mumbai blasts I for the destruction of the Babri Masjid and Mumbai blasts II for the Gujarat riots.
The national intellectual discourse which upholds the Muslim right to revenge for Babri Masjid and the Gujarat riots but denies the Hindu village idiot the same right for Godhra, for Kashi, Mathura and Ayodhya and for 800 years of unrelenting bestial Muslim rule of Hindu India.
The comic act of his own leaders from Vajpayee to Jayalalithaa frantically trying to discard their Hindu face for a secular mask.
The country’s polity which refuses to protect the Hindu from the violence of religious conversions.
The attempts of the secular brigade to finish off Narendra Modi and Praveen Togadiya in public life.
The determined efforts to defame and malign our armed forces and the police who are engaged in counter-terrorism wars.
The idiom of human rights which makes heroines of Zahirra Sheikh and Ishrat Jahan and villains of Jayalalithaa, Uma Bharti and Sadhvi Rithambara.
Sleep on you idiot, sleep on. It may take another Godhra, another partition to stir your mind to self-consciousness. But I doubt it. The Hindu village idiot will have to lay down the coffin of acquired identity from his shoulders first. Only then will he stand erect, only then will his spirit be liberated to feel the first stirrings of resistance.
Radha Rajan
21st June, 2004.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
::HINDOOOO taliban in action!!!
Readers are advised by this kind of talk from Simon. Like Amy said these retards will go to any length to justify – “My god is greater than all, Convert, if you try to defend we’ll shout persecution persecution persecution or as in this case taliban taliban taliban” ignoring their talibanish behaviour!
There is a very good collection of articles on this behavior of such retards at http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Conversion.htm
The Persecution Industry: What are the stakes?
Human rights issues have the power to bring nations to their knees in the International arena by forcing major policy changes. Evangelical groups worldwide are abusing this issue to achieve their selfish goals by turning human rights into a game called ‘Persecution’ and making it an essential ingredient of their evangelism plan.
See the graph there. Evangelical groups claim that they are persecuted ‘everywhere for practicing their beliefs’ (i.e. , in all the 238 countries around the globe). In summary, the group that is targeted for conversion by the evangelicals in every country is de fined as the offender.
There is also a very well researched article by a Christian writer.
http://www.crusadewatch.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=697&Itemid=128
February 5th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Interesting responses from people like Kiran and Radha Rajan and some others. As for Simon, is he for real? If he is, I ask that he read my response to the next topic by Deepak on the Mangalore pubs.
I read this site because I get information which I don’t get in the mainstream media.
Re: Advice to English media, well said Deepak !
The recommendation to study Sanskrit is well taken. Not just a paradigm shift but the beauty of the language. Ancient Greek, the language of Plato and Aristotle is quite beautiful but for Hindus and those who inhabit Hindustan Sanskrit is definitely the way to go. And English can continue as the lingua franca with which we deal with the world. One of the reasons Indians are doing better than some other South Asian countries is because of our mastery of English.
Take another example. The river Indus. It used to be called the Sindhu, until the Persians came and called it Hindu and the British still later anglicised it to Sindhu. Tagore in his version of the National Anthem, changed it back to Sindhu. ( I wonder if Simon and others of his persuasion sing the National Anthem !)
In any case, a Hindu responds to the Indus in a way that Babur did not. It is for us, the river along whose banks the sacred scriptures were composed. The fact that most of it currently runs through Pakistan, makes no difference to our sentiments. It is like the Ganges, a sacred river.
Most of our Christian and Muslim friends are converts from Hinduism and many are attached to Bharat, Hindustan, India, whatever name you want to call the country. They and their ancestors were born and raised here. I read recently that the Adivasis in the north east took exception to a Christian missionary who produced a native version of the Bible, with the name Sarna in it. Now, the Sarna tree is unique to these Adivasis. It cannot be transplanted in a translation to the Middle East which has its own flora and fauna. But not Sarna. The story ends happily with the Church apologising for that and the change was made.
February 5th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Excuse the mistake ! The sentence in my comment above should read : and the British changed it to Indus.
February 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Dear vijaya
Do not worry about evangelicals like Simon arguing here though evangelical nightmare for India is true and real. It’s a clear and present danger. They will sobotage truth in million ways. He is just a soldier of pope planting church in Asia in 3rd millennium!
Unfortunately we had worst 8 years in USA past us. Bush is out and Obama is in. We all know Bush mingling church and state with faith based policies. With Republican defeat the back of missionaries has been broken. So there is some hope. My uncle lives in Alabama which is hotbed of evangelical Fundamentalism. Some so called ‘Christian’ schools there teach creationism instead of Darwin and evolution. You know what creationism is? Oh well to make it acceptable they have started calling it as ‘Intelligent Design’. It says God created man. Not just any god but CHRISTIAN GOD.
http://idexposed.wordpress.com/
February 6th, 2009 at 1:56 am
Even I don’t drink it. But it is proven to have miraculous medicinal power.
start distributing in pet bottles you dog.
It would help you get some income rather than earning income from foul means.
You can’t be a hero by beating women or those who did it.
shame on u r mother for giving you birth.
February 6th, 2009 at 2:13 am
Hinduism is peace not war
(Though our religion is story of war)
Hibnduism is not aginst cultures
(though we have culture-less bigots in us.)
Sri rama sena is going to oppose childbirth trougn vagina next after valentine’s day.
They say vagina is the sexual organ of women and they want the child to be born only with caesaranion.
Dont’ call them fools because it is the media which has highlighted them by taking interviews with the rowdies.
Shame on home minister for being coward to act on goondas.
February 6th, 2009 at 3:22 am
What next.. Shiva Sena/Rama Sena are going to burn English Pappers ?
February 6th, 2009 at 5:19 am
@ Simon,
When Muslims can silence the English papers and make them sing paens to Islam, Hindus have no option but to do the same.
February 6th, 2009 at 5:30 am
@ Kiran P,
Stop your PJ.
February 6th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Mainstream English media have imposed censorship on themselves for a variety of reasons. Money coming from outside sources, lack of confidence in their own culture,arising from their ignorance of India’s civilisational history and the freedom struggle, and in the case of the Marxists, a lack of understanding of what Karl Marx was talking about, and ofcourse, their blind allegiance to the so called ‘Communist’ country across the border. Marx’s goal was a humane society where the guiding principle was: From each according to his/her ability and to each according to his/her ability. China certainly does not fit the bill. It is a country where the peasantry are oppressed, where the workers are in an assembly line, embodying the worst features of Fordism and so on. Still, Indian Marxists blindly support this country and so in their ideological belief they want to bring India down.
The so called secular English media are actually biased in favour of anti Indian groups.
The Muslim lobby is always complaining about discrimination. Today, I watched a discussion on NDTV about Kalyan Singh and the destruction of the Babri. Muslim leaders should point out to their brethren that during the Muslim conquest of India, thousands of Hindu temples were destroyed and people were converted at the point of the sword. During Aurangzeb’s reign Hindus had to pay a head tax( the jiziya) and wear visible signs of their religious affiliation.
Okay, that is the past, now India is a secular democracy and the Babri should not have been destroyed. Fair enough.
If India is a secular democracy, why is it that there is no Uniform Civil Code ? Why does the Muslim minority practise its own civil laws, such as the freedom to practise polygamy ?
In Canada, the Muslims wanted the government to support Sharia and they were firmly refused. The Muslim community had no alternative but to keep quiet. The pattern is that where they are in a minority of 5% they adapt to the laws of the land, as in the U.S. and Canada. But where they are in a 12-14% as they are in India they insist on special privileges, such as practising Sharia laws, while the other citizens must conform to the civil laws of the Indian Constitution.
It is surprising that no English media have raised this important question of India’s secular democracy which guarantees equal rights to all citizens, except that some citizens are more equal than others !
This is unheard of in any other secular liberal democracy in the world !
February 6th, 2009 at 9:46 am
“@ Kiran P,
Stop your PJ.”
@Deepak Kamat
I doubt u really are Deepak kamat. Just posting in his name.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:53 am
I think you meant Kiran kp. coz kiran p’s comments are absolutely sane.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:27 am
“kiran kp” who ever you are
If you have the guts and a comment worthy of being heard try using a unique handle and not copy me closely. Thanks for identifying it Darshan, may be Deepak Kamat missed it since it’s humanly impossible to screen so many comments properly.
This technique is called INCULTURATION where the missionary closely follows the native to influence other natives. Please read upon it, one sample here
http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?type=ARTICLES&id=1132002640
February 6th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Deepak Kamat February 6th, 2009 at 5:19 am>>@ Simon, When Muslims can silence the English papers and make them sing paens to Islam, Hindus have no option but to do the same.>>>
Possibly you are right… Hindu’s wish to go the Islamic way!! Mohammed , Kali and Shiva all gonna sail in the same boat.
Like Mangalore Ramasene, you should also silence all the liquor shops, pubs,Archeis, Landmark….Btw, you should close all the cafe coffeeday too… after all Coffee is brought to India by Vasco Da Gama, a Portugues missionary
February 6th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
>>>If India is a secular democracy, why is it that there is no Uniform Civil Code ? Why does the Muslim minority practise its own civil laws, such as the freedom to practise polygamy ?>>>
In 1955, Hindus were also practising polygamy and it was allowed under Hindu marriage act… Google to find out, how Nehru stuggled to table that bill in Parliament.. 50 years ago Hindus were the same as moslems.. Thanks to British, who banned it all.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Q Your views on moral policing?
A You know, I dont want to enter this debate because when Pope debased our Gods, we were told about freedom of religion. Let the law take its course on both Missionaries and Mangalore.
Guess who said this?
February 6th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Christian Priest arrested for molesting a recently converted woman
CHENNAI: A 35-year-old priest was arrested by the suburban police on Tuesday on charges of molesting a woman within a church at Madhavaram.
According to police officials, the woman, a recent convert to Christianity, came to the church at 8.45 am and locked herself in a room. When others asked for her to come out she refused. The priest, with whom she was said to be on good terms, then asked her to let him in. She agreed.
The two came out 45 minutes later. The woman was allegedly bleeding from her hand and lips. When others asked her about it, she alleged that the priest had molested her and beat her up.
The police, based on the woman’s complaint, took the priest into custody. He was booked under IPC Sections 341, 324 and 506 (2).
A police official said, “We suspect the priest misbehaved with her inside the church. We have registered a case against him and are investigating.”
February 6th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Suicide of girls in Classroom – Jihadi Romeos under arrest
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8156&SKIN=K
February 6th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Muslim girls to get Separate Institutions for Higher Studies – CPI(Muslim) Minister
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8161&SKIN=B
February 6th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
WE, THE NATION OF INDIA
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main41.asp?filename=Ne170109we_the.asp
February 6th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Amy>>WE, THE NATION OF INDIA>>
If you wish to speak in true spirits of India, then you should stop identifying your million gods along with Indian culture and Nationalism…
Then, Im there with you!!
Dont waddle along the way with saffronites, who wants to alienate non-hindoos.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Amy>>>Christian Priest arrested for molesting a recently converted woman>>
According to Teaching of Jesus Christ, you and I can condemn it..
And his highest moral standars are set clear… ie,
5:27-28
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery;’
28 but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Matthew 5:32
32 but I tell you that whoever puts away his wife, except for the cause of sexual immorality, makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries her when she is put away commits adultery.
Matthew 19:9
9 I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and he who marries her when she is divorced commits adultery.
Can you quote similar teachings from Rama/Krishna….
February 6th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Simon, have you ever read the Vedas or the Upanishads and other sacred Hindu scriptures? There are hundreds of quotable quotes of such profundity that it is hard to choose from them.
I respect Jesus of Nazareth but the history of official Christianity is deplorable. Jesus has said some wonderful things. Mahatma Gandhi said that the Sermon on the Mount went straight to his heart ! I agree. And yet Gandhiji never converted to Christianity, even though many Christian friends tried to. His answer was : I have yet to study and understand my own religion. Presumably, to the end of his days he never converted and he died saying He Ram ! when he was assasinated. You can easily view the film by Richard Attenborough on Gandhi. I recommend reading the Autobiography. He tells us there that while in South Africa a Christian friend leaned over and tried to take his Tulasi beads from his neck saying it was superstition. Gandhiji prevented him saying : It may be superstition to you, but the chain was placed round my neck by my mother.
Is it any wonder that he led the Indian freedom struggle. A North American friend once said to me : Gandhi is a unique phenomenon in history. He is God’s special gift to India and Indians.
Ofcourse, this friend does not know that the Divine Principle gifted India with many such gifts, not known to the outside world, but certainly known to Indians.
You on the other hand, seem to know very little about Hinduism other than what you pick up from the missionaries.
And yes, India is Hindu, pre eminently so. The Christian minority (converts from Hinduism) have to accept that.
You complained on one of these blogs that you would like to read more about Hinduism and Indian history. Since you sound like a student you should have no difficulty in finding such books in the university library. Or go to a bookstore. Or a secondhand book store if you live in a metropolis. I have already recommended British scholar A. L. Basham’s The Wonder That Was India.
I recommend a British scholar since you seem to think that every Indian writer is a saffronite!
The colonial mindset is hard to overcome. That’s okay, but do make an effort. You’ll get to understand the country that nurtured you and for which you seem to have such contempt.
By the way, polygamy was practised by many cultures. And no need to beat Hinduism with the Islamic stick ! Today India is a secular democracy.
Hindus have adapted as they always have because it is not a bigoted religion. It has welcomed people of different faiths, including the Jews of the diaspora in the second century, the Zoroastrians who fled from Iran and practically everyone else. Of these communities the Parsis(Zoroastrians) and the Jews have never attacked India.
India is the only country that has never persecuted Jews.
That says something about India.
The other two monotheistic faiths are forever complaining.
I recommend that you go to Vande Mataram on a google search. You’ll come across three different versions among many others, the first is the classical Tagore rendition of Bankim Chandra’s song, then the fabulous voice of Lata Mangeshkar singing her version. Then, A.R. Rahman’s version Ma Thuje Salaam.
Have some pride in your country. Even the Muslim Rahman has written a fine song for Mother India.
February 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Dear deepakji
English is an western language, if you are truly HINDU then start a blog in Sanskrit. Don’t damage our religion using bullshit English language.
Also btw don’t use any Operation System like Windows, Mac, Linus all these are created by westerners and have virus which will turn you into a western anti-hindu . I am afraid you have already stared becoming western anti-hindu by the use of English language.
DO KNOW THAT YOUR ANTI-HINDU IF YOU USE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
( when you start blogging in Sanskrit will comment in Sanskrit om )
February 6th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
No English
No English means No English Mentality that slavish.
Don’t subvert the bigger purpose by silly reasoning
February 6th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
::Can you quote similar teachings from Rama/Krishna
You think Hindusim is some semetic codified religion littered with dogmas. It’s a way of life. Grow up bible thumper!
February 6th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
:: then you should stop identifying your million gods along with Indian culture and Nationalism…Then, Im there with you!!
CONDITIONS of a CHRISTIAN SOLDIER haha!
February 6th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Once upon a time I read a padre quoted in an article
“The first step of converting Hindus is playing with their mind. To make them as un-hindu as possible. That is the first step, to subvert their way of life. Even if he does not convert fully, he won’t remain as a Hindu anymore, thus a great first step has been achieved”
Simon’s words exemplify that fact.
February 6th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
::50 years ago Hindus were the same as moslems
This one from Simon will result in a fatwa from his arab cousins. I suggest he goes to Pakiland with this statement.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Vijaya,
I agree with many of your views in your previous post.
My posting is mainly for these political hindu, like Deepak Kamat.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
@ Simon,
So you are opposing me for the sake of opposition.
February 7th, 2009 at 12:39 am
Deepak Kamat >>>>
February 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
@ Simon,>>>So you are opposing me for the sake of opposition.>>
I’m definitely against hindu terrorism, hindu nationalism, hindu moral policing acts…..and hindu hooligans like RSS/Shiv Sena/Rama Sena/Bajrangdal..
February 7th, 2009 at 2:13 am
I am definitely against islamic and missionary terrorism, islamic, christian anti-nationalism, islamic and missionary anti-policing acts.
That is why, to counter these islamic and missionary hooligans, we need countering forces of RSS/Shiv Sena/Rama Sena/Bajrangdal…
February 7th, 2009 at 3:48 am
The Simon dogma
Dogma: I’m definitely against hindu terrorism, hindu nationalism, hindu moral policing acts…..and hindu hooligans like RSS/Shiv Sena/Rama Sena/Bajrangdal..
Reality: The word Hindu is synonymous with the word Bharat and India. Is there something called as Indian terrorism? Hindu is a person who follows his own faith without troubling others. Hindu terrorism is a mythical creation of the media.
February 7th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Deepak Kamat>>The word Hindu is synonymous with the word Bharat and India>>>
Thats your saffronite thinking, which is not in line with our Indian constitution…
As a Democratic Indian citizen, I have every right to reject it.
>>Hindu is a person who follows his own faith without troubling others.>>
Its a Brahminic faith, which confined it within itself, and denied 95% of its own dalit bahujans to proclaim hinduism to others. Thats your weakness, not an asset..
February 7th, 2009 at 4:31 am
The Simon dogma
Dogma: Thats your saffronite thinking, which is not in line with our Indian constitution… As a Democratic Indian citizen, I have every right to reject it.
Reality: It is accepted by Indologists. Your rejection is a part of your Christian dogma. The word India came from Hindusthan or river Indus. Hindus are persons living beyond River Indus (Hindusthan).
Dogma: >>Reality: Its a Brahminic faith, which confined it within itself, and denied 95% of its own dalit bahujans to proclaim hinduism to others. Thats your weakness, not an asset..
Reality: Brahminism is a part of Hinduism. Hinduism is beyond dogmas like Brahminism. FYI, the great Valmiki — composer of Ramayana — was also a Dalit. The great Narendra Modi is also an OBC. Besides, Dalits don’t form 95 percent of population. Again, you are going haywire with your Catholic padre dogmas.
February 7th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Deepak kamat>>>FYI, the great Valmiki — composer of Ramayana — was also a Dalit. The great Narendra Modi is also an OBC>>>
Out of the 850Mn hindus, or 300Mn dalits, show me one single dalit, who has become a Brahmin? Or who was annoited as Brahmin..
Before writing here, please understand get the grab of the word “DOGMA’s meaning!!
>>It is accepted by Indologists>>
This is the real problem with Hinduism. It doesnt see God as universal, rather it confines God to some languages or geography and Culture. Thats one reason, hinduism exited from East asia and finally shrung to the Modern India’s territories, and within that itself, its slowly declining.
Better change your perception about your indian gods.. God is a God for all
February 7th, 2009 at 9:05 am
The Simon dogma
Dogma: Out of the 850Mn hindus, or 300Mn dalits, show me one single dalit, who has become a Brahmin? Or who was annoited as Brahmin..
Reality: You don’t even know the meaning of the word Brahmin and Dalit. The word Brahmin means a man who is steeped in Brahma Jnana (Cosmic Knowledge). The word Dalit is recently coined. It means a broken one. Both Broken Ones and the possessors of cosmic knowledge are not by birth but by deeds.
Dogma: Before writing here, please understand get the grab of the word “DOGMA’s meaning!!
Reality: I know the meaning.
Dogma: This is the real problem with Hinduism. It doesnt see God as universal, rather it confines God to some languages or geography and Culture.
Reality: Another dogma. In Hinduism, God and religion comes in the personal domain. You are free to follow your own faith without troubling others.
Dogma: Thats one reason, hinduism exited from East asia and finally shrung to the Modern India’s territories, and within that itself, its slowly declining.
Reality: Hinduism is a state of mind where you are open and accommodating. It is inclusive and not exclusive like Islam and Christianity.
Dogma: Better change your perception about your indian gods.. God is a God for all
Reality: God is your personal problem. I don’t have any perceptions about God whatsoever. I am agnostic. Yet, I am a Hindu because I follow my own faith without troubling others.
February 7th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Deepak Kamat>>You don’t even know the meaning of the word Brahmin and Dalit. The word Brahmin means a man who is steeped in Brahma Jnana (Cosmic Knowledge). >>>>
Ahan!!. This is how Brahminism has been trickily fooling all the hindus for the last 3000 years..
Btw, Who are those who sport thread around torso, and knot it around ears when they go to toilet? Who are those who stay in the temples chanting mantras ? Do you think, other Hindus/Indians dont have such cosmic knowledge.. Learn to accept the reality…Anyway, Missionaries has stipped the teaching rights of Brahmins… Democracy has stripped their job monopoly..
>>>I don’t have any perceptions about God whatsoever. I am agnostic. Yet, I am a Hindu because I follow my own faith without troubling others.>>
Yet again a contradictory statement.. Most of the conversions are happening in India, because hinduism couldnt give a coherent/unified concept of God.. And now that literacy of India is increasiong, and children would start questioning about this…And no clarity of answers from Hinduism, soon.. they look out for another path towards God..Thats the reason for recent fast decline of Hinduism. In my view, Hinduism is quite contradictory and confusing. So those who cannot answer to those clarities, will soon resort to Nationalism/Way off life.. Anyway, its dying, though we may not live to see it
February 7th, 2009 at 9:29 am
The Simon dogma
Dogma: Ahan!!. This is how Brahminism has been trickily fooling all the hindus for the last 3000 years..
Reality: Brahmin fooling the Hindu. Brahmin is also a Hindu.
Dogma: Btw, Who are those who sport thread around torso, and knot it around ears when they go to toilet?
Reality: Even you do it, who is preventing you?
Dogma: Who are those who stay in the temples chanting mantras ?
Reality: Even you build your own temples and chant your own mantras.
Dogma: Do you think, other Hindus/Indians dont have such cosmic knowledge.. Learn to accept the reality…
Reality: One is a Brahmin by deeds only not by birth. That is the reality.
Dogma: Anyway, Missionaries has stipped the teaching rights of Brahmins… Democracy has stripped their job monopoly..
Reality: Well, anybody with knowledge is a Brahmin. As far as missionaries are concerned, they were gifted large tracts of land by the British for enslaving India.
Dogma: Yet again a contradictory statement.. Most of the conversions are happening in India, because hinduism couldnt give a coherent/unified concept of God..
And now that literacy of India is increasiong, and children would start questioning about this…And no clarity of answers from Hinduism, soon.. they look out for another path towards God..Thats the reason for recent fast decline of Hinduism. In my view, Hinduism is quite contradictory and confusing. So those who cannot answer to those clarities, will soon resort to Nationalism/Way off life.. Anyway, its dying, though we may not live to see it
Reality: That’s your own opinion. As far as opinions are concerned, it is like an asshole. Everybody has them.
February 7th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Even Christianity does not have any clarity of God. An idea is inserted that Christ is the only son of God.
And Bingo, the padre comes with his frock and sprinkles holy water.
February 7th, 2009 at 10:48 am
:: Christianity does not have any clarity of God
Personally for the sake of good Christians I believe Jesus as a matter of purely faith without going for the historicity behind it.
But Vatican’s invention and constant reinventions regarding Jesus for 2000 years has set the tone for some ugly truths by rational westerners. These are Christians who abandoned Christianity, not from Hindutva folks. Remember this. 50% of people in the west have ABANDONED Christianity hence west has progressed from dark ages.
Jesus was sun of God video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-kvw1fYXs
Some of the best web sites on this topic
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/
http://www.burningcross.net/
IGNORANCE is BLISS!
February 7th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Church and it’s vendors of goods like simon like padres need to be exposed fully. British, Spanish, Portugeese, Missionaries etc., basically the white man has used this ‘divide and rule’ through ages that we can see that in action on this very forum. The constant rant about ‘brahminism’ is one. I don’t even know what that word means. It’s yet another invention from Church. First they created caste that was different from Varna or Jati. Then they seperated adivasi, vanavasi, other tribals from Hindus when they were all Hindus ( way of life definition ) and started preying on them. Then they started preying on dalits. Then OBC in the name of “brahminism”. What’s next? Split brahmins into upper caste , lower caste, mid caste etc., Keep making a piece of the pie larger always creating animosity among artificial ‘other’ smaller piece until there is nothing left. Creating fissures forever in the name ‘love for Jesus’. How do you think padres get their PhDs in Missionary studies? By slicing and dicing existing ‘divide and rule’ material further in devicing strategies to conquer the world farther and fartther. Expansion and looting in the name of some god and some religion. No different than Jehadis. At least Jehadis are clear about their hatred and display it openly. A missionary is worse than anything I can imagine in this world. When I read the web site http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm my blood boils. I wonder how a section of humanity can be so animalistic?
February 7th, 2009 at 11:12 am
I wonder how a section of humanity can be so animalistic?
No, Animals are far better as what they do always has a reason. Nothing can explain what the missionaries did for 2000 years and continue to do. Every human must fight these scumbags and eradicate them from the face of the planet.
February 7th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/02/01/kanchan-gupta-socks-it-well/
Needless, this crowd includes wholesale sections of the media. With drop-of-a-hat talk shows and manufactured opinions, the horrified secular media is behaving as if it has picked up the cue offered by Renuka Chowdhury. Her Disgraceful Eminence only needs to be reminded of her drug-induced stupor when the Talibanesque MIM flung chairs at Taslima Nasrin at a public function. Come Mangalore, she was wide awake in her sleep, quick to term the episode as Hindu Talibanization. That was the much-needed seed for a media digging vainly to spice up both their TRPs and their sadistic lives. 26/11 was dropped. Pakistan-watching (!) was dropped. The PM’s heart surgery was dropped. Enter the Hindu Taliban! Within days, they metamorphosed a mere incident of hooliganism into an event of apocalyptic proportion. Given the shrillery, the ordinary man would think Mangalore alone is ruled by the Taliban and the rest of Karnataka by the BJP. Nice.
February 7th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
what people did in mangalore pub is surely wrong. But comparing these goons to taliban is like comparing a shop lifter and osama bin laden. When congress banned girls serving liquor in mumbai, where were all there liberals? When fanatics in kashmir forced all women that wore purda and threw acid on the ones that did not, where were these liberals? what that outfit did in mangalore has to be condemned, but lets us not forget other issues… just 60 days back 300 people were killed in mumbai by unfriendly neighbours and education minister wants to recognize education in madrasaas as equivalent to board exams… let us focus on working on these issues too… not on what some 10 vandals did…
February 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters Pontifical Church Melbourne.
Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collaboration with Times Group.
The Hindu: English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne , Switzerland .. N. Ram’s wife is a Swiss national.
Indian Express: Divided into two groups. The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition) ACTS Christian Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with the Indian counterpart.
Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao.
Ramoji Rao is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh.
Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently.
The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India.
Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist)
Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major investment.
Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its chief Editor M.J. Akbar.
NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan . Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General Secretary of the Communist party of India . His wife and Brinda Karat are sisters.
India Today which used to be the only national weekly which supported BJP is now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned into Hindu bashing.
CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US.. The Church annually allocates $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.
Times group list:
Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust, Femina, Vijay Times, Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more…
Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. ‘World Christian Council¢ does 80 percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia Gandhi.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Nirmala Venkatesh’s past record shows why did she do it to blame pub rather than sri ram sene. As many people from Udupi know quite openly about her illicit affairs with karnataka home minister dr. v. s acharya for the past many years. They used to enjoy in udupi hotel karavali when i was working in the said hotel. It is nothing but a gesture of keeping orange monkeys out of lime light all done for the sake of dr. v.s acharya by his keep nirmala venkatesh.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Dear Deepak,
I am with you.Ignore all the morons and idiots who are writing all crap against you. COntiune with your crusade
February 10th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
::COntiune with your crusade
No, No Crusade is a word to describe muslims and christians killing each other or others in the name of religion. Our word is dharma loaded with reason and rationale. Not dogma.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:30 am
Great posts..keep it up..
February 12th, 2009 at 12:17 am
WHY IS NDTV, CNN-IBN not talking about this?
Muslim agitators had put up a road block for four hours in protest against an article published in The Statesman
http://thestatesman.net/page.arcview.php?clid=1&id=276123&usrsess=1
February 12th, 2009 at 12:18 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7883612.stm
The editor and publisher of a top English-language Indian daily have been arrested on charges of “hurting the religious feelings” of Muslims.
The Statesman’s editor Ravindra Kumar and publisher Anand Sinha were detained in Calcutta after complaints.
February 12th, 2009 at 12:18 am
The partiality of media and news channels
http://www.organiser.org/dynamic/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=276&page=22
February 13th, 2009 at 4:58 am
Pub Culture and Times of India:
Just read Swamy Dayanand Saraswathi’s views on Indian Media’s War on Hinduism. The war is not just against Hinduism. It is against Indian culture.
ToI in Bnagalore has sided openly on behalf of youngsters who want to have pub culture promoted. By this, the paper is also misleading all its readers. Recently ToI published what it called result of a survey and printed the report to say that 91% of youth want pub culture.
This is atrocious. The report does not indicate what was the sample size or the
area where
the Survey was taken. If persons on MG (Poor Mahatma Gandhi) or Brigade Road are
asked, they may overwhelmingly give an affirmative response. It is like asking
politicians in confidence whether corruption
has to be tolerated.
ToI has been open and boistrous. I do not have the means to fight a newspaper.
Can a group of
cultured persons, including Christians, Jains, Buddists and Moslems come
together and file a
PIL against ToI for publishing misleading articles?
Can we also request Swamy Dayanand Saraswathi to lead a big morcha against
de-culturing
Bangalore. This can be organised on Saturday trhe 7th of March, giving nearly a
month for
organising.
There is no point in discussing about the Union Minister Madam Renuka who has
asked young people to
fill the pubs! What disgrace. Is Sonia madam, being a devout Catholic and
cultured willing to silence her
minister.
Sai Prakash
Bangalore
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 am
Deepak…you are right in singling out English language media for being biased against Hinduism….Actually, only a few who go through English language education continue to have respect for their religion…If every personality you respect, every book you read…and every film you watch is from abroad. what respect will you have for your country and culture…India continues to functon as if its capital is in London on New York…
Our education system should be set right…and we must be taught to have respect for ourselves and our forefathers….Till this happens….you will find only namesake indians…their hearts will be owned by some Loony rock star….their minds would have become hostage to some alien concepts…I am all for pursuing the great classics all over the world…but we should not get swayed by the fads and fashions of the moment
April 16th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
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