Electronic Taliban media: NDTV issues fatwa against poor blogger, makes him apologize
These so-called journos are running their TV channels like a fief.
I did not know whether to laugh or cry when our oh-so-liberal-media made a poor blogger issue an apology all because he had the temerity to term NDTV’s coverage of Mumbai terrorist attack as “Shoddy Journalism”.
Now, Barkah Dutt — the self-righteous political editor of NDTV — has always been at the receiving end of the bloggers for her silly antics. There is no doubt that Barkha Dutt is an irresponsible shoddy journalist. She covered the Mumbai terrorist activities as if it were an IPL game. Her actions surely led to the loss of several lives. If it is not irresponsible shoddy journalism, then I shudder to think what real shoddy journalism is all about.
I do feel that the blogger should not have apologised after all he is entitled to free speech. And who is NDTV to issue a fatwa. They are the same persons who suggested a Bharat Ratna to M F Hussain for denigrating Mother India. They are the same persons who defended illegal dance bars in Mangalore. They should be penalised for their action.
Read this post where the poor blogger submitted to NDTV bullying:
http://ckunte.com/archives/withdrawal
Also read these excellent posts by Bloggers anonymous:
http://shripriya.com/blog/2009/01/28/shame-on-ndtv-and-barkha-dutt/
http://www.sandeepweb.com/2009/01/29/barkha-dutt-and-ndtv-the-joke-is-on-you/
Tailpiece: I would like NDTV to issue a fatwa against me. I will surely contest the case without a lawyer and win.
-----Email: greathindu@in.com
Fascist Trends in Indian Media
February 7th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Excellent Deepak,
Somebody should come on the scene to show the silly girl her place.
February 7th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Deepak kamat>>There is no doubt that Barkha Dutt is an irresponsible shoddy journalist.>>>
Not just Barkha Dutt, all the Journo’s of NDTV/CNN are the products of St.Stephens (you may call it as missionary school, not a Mangalore corporation school)…
Anyway, you can help it… Most of the members of Indian Press studied in prestigious Catholic Institutions .
I think you have a problem here!!!
February 7th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Btw,
Dear Deepak Kamat,
even if you take 10 rebirths, kinds like you, will never get admission in St.Stephens, a college, which all future journos’ wish to join
February 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
@Simon
I see that you have to oppose anything and everything that Deepak posts. I can predict even if Deepak embraces Christianity and writes an article praising it, you will oppose it. Everybody including the pseudosecularists have opposed the action of Barkha Dutt. Still you oppose Deepak just coz you have to.
February 7th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Dear Simon,
Even if you give me a million dollars and 72 houries in Islamic heaven, I don’t want admission in St. Stephen. I am happy with my gurukul and frugal Canara Institution where I studied.
February 7th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Brain Dead Media
http://ego.randomwalk.in/blog/2009/02/06/brain-dead/
February 7th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
::Still you oppose Deepak just coz you have to.
Missionaries at some point reach a point of no return.
February 7th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Deepak Kamat>>>Even if you give me a million dollars and 72 houries in Islamic heaven, I don’t want admission in St. Stephen>>
Keeping in mind your schooling, You will never get selected to St.Stephens… Or Barkha Dutt/Prannoy will never send their sons to Canara corporation schools/Gurukuls.
February 8th, 2009 at 12:39 am
@ Simon,
That’s their bad luck. Better luck in next life.
February 8th, 2009 at 3:44 am
So, Blore bomb blast case is solved… huh!! Gonna open any new discussion threads on this..!
February 8th, 2009 at 4:51 am
Definitely, the MLA daughter kidnapping case is solved. BTW, it is not Rama Sena, but CPI!
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8176&SKIN=B
February 8th, 2009 at 8:59 am
@Simon
You speak as if you completed your engineering at the iit and now doing your mba at iim. I’m sure you aren’t. Smart students do have the smartness to be humble.
February 9th, 2009 at 4:58 am
@Simon
Hope you have seen the faces of NDTV Journos going RED when their own propoganda and shit was thrown back on their faces hem by Hamid Mir whenever they tried to question Pakistan’s integrity… if you haven’t seen go to http://www.tubaah.com ( read it ‘Tabah’.com of NDTV)
I hope the Techno Manager will get his Facts right before following the ideology of Pseduo and ISI Embedded Journalists…
February 9th, 2009 at 8:19 am
Darshan>>@Simon
You speak as if you completed your >>>
Just because someone called me as a Church father (Padre), I thought of telling little about mine (Just to prove him wrong).
Anyways, thanks to the finest schooling I got it in the Catholic missionary school…. I could reach this academics, which you have apprehensively persumed!!
There is nothin’ more in to it. btw,Infront of God, we are all , humble human beings.
February 9th, 2009 at 8:55 am
@Simon
I haven’t presumed that you are all that. In fact I have presumed that you can’t be all that.
So tell me which one is right.
February 9th, 2009 at 9:59 am
I know Simon mone.
When it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s a duck.
When it walks like a padre and talks like a padre it’s a padre.
He was rejected both at IIT and IIM. But he is trying to complete his PhD thesis on “Converting Hindus in Mangalore region through online techniques” at International Missionary School, Vatican, Rome. His incoherent language, lack of reasoning and inability to influence Hindus has so far been cited as the reason for his repeated failures though his zeal is extraordinary. His professor watches his online language and has made this assessment.
A little Bird told me.
February 9th, 2009 at 10:02 am
BTW He is doing correspondence not in person. He is a brown rice Christian. Brown Rice Christians are treated as inferior by White Roman types. Hope this clears up his status.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Amy>>>inability to influence Hindus >>
If so, why you guys are worried about conversion? Why the need of Bajrangis. Monkey brigade, Ramsena and shiv sena?
So why all this fuzz?
Hmm!!.. Unofficial statistics say, Indian Christian population is 7%.. Even Hindutva/Manuvadi sites also claim the same..
February 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am
@Simon Uncle your Grand Uncle Vinod Dua was blowing trumpet on NDTV that Pakistan will take excuse of Narendra Modi’s statement that insider’s were also involved in Mumbai Attack.
Grand Dad of Hindi Journalism forgot that based on their baseless and crap journalsim, Pakistan demanded Col Purohit for Samjhauta Blast. Whereas Intelligence agencies and Government cleared his name from Samjhauta Blast.
Double Standards and Double Speak.
Half of the 7% are Christians for namesake becoz ur missionaries offered money to poor, still they perform Hindu rituals in their houses…. So you think and decide what the hell you got with money power …
February 9th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Avinash>>Half of the 7% are Christians for namesake becoz ur missionaries offered money to poor, still they perform Hindu rituals in their house>>>>
Do you have any problem in giving a helping hand to those who are in need of their daily bread? and medical assistance?
btw, its glad you are calling then 7% Indian christians as name sake.. Matter of fact, RSS/SangParivar is more worried about it, and wanting them to add as ‘Namesake Hindoos”….
Im sure your happy
February 9th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Amy>>BTW He is doing correspondence not in person. He is a brown rice Christian. Brown Rice Christians are treated as inferior by White Roman types. Hope this clears up his status>>
First of all it seems you have a problem with Brown and white, a typical caste hindu varna attitude..
Anyways, according to Jeudo=Christian view, God created all humans in his image, and hence, all human’s are entitile to have the basic human dignitiy, which was deprived in hinduism’s own Brahminism.. I would look forward to have an answer to this..
February 9th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Avinash>>Christians for namesake becoz ur missionaries offered money to poor, still they perform Hindu rituals in their houses>>>>
What ever… Have you checked it up, whether, they are following the teachings/commandments of Jesus Christ.. If not, they are Hindoos only… and you can be happy about it!!!
February 9th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
I would look forward to have an answer to this..
http://www.burningcross.net/crusades/crusade-in-india.html
February 9th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Message to Christians
It is our hope that Indian Christians will learn the right lessons from this and not allow themselves to be swayed by emotion and propaganda. It is futile for them to think that the West will intervene to save them if their leaders whip up a propaganda campaign against the Hindus. This is very shortsighted, for their greatest safeguard is the goodwill of the majority. The folly of their leaders, of trying to manipulate a Fundamentalist Muslim organization in a smear campaign against the Hindus and the Government could well result in a Muslim backlash as Gandhi found to his grief during the Khilafat Non-cooperation movement. Should that ever happen, neither the Pope nor their ‘leaders’, will be around to protect them. It is in their own interest to rebuild broken bridges with their Hindu brethren before it is too late. First and foremost they must give up any idea of turning India into a Christian country. It is a pipe dream.
In all this there seems to be a mystical belief in the power of the Pope to influence political decisions in the West, to intervene in India to protect Christian interests. This is a delusion carefully nurtured by their ‘leaders’ to serve their own interests. The Pope is an insignificant figure in Europe today and in much of the world. It is only in the imagination of Indian Christians – and in that of the convent educated ‘elite’ – that he seems a figure of heroic stature. To see a concrete example, Christians are being decimated in Pakistan but Western nations and financial organizations like the IMF and the World Bank are still prepared to consider aid packages. Their only concerns are economic like excessive budget deficits, not the persecution of Christians. Even Britain has lifted its arms embargo against Pakistan. This should tell them where Western nations place their priorities. When the Pope is prepared to sacrifice Christians in Pakistan to serve his propaganda campaign against the Vajpayee Government, he cannot be too concerned about the fate of Indian Christians. They exist only to serve as pawns in the Vatican’s foolhardy mission to convert a vulnerable India, by exploiting Hindu tolerance and the servility of the Indian elite.
It is the tragedy of Indian Christians that their ‘leaders’ do not lead them but instead serve their own foreign masters who have appointed them to their offices. In other words, there are no Christian leaders but only Church officials. Such ‘leaders’ are no more concerned about the real welfare of Christians in India than of those in Pakistan. Their loyalty is to the Mother Church and not to the motherland- or her people. Their concern is to remain in the good books of their mother organizations so that they can hold on to their secure positions and keep missionary money flowing. In this scheme, the lives of Indians – including Christians – are a dispensable commodity. To see this, just look at Pakistan. It is time for Indian Christians to give up their slave mentality towards foreign organizations and reclaim their human dignity.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Boycott, boycott, boycott anti-Hindu, anti-national channels, newsmedia whoever runs them. Its not hard to boycott. Just practice a bit, you can do that. Ignore them. Ignoring is the best lessions to teach someone.
Today there are many avenues to read and watch news and entertain. If not enough, create by yourself. Creativity brings more pleasure and rewards.
And ignore hindu-basher christian soul-harvestors. They come here only for Hindu-bashing. They never get tired, as it their whole religion. They can’t sleep without Hindu-bashing, as their God remains unhappy without hearing their ill words. It is the sad things in poor converted souls, they are brainwashed to hate themselves and their forfathers. I wish they look into their own roots and be proud of it and return.
Fellow Hindus, utilise your time and energy for your/familys development, societys development, national development. When you are strong, nobody can dare to touch you. Cultivate self-respect that will made your convictions stronger.
February 9th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Indian Media’s War on Hinduism
by Swami Jyotirmayananda
1. The Indian media: Its adverse role
There are many people in India who strongly feel that the so-called ‘secular’ print and electronic media, at least a dominant section among them, knowingly or unknowingly, is playing a very adverse and prejudiced role, when it comes to the reporting of the Hindu point of view. Suppressing or misrepresenting tactics are being liberally used along with admonitions and ridicules of the Hindus, ‘Hindutva’, and the Hindu Dharma. At the same time, this secular section appears to support the anti-Hindu forces in the country, which are active with their alien and subversive ideologies. In essence, it has come to mean that ‘secularism’ is nothing but opposition to Hindus, Hindustan, Hindutva and the Hindu Dharma. This is quite ridiculous in a country that is predominantly Hindu in its composition and character. This situation is agonizing to many and confusing to many more, since they would not get a true picture of what is going on in the country because of the prejudice of the media.
‘VivekaJyoti’, wants to do its bit to correct this situation. It has been trying and would also try in future, to throw light on those issues which get twisted or misrepresented by the ‘secular’ media. It is the considered view of ‘VivekaJyoti’ that in Bharat, a country with more than eighty percent of Hindu population and a hoary Hindu history, the true nationalism is undoubtedly ‘Hindutva’ and any neglect, denouncement or ridiculing of it is improper, unjust and ridiculous. The country would be truly free when ‘Hindutva’ gains its due respect, not ridicule as at present. Of course, this would be just a beginning of the country’s resurgence. Other larger issues are to be attended too. Various social injustices weakening the society, serious distortions in the field of socio-economic development, a chaotic situation in the political and administrative system and devitalized cultural and religious life—also are causes of concern, inviting correction. ‘VivekaJyoti’ would always try to focus the attention of its readers on these issues and goad them to do their bit in the service of the Motherland. It rededicates itself to that cause on the fourth year of its existence.
2. The Indian media: Why it is partial
The reasons for the selective propaganda by Indian media could be: a) Many leading journalists and media barons are Christians or Christian sympathizers; b) They are educated and indoctrinated in Christian run institutes; c) The media companies in India are completely under control of western companies through cross holdings; d) The media is advertising driven and almost all leading ad companies in India are foreign subsidiaries of global ad companies.
In the inimitable words of Sri V. Sundaram, IAS (Retd.), renowned columnist of Chennai, “all the mainline English Newspapers in India are deliberately Islam-embracing, Christianity-coveting, Hindu-hating and Hindu-baiting”. And, as revealed by Dr. Subramanian Swamy, “Academia, NGOs and mass media are the obvious instruments that are on the radar of anti-Hindu forces. Which and who are these forces that are shaping the anti-Hindu bias of the media? It is a coalition, not explicit but implicit, of Communist, Christian missionary, Islamic fanatics and other terrorist interests. Each of these interests has their own specific agenda. The anti-Hindu mentality of the English-dominated media in India is secured by the cozy nexus of media with academia and the English-speaking governing elite”.
“The Internet is full of anti-Hindu rubbish”, points out Swami Devananda Saraswati who is well known for his research on the ‘Myth of St. Thomas’. “It is impossible to tackle head on and piece by piece by individuals. That is why we have our own website (Hamsa.org) / blog (VivekaJyoti). We put our views and research out for public consumption with the hope that intelligent and honest readers chose us over the intellectual criminals. We must set up a legal association like the Jewish Defense League (DFL) in the United States, made up of Hindu lawyers. As soon as court cases start to be foisted on these missionaries, their conduct will change if not their attitude. But they have vast monetary resources behind them. Which Hindu moneybags would finance a Hindu legal team? Which Hindu lawyers (of which there are lakhs) would ever back a dedicated Hindu cause? At the root of our problem is the Hindu social and business elite class who could care less about their Dharma though they make huge donations to Balaji at Tirumala. We have to face this fact. We can do nothing until our own public intellectuals and rich socialites and industrialist class are behind us.”
3. Christian sponsorship of Indian media: An example
Here is a case study wherein the ‘Sify.com’, a major online Indian media outlet is working with ‘World Vision’, an evangelical body openly indulging in unabashed proselytisation with huge funds at their disposal for this purpose. Details about Sify.com’s partnership with the ‘World Vision’, patently a missionary agency, are online at: http://sify.com/news/antichildlabourday/ On this page, they are blatantly fundraising for them without informing the Indian public that they are missionaries. ‘World Vision’ also regularly advertises on Sify. It should be noted that the ‘World Vision’ has been implicated in induced conversions in Orissa and in Sri Lanka during the Tsunami. Look at a quote from the World Vision’s website regarding their “noble” mission: “Wherever we work, our prayer is that our efforts will be used by God to heal and strengthen people’s relationships with Him and with one another. We do this by demonstrating God’s unconditional love for all people through our service to the poor — which includes providing for daily needs, working to build peace and promote justice, and partnering with churches and individuals to encourage spiritual transformation.”
4. Countering the propaganda unleashed by the Indian media
The propaganda unleashed by the Indian media can be countered by supplementing the existing media channels and using internet as a tool to spread truth. Already in most western countries, TV and newspaper viewings are rapidly shrinking. Using Internet, ordinary individuals now have the same tools of potential exposure on a scale comparable to large media companies. Internet Media is the way to go. With this in mind ‘VivekaJyoti’ blog was conceived.
According to the recent reports, the total newspaper advertising revenues have declined at an almost continuously accelerating rate, and the advertising dollars are rapidly shifting from print media to online publications. While the online readership is steadily growing, the print publication readership is declining.
In view of the prevailing political bias in the mainstream Indian print media, the Hindu perspectives can be advocated much easier in an online medium than a print medium, because the online blogs have zero cost. Further, the online publications do not have to go through the mainstream and potentially, politically biased editors. The online publications are not only readable throughout India and throughout the world, they are interactive, and people can respond to posts via comments. Of course, there are also a few other challenges: There is a lack of non-English online blogs (example Hindi blogs). As more people who do not know English come online, this is a key area for content creation.
In this context, a reader of “VivekaJyoti’ has a thoughtful comment which is worth noting: “In view of the popularity and influence of the internet, I strongly feel that as yet the competition from print and visual media is overwhelming. In India, very few are connected to the net and out of them still fewer visit our sites or blogs. On the other hand millions read news papers and watch TV, both of which are controlled by unfriendly forces. Hence we may not expect too much about our influencing the public at large. At best they can inform the curious and educate the convinced (– Ashok Joshi, Chennai).
In this context Dr. Subramanian Swami has a very useful and practicable suggestion: “While owning one’s own media is difficult economics because the cost curve depends on advertising revenue, pro-Hindu forces should help market existing friendly or persuadable media in a wide circle. This will gain for pro-Hindu forces substantial influence”.
February 9th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Amy>>It is futile for them to think that the West will intervene to save them>>
Unlike Hindu nationalism, Christianity doest have any nationality. Jesus Christ is for all the man kind. Its the Saffronites, who want to alienate Christians from the Indian identity.
Unfortuante, they are all ruled by a Catholic lady. I think, looking at the chaos in BJP, she gonna rule second time too.
>>greatest safeguard is the goodwill of the majority>>
Every third of an Indian-hindus are educated in Christian schools. Will that bring good will? Or you want something more!!
>>>First and foremost they must give up any idea of turning India into a Christian country>>>
Christ never asked us to build ‘Christian Theocratic countries’. He just asked all of us to ‘Share the Good Message of God’ to all mankind. Do you have a problem with this?.
>>>The Pope is an insignificant figure in Europe today and in much of the world>>
Though he is a ‘Head of State”, he is not a political ruler. Indeed, he is the spritual global head for all Catholics in this world
>>>Their loyalty is to the Mother Church and not to the motherland- or her people>>
This is again the problem Hindutva and hindu nationalism, which fails to differentiate God & Religion. If you see through your Hindu-nationalistic goggle, you will get these kind of fears withing you. Come out of Hindu nationalism..Cos, that will lead to Hindu terrorism.
>>>It is time for Indian Christians to give up their slave mentality towards foreign organizations and reclaim their human dignity.>>>
Again your manuvadi perception.Pls check in to Indian official census site. Christians rank top in Literacy, Women Ration, health Index and Per Capita income.. Which ranks even above Brahminins.. Do you think, this would have been achieved with a slave mentality.. Possibly Yes, by being humble.
February 9th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Truth>>>Fellow Hindus, utilise your time and energy for your/familys development, societys development, national development. When you are strong, nobody can dare to touch you. Cultivate self-respect that will made your convictions stronger.>>
As long as caste hindus live,this becomes an impossible task.
How can you cultivate self respect among majority hindus, when you yourself and your scriptures forcibly codify 350Mn people as born low. Your own Hindu spritual leaders and acharyas approve of this kind of codification/stratification. Can any of your top hindu nationalistic/RSS leader come open to deny that caste doesnt exists? You only try to cover it up, saying, “its deeds, not birth”, but in reality, you butcher/slit/skin alive dalits..Please accept the fact.
Make all non-Brahmins as Brahmins… That will bring self-esteem among hindus, not by Christian bashing..
February 10th, 2009 at 12:29 am
simon,
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Every religions give good massage only its the ignorance thought looking only difference but viveykee look at unity only.
Mr.simon i dont find fault with chirst doctrine/moto its great. It is that indian veda says that teacher who teach value’s must be an example to vidyarthee. Are you sure/certain that Chiristianity is set an example to all other ignorant religion. If teacher teaching is agreeable only the teacher is example. Is that happening any where chiristian world. Just barring ngo who are doing business rather than any real service. But i dont deny something is beneficiary yet its not real example.
The chiristianity is failed in his own place please take this very important point. Find the reasoning for this and address to this isssue.
Love the enemy is your doctorine any one of chiristian love’s any hindu. No one (Sometime yourself & emmarcee ). Chiristian problem is that they dont want mukthis of their innerself they dont look into this matter rather they fond of conversion. Is that help a teacher if teacher is example people just flow . Take it from me if any one is example then people will run behind him/her this the nature’s theory.
February 10th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Krish-Easwar>>>Are you sure/certain that Chiristianity is set an example to all other ignorant religion.>>
All I have to say is, Jesus Christ has set an example for highest moral standards both by his teaching and living life.
But, there are some christians who follow it, and some do not follow, though claiming to be a christian for name sake.. And Christ is the greatest teacher/God/Father and he has set an ex. for all of us to follow.
>>>Love the enemy is your doctorine any one of chiristian love’s any hindu>>
First of all, let make it clear…. Hindu is not an enemy to christian. Be clear…
And according to Jesus Christ, a Christian should love a jew,moslem, hindu, communist etc etc
February 10th, 2009 at 3:57 am
@Simon
krish_eashwar has raised a very good point. You keep posting everywhere “Love thy enemy”. You yourself keep abusing Brahmins, Hindus, RSS, and so on. Do you have any record about any wrongs done by brahmins on lower castes? Don’t point out couple of incidents here and there. FYI Brahmin sins all put together is not even 0.0001% of sins committed by Christianity. Don’t tell me Christianity never tells you to commit all the sins and all those sinners can’t be called Christians. So does Hinduism. You call Sangh Parivaar Fascists just coz they endorse Hindu ideology. So according to you there shouldn’t be any Hindu organisations at all. Hindus should forever remain disorganised. Coz that will make your job easier. Lure ignorant Hindus and convert them. What about Christian organisations? Aren’t they fascists? Including the roman catholic church. What about the plight of Galileo, Copenicus, etc? Does Sun revolve around earth? You keep pointing about Sati system, dowry etc. What about corporal mortification, which is practiced even today by organisations like Opus Dei?
You call RSS terrorist organisation. Do you know whenever there is need like a road accident or a natural calamity, the Swayamsevaks are the first to reach for aid. Yeah even the Church does those things but they have an agenda for converting the victims. FYI the RSS has rescued even Christians and Muslims many times from life threatening situations. And it doesn’t convert.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:00 am
@Simon
“First of all, let make it clear…. Hindu is not an enemy to christian. Be clear…
And according to Jesus Christ, a Christian should love a jew,moslem, hindu, communist etc etc”
You put all this in theory. Do you actually practice it? All you do is indulge in Hindu bashing. Either you are really bad Christian or you are a very sincere and devout Christian and thats the way you love people.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:10 am
….and one more thing: Jesus was not all that tolerant. He even said that one who denies the holy spirit, would not be forgiven and he would forever be damned in hell. All other sins would be forgiven except that one. Its really meaningless. Commit a murder. Go to Church and seek indulgence and you are as pure as a baby. Again rape a woman. Go to Church and seek indulgence. I guess this is the reason Christianity gathered such a large following. Everything you do would be forgiven. Pretty attractive if you are a high profile criminal. Not denying the Holy Spirit is not at all such a big deal if you get all those benefits from it.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:11 am
I seek reply for every one of those posts.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:33 am
Darshan>>>You call RSS terrorist organisation. Do you know whenever there is need like a road accident or a natural calamity, the Swayamsevaks are the first to reach for aid>>
Joke of the millenia!!!
))) Just couldnt control my laughter 
Hmm!!! Actually RSS is the creators of Clamity … Like Torching alive, Butchering , Skinning alive, raping, looting.. Funny!!!
PS: All your queries will be responded during end of this day..
February 10th, 2009 at 4:42 am
@Simon
You can’t discard it as a joke. It only shows that you don’t have an answer and you are just trying ignore the fact. “Torching alive, Butchering , Skinning alive, raping, looting” These are all the typical sins committed by the Christian missionaries… So according to you RSS is a Christian missionary??
February 10th, 2009 at 4:49 am
RSS:
Assasins of Gandhiji… do you need any thing more in praise of it. RSS aid during Natural Calamity…. I have neither read nor heard/seen it.. Funny…
February 10th, 2009 at 4:49 am
And just coz you don’t know about those activities, you can’t say they don’t occur. Its your ignorance. RSS or any other Hindu organisation doesn’t get enough coverage on these activities. And the media starts giving coverage only when they talk about Hindutva giving the stereotyped image of the organisation. But where as the church is concerned, the coverage is vice versa. The media is a huge hypocrite. And one more thing, the swayamsevaks are not media savvy like the padres and they carry on the good work anonymously.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:53 am
Oh sorry for my ignorance, I didn’t know that Gandhi was raped, looted, torched alive, butchered, skinned alive before he was murdered.
And Gandhi indeed was a huge calamity that occured. More info about how he was a calamity, later.
February 10th, 2009 at 5:09 am
Darshan>>And one more thing, the swayamsevaks are not media savvy like the padres and they carry on the good work anonymously.>>>
Points taken. So,could you please list out some of the well known schools/Hospitals run by R.S.S? Just curious!!
February 10th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Btw, why the Indian media is so savvy towards Christians?
February 10th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Nirmala Venkatesh’s past record shows why did she do it to blame pub rather than sri ram sene. As many people from Udupi know quite openly about her illicit affairs with karnataka home minister dr. v. s acharya for the past many years. They used to enjoy in udupi hotel karavali when i was working in the said hotel. It is nothing but a gesture of keeping orange monkeys out of lime light all done for the sake of dr. v.s acharya by his keep nirmala venkatesh.
February 10th, 2009 at 6:56 am
For once i agree with simon that
mangalore municipality education will provide deepak kamat and christian education will barkha dutt .
It is no wonder that deepak was kicked out from every field for his loose english and municipality background.
It is no surprise that the grapes are sour…!
February 10th, 2009 at 7:02 am
nirmala venkatesh unbecoming of her post:
I have seen these together in compromising position and clugging each other on a picnic once to st. mary’s island off malpe.
she was acting like a model and falling all over to that big stomach V.S.Acharya. Any way both oof them were not in the position they occupy now. we had a hearty laugh at her nuances on our trip.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:53 am
@Suresh Bhatt & Deepak Bannadi
Stop posting crap.
@kiran p
Deepak doesn’t have a loose English.
February 10th, 2009 at 8:57 am
@Simon
“Btw, why the Indian media is so savvy towards Christians?”
For that read this article:
Indian Media’s War on Hinduism
by Swami Jyotirmayananda
1. The Indian media: Its adverse role
There are many people in India who strongly feel that the so-called ‘secular’ print and electronic media, at least a dominant section among them, knowingly or unknowingly, is playing a very adverse and prejudiced role, when it comes to the reporting of the Hindu point of view. Suppressing or misrepresenting tactics are being liberally used along with admonitions and ridicules of the Hindus, ‘Hindutva’, and the Hindu Dharma. At the same time, this secular section appears to support the anti-Hindu forces in the country, which are active with their alien and subversive ideologies. In essence, it has come to mean that ‘secularism’ is nothing but opposition to Hindus, Hindustan, Hindutva and the Hindu Dharma. This is quite ridiculous in a country that is predominantly Hindu in its composition and character. This situation is agonizing to many and confusing to many more, since they would not get a true picture of what is going on in the country because of the prejudice of the media.
‘VivekaJyoti’, wants to do its bit to correct this situation. It has been trying and would also try in future, to throw light on those issues which get twisted or misrepresented by the ‘secular’ media. It is the considered view of ‘VivekaJyoti’ that in Bharat, a country with more than eighty percent of Hindu population and a hoary Hindu history, the true nationalism is undoubtedly ‘Hindutva’ and any neglect, denouncement or ridiculing of it is improper, unjust and ridiculous. The country would be truly free when ‘Hindutva’ gains its due respect, not ridicule as at present. Of course, this would be just a beginning of the country’s resurgence. Other larger issues are to be attended too. Various social injustices weakening the society, serious distortions in the field of socio-economic development, a chaotic situation in the political and administrative system and devitalized cultural and religious life—also are causes of concern, inviting correction. ‘VivekaJyoti’ would always try to focus the attention of its readers on these issues and goad them to do their bit in the service of the Motherland. It rededicates itself to that cause on the fourth year of its existence.
2. The Indian media: Why it is partial
The reasons for the selective propaganda by Indian media could be: a) Many leading journalists and media barons are Christians or Christian sympathizers; b) They are educated and indoctrinated in Christian run institutes; c) The media companies in India are completely under control of western companies through cross holdings; d) The media is advertising driven and almost all leading ad companies in India are foreign subsidiaries of global ad companies.
In the inimitable words of Sri V. Sundaram, IAS (Retd.), renowned columnist of Chennai, “all the mainline English Newspapers in India are deliberately Islam-embracing, Christianity-coveting, Hindu-hating and Hindu-baiting”. And, as revealed by Dr. Subramanian Swamy, “Academia, NGOs and mass media are the obvious instruments that are on the radar of anti-Hindu forces. Which and who are these forces that are shaping the anti-Hindu bias of the media? It is a coalition, not explicit but implicit, of Communist, Christian missionary, Islamic fanatics and other terrorist interests. Each of these interests has their own specific agenda. The anti-Hindu mentality of the English-dominated media in India is secured by the cozy nexus of media with academia and the English-speaking governing elite”.
“The Internet is full of anti-Hindu rubbish”, points out Swami Devananda Saraswati who is well known for his research on the ‘Myth of St. Thomas’. “It is impossible to tackle head on and piece by piece by individuals. That is why we have our own website (Hamsa.org) / blog (VivekaJyoti). We put our views and research out for public consumption with the hope that intelligent and honest readers chose us over the intellectual criminals. We must set up a legal association like the Jewish Defense League (DFL) in the United States, made up of Hindu lawyers. As soon as court cases start to be foisted on these missionaries, their conduct will change if not their attitude. But they have vast monetary resources behind them. Which Hindu moneybags would finance a Hindu legal team? Which Hindu lawyers (of which there are lakhs) would ever back a dedicated Hindu cause? At the root of our problem is the Hindu social and business elite class who could care less about their Dharma though they make huge donations to Balaji at Tirumala. We have to face this fact. We can do nothing until our own public intellectuals and rich socialites and industrialist class are behind us.”
3. Christian sponsorship of Indian media: An example
Here is a case study wherein the ‘Sify.com’, a major online Indian media outlet is working with ‘World Vision’, an evangelical body openly indulging in unabashed proselytisation with huge funds at their disposal for this purpose. Details about Sify.com’s partnership with the ‘World Vision’, patently a missionary agency, are online at: http://sify.com/news/antichildlabourday/ On this page, they are blatantly fundraising for them without informing the Indian public that they are missionaries. ‘World Vision’ also regularly advertises on Sify. It should be noted that the ‘World Vision’ has been implicated in induced conversions in Orissa and in Sri Lanka during the Tsunami. Look at a quote from the World Vision’s website regarding their “noble” mission: “Wherever we work, our prayer is that our efforts will be used by God to heal and strengthen people’s relationships with Him and with one another. We do this by demonstrating God’s unconditional love for all people through our service to the poor — which includes providing for daily needs, working to build peace and promote justice, and partnering with churches and individuals to encourage spiritual transformation.”
4. Countering the propaganda unleashed by the Indian media
The propaganda unleashed by the Indian media can be countered by supplementing the existing media channels and using internet as a tool to spread truth. Already in most western countries, TV and newspaper viewings are rapidly shrinking. Using Internet, ordinary individuals now have the same tools of potential exposure on a scale comparable to large media companies. Internet Media is the way to go. With this in mind ‘VivekaJyoti’ blog was conceived.
According to the recent reports, the total newspaper advertising revenues have declined at an almost continuously accelerating rate, and the advertising dollars are rapidly shifting from print media to online publications. While the online readership is steadily growing, the print publication readership is declining.
In view of the prevailing political bias in the mainstream Indian print media, the Hindu perspectives can be advocated much easier in an online medium than a print medium, because the online blogs have zero cost. Further, the online publications do not have to go through the mainstream and potentially, politically biased editors. The online publications are not only readable throughout India and throughout the world, they are interactive, and people can respond to posts via comments. Of course, there are also a few other challenges: There is a lack of non-English online blogs (example Hindi blogs). As more people who do not know English come online, this is a key area for content creation.
In this context, a reader of “VivekaJyoti’ has a thoughtful comment which is worth noting: “In view of the popularity and influence of the internet, I strongly feel that as yet the competition from print and visual media is overwhelming. In India, very few are connected to the net and out of them still fewer visit our sites or blogs. On the other hand millions read news papers and watch TV, both of which are controlled by unfriendly forces. Hence we may not expect too much about our influencing the public at large. At best they can inform the curious and educate the convinced (– Ashok Joshi, Chennai).
In this context Dr. Subramanian Swami has a very useful and practicable suggestion: “While owning one’s own media is difficult economics because the cost curve depends on advertising revenue, pro-Hindu forces should help market existing friendly or persuadable media in a wide circle. This will gain for pro-Hindu forces substantial influence”.
Also read:
Star TV: It is run by an Australian, who is supported by St. Peters Pontifical Church Melbourne.
Hindustan Times: Owned by Birla Group, but hands have changed since Shobana Bhartiya took over. Presently it is working in Collaboration with Times Group.
The Hindu: English daily, started over 125 years has been recently taken over by Joshua Society, Berne , Switzerland .. N. Ram’s wife is a Swiss national.
Indian Express: Divided into two groups. The Indian Express and new Indian Express (southern edition) ACTS Christian Ministries have major stake in the Indian Express and latter is still with the Indian counterpart.
Eeenadu: Still to date controlled by an Indian named Ramoji Rao.
Ramoji Rao is connected with film industry and owns a huge studio in Andhra Pradesh.
Andhra Jyothi: The Muslim party of Hyderabad known as MIM along with a Congress Minister has purchased this Telugu daily very recently.
The Statesman: It is controlled by Communist Party of India.
Kairali TV: It is controlled by Communist party of India (Marxist)
Mathrubhoomi: Leaders of Muslim League and Communist leaders have major investment.
Asian Age and Deccan Chronicle: Is owned by a Saudi Arabian Company with its chief Editor M.J. Akbar.
NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain Supports Communism. Recently it has developed a soft corner towards Pakistan because Pakistan President has allowed only this channel to be aired in Pakistan . Indian CEO Prannoy Roy is co-brother of Prakash Karat, General Secretary of the Communist party of India . His wife and Brinda Karat are sisters.
India Today which used to be the only national weekly which supported BJP is now bought by NDTV!! Since then the tone has changed drastically and turned into Hindu bashing.
CNN-IBN: This is 100 percent funded by Southern Baptist Church with its branches in all over the world with HQ in US.. The Church annually allocates $800 million for promotion of its channel. Its Indian head is Rajdeep Sardesai and his wife Sagarika Ghosh.
Times group list:
Times Of India, Mid-Day, Nav-Bharth Times, Stardust, Femina, Vijay Times, Vijaya Karnataka, Times now (24- hour news channel) and many more…
Times Group is owned by Bennet & Coleman. ‘World Christian Council¢ does 80 percent of the Funding, and an Englishman and an Italian equally share balance 20 percent. The Italian Robertio Mindo is a close relative of Sonia Gandhi.
February 10th, 2009 at 9:31 am
“Points taken. So,could you please list out some of the well known schools/Hospitals run by R.S.S? Just curious!!”
There is a school called Rashtrotthana in a place called Garag near Dharwad.
BTW RSS doesn’t get as much fund from the west and the media makes sure that even Indians don’t fund it by projecting it as a terrorist organisation. Still it has managed to run some schools. And moreover these schools don’t have an agenda to convert people.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:42 am
“NDTV: A very popular TV news media is funded by Gospels of Charity in Spain Supports Communism”@@@?????
what kind of stupidity is this. Also, about CNN, the liberal media conglomerate who are supposedly Christian bashers in the west are supported by Baptists?
You must be crazy to belive this propaganda. I can understand if you feel this way. For example, in USA, the main stream media is clearly seen as “antichristian”. There is a reason for that. They think progressively, and tend to be left leaning. This is good, since there needs to be somebody talking against the majority Fascist factions. (If Christian right wing in the west, it will be Saffron family in India). If everybody joins Ramasena, India will be the next Nazi state, right?
February 10th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
>>> For example, in USA, the main stream media is clearly seen as “antichristian”. There is a reason for that.
The reason is REASON itself. In USA reason prevails over christian crap. So CNN, MSNBC are all smart enough. Only FOXNews still prefers missionaries. It will also die. US survived from Christianity evils to some extent but wants to use religion as a tool in countries like India.
BAD FOLKS
Christian right wing in the west = Christian right wing in East aka missionaries + Jehadi scums.
GOOD FOLKS
Christian liberals in West = Saffron
Hitler was a Nazi who believed he was good christian doing his GOD’s work killing jews. So we know better. We are trying to avoid nazis like you taking control
February 10th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
ENJOY
Hitler Was a Christian
The Holocaust was caused by Christian fundamentalism:
http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm
February 10th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
The Holocaust was caused by Christian fundamentalism:
History is currently being distorted by the millions of Christians who lie to have us believe that the Holocaust was not a Christian deed. Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today’s Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian in order to place his misdeeds on those with out Jesus. However, from the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers. Those who would make Hitler an atheist should turn their eyes to history books before they address their pews and chat rooms.
Considering that Christianity has thus far been incapable of producing an unbiased, educated follower which speaks the truth, (I haven’t encountered any), I have been forced to dispel the myth by writing this essay. It is not until I bring up his speeches, my personal info on the Nazi regime and their tactics that a Christian will begin to question what their clergy told them. (I am the offspring of a German soldier. My Opa served under Hitler in WW2 and my father was raised during the time of the Nazi regime. This is important information to take into consideration for I am privy to some info that most Americans do not know. It is common for American media and education institutions to lie to their citizens concerning Nazi Germany.) So, in presenting this information I must break it into four parts: 1) Facts about Hitler and his involvement with the Church. 2) How the Church was the catalyst for anti- Semitism. 3) Facts concerning how the Nazi regime drilled these beliefs into Germanic society. 4) Quotes Hitler made which prove he had a disdain for atheism/occultism, upheld his Christian faith, and hated Jews due to his Christianity.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
How the Nazi Regime converted the people:
a) In the 1920s, Hitler’s German Workers’ Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a “Programme” with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a “positive” Christianity: “We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession…”
b) The Nazi regime started a youth movement which preached its agenda to impressionable children. Hitler backed up the notion that all people need faith and religious education: “By helping to raise man above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to the securing and safeguarding of his existence. Take away from present-day mankind its education-based, religious- dogmatic principles– or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles– by abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of their existence.” – Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
c) The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that Christianity was taught.
d) The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until 1961.
e) The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to forcibly convert all its military.
f) The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on military gear. An example here is this German army belt buckle (I believe my Opa had one) which reads “Gott Mit Uns”. For those of you who do not speak German it is translated as “God With Us”.
g) The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on a maneuver.
h) The Nazis created a secret service called the “SS Reich” that would act as spies on the dealings of other citizens. If anyone was suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted.
February 10th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Quotes from Hitler:
Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack the Jews and uphold his anti-Semitism:
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
ENJOY more http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm
February 10th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
NAZI CHRISTIAN PHOTOS
http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
February 10th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
OMG
Jesus IS Hitler
http://www.sprengmeister.org/nsfw/jesusishitler/
February 10th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
If everybody joins Ramasena, India will be the next Nazi state, right?
NO
BUT
If everybody joins DYFI and CPI(M) answer is
YES!
February 10th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
THIS NEEDS TO BE A BIG NEWS.
Christian sponsorship of Indian media: An example
Here is a case study wherein the `Sify.com’, a major online Indian
media outlet is working with `World Vision’, an evangelical body
openly indulging in unabashed proselytisation with huge funds at their disposal for this purpose [Rs 256 crores this year according to Home Ministry records]. Details about Sify.com’s partnership with the
`World Vision’, patently a missionary agency, are online at:
http://sify.com/news/antichildlabourday/ On this page, they are
blatantly fundraising for them without informing the Indian public
that they are missionaries. `World Vision’ also regularly advertises
on Sify. It should be noted that the `World Vision’ has been
implicated in induced conversions in Orissa and in Sri Lanka during
the Tsunami. Look at a quote from the World Vision’s website regarding their “noble” mission: “Wherever we work, our prayer is that our efforts will be used by God to heal and strengthen people’s relationships with Him and with one another. We do this by
demonstrating God’s unconditional love for all people through our
service to the poor — which includes providing for daily needs,
working to build peace and promote justice, and partnering with
churches and individuals to encourage spiritual transformation.”
February 10th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
CHRISTIANS FIGHTING FOR SOULS, DESTROYING ANNDHRA PRADESH
http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/YSRs-evangelist-soninlaw-triggers-war-of-words/421191/
See this inculturation technque
Jesus Christ is a God of relationship, not a God of a particular religion. What next? Jesus is god of muslims. I wish he said that, then problem will be solved by IM ror SIMI
February 10th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
“her cunt” or “cunt her” what’s your problem?
I will repeat what Amy said. That’s a well known fact. And well meaning christians are saying it in a web site created by them. If you have a problem write to the web master of that site
Jesus IS Hitler
http://www.sprengmeister.org/nsfw/jesusishitler/
February 10th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Padres are cleaning up history but it’s too late. Internet is a powerful weapon and Truth will not be hidden forever.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Too little too late to disown Hitler now.
http://nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
Hitler’s Christianity
To deny the influence of Christianity on Hitler and its role in World War II, means that you must ignore history and forever bar yourself from understanding the source of German anti-Semitism and how the WWII atrocities occurred.
By using historical evidence of Hitler’s and his henchmen’s own words, this section aims to show how mixing religion with politics can cause conflicts, not only against religion but against government and its people. This site, in no way, condones Nazism, Neo-Nazism, fascist governments, or anti-Semitism, but instead, warns against them.
Hitler wrote: “I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..” As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself.
ENJOY the TRUTH!
February 10th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
THE BEST PROOF IS HERE
The German words, “Gott Mit Uns” means God With Us and appeared on many Nazi soldiers belt buckles during WWII.
http://nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm
February 10th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
and you are stuck in her cunt
or cunther or whatever
February 10th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
CUNT HER OR in her cunt
NAZI PHOTOS FOR THE WORLD TO SEE
http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF HOLOCAUSTS?
February 10th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
A PICTURE IS WORTH MILLION WORDS
AND
WHEN THERE ARE MILLION PICTURES WHAT CAN YOU SAY
February 10th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
HITLER MYTH coming from padre ‘CUNT HER’ demolished here
http://nobeliefs.com/hitler-myths.htm
Myth 1: Hitler was not a Christian
The entire section on Hitler’s Christianity provides ample evidence for his brand of Christianity. The evidence itself destroys any opinions or beliefs about Hitler’s alleged apostasy.
The evidence shows that:
Hitler was born and baptized into Catholicism
His Jewish antisemitism came from his Christian background.
His early personal notes shows his interest in religion and Biblical views.
He believed that the Bible represented the history of mankind.
His Nazi party platform (their version of a constitution) included a section on Positive Christianity, and he never removed it.
He confessed his Christianity.
He tried to establish a united Reich German Church.
Hitler allowed the destruction of Jewish synagogues and temples, but not Christian churches.
He encouraged Nazis to worship in Christian churches.
He spoke of his Christian beliefs in his speeches and proclamations.
His contemporaries, friends, Protestant ministers and Catholics priests, including the Vatican, thought of Hitler as a Christian.
The Catholic Church never excommunicated Hitler. He died a Catholic.
To ignore the evidence of Hitler’s Christianity demonstrates how power of belief can obscure the facts.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
THIS IS THE BEST ONE TO BE PLUGGED INTO cunther
The Catholic Church never excommunicated Hitler. He died a Catholic.
February 10th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
************Assasins of Gandhiji… do you need any thing more in praise of it. RSS********
Godse himself explained in the court the reason why he had severed his connections with Sangh and categorically declared “I left the RSS.” Godse did not agree with RSS on many points; for example, its refusal to get involved in day-to-day politics or to become an appendage of any political party. Hence he decided to form a militant volunteer body by himself. Accordingly in 1942 he launched the Hindu Rashtra Dal.
Also, Godse had stated in court that he was a Congress member earlier.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:23 am
HITLER MYTH coming from padre ‘CUNT HER’ demolished here
Myth 1: Hitler was not a Christian
The entire section on Hitler’s Christianity provides ample evidence for his brand of Christianity. The evidence itself destroys any opinions or beliefs about Hitler’s alleged
WHATEVER IT IS DEEPAK KAMAT, ( KIRAN KP)
HE WAS THE INSPIRATION FOR RSS FOR SURE THAT IS WHY THEY WENT TO MEET HIM AND MUSOLINI BEFORE STARTING RSS ON THE SAME IDEALOGY; SUPREMACY OF WHITE SKIN OVER DARK SKIN..HE HE HE !
February 11th, 2009 at 1:41 am
“WHATEVER IT IS DEEPAK KAMAT, ( KIRAN KP)
HE WAS THE INSPIRATION FOR RSS FOR SURE THAT IS WHY THEY WENT TO MEET HIM AND MUSOLINI BEFORE STARTING RSS ON THE SAME IDEALOGY; SUPREMACY OF WHITE SKIN OVER DARK SKIN..HE HE HE !”
They did not go to meet him to get his ideology. They went there to get support against the British. I think this hurted people like you kissing the white British asses coz you wont be getting any more. And stop posting under names like Pradeep Shenoy/Deepali Kamat, etc. You can stick to your own old names like Simon/Emmarcee/Cunther etc.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Darshan
They did not go to meet him to get his ideology. They went there to get support against the British.
Reality:
If RSS guys went there and sought hitler’s help inspite of knowing his idealogy why do you blame his christainity?
Jab zaroori ho to gadhe ko bhi banalewale ko kehte hain orange monkeys.
one more thing i am no deepali emmracee or simon counter etc. but every one knows that rajan darshan suresh bhat and kiran p are not many but one fool called deepak kamat.
February 11th, 2009 at 4:01 am
simon,
Joke of the millenia!!!
))) Just couldnt control my laughter
Hmm!!! Actually RSS is the creators of Clamity … Like Torching alive, Butchering , Skinning alive, raping, looting.. Funny!!!
recently chiristian sister/father around 40 were travelled to himalaya in a bus which fallen under 25feet to 40ft those who were injured were rescued by Rss people with great risk that too before govt/millitary help which i red it about year back. Idont say its very big thing, but stell dont assume one should not be in some other world.
February 11th, 2009 at 4:24 am
simon,
First of all, let make it clear…. Hindu is not an enemy to christian. Be clear…
And according to Jesus Christ, a Christian should love a jew,moslem, hindu, communist etc etc
Kindly let me know that who is your chiristian enemy , can i assume that other than chiristian? hindu, muslim jew
Whom do you (chirist) love & how by converting them from one religion to other religion.
Your love thy enemy is only educating dharma and helping them or they have to change thier name and religion name.
Do the god of chirist wants people to changes only name or he does not require any change in name of person/religion but bukthi and shradha and dharma(aram porul inbam veedu – artha kama moksha)
February 11th, 2009 at 4:37 am
:: HE WAS THE INSPIRATION FOR RSS FOR SURE
Padre Deepshit naayi
WHO SAYS SO FOR SURE? YOUR CHRISTA
February 11th, 2009 at 4:39 am
:: why do you blame his christainity?
Because MILLIONS OF JEWS were slaughtered in the name of Jesus you dimwit bible thumping padre
February 11th, 2009 at 4:40 am
NAZI PHOTOS FOR THE WORLD TO SEE
http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO FOLLOW THE RELIGION OF HOLOCAUSTS?
A PICTURE IS WORTH MILLION WORDS
AND
WHEN THERE ARE MILLION PICTURES WHAT CAN YOU SAY
February 11th, 2009 at 4:46 am
Please ignore the rants of rice christians like emmarcee, simon and her cunt. Just like IT outsourcing conversion outsourcing has been passed onto brown rice christians in India. For 2 kg rice. The western white plan is to create enough christians in India so that Jehadis can target local christians instead of Western christians. Says who? Read this
India a sponge protecting US: Ashley Tellis tells US Senate
A news agency report on a hearing held on January 28, 2009 by the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs summarizes the testimony of Ashley Tellis, strategic affairs expert and an influential policy adviser, as follows:
QUOTE:
India has become the “sponge” that was protecting the United States and the West from the terror campaign of Lashkar-e-Tayiba and is absorbing most of the blows unleashed by terrorist groups in Pakistan.
LeT, which has been blamed for the Mumbai attacks, remains a terrorist organisation of genuinely global reach and represents a threat to regional and global security, second only to Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda.
Tellis, a Senior Associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, made these remarks while testifying before the Senate committee on homeland security and governmental affairs on Wednesday on the November 26 terrorist attacks in Mumbai and their consequences for the US.
“India has unfortunately become the sponge that protects us all. India’s very proximity to Pakistan, which has developed into the epicenter of global terrorism during the last 30 years, has resulted in New Delhi absorbing most of the blows unleashed by those terrorist groups that treat it as a common enemy along with Israel, the United States, and the West more generally,” he said.
Tellis said the Barack Obama administration should keep Pakistan’s feet to the fire and ensure that Islamabad makes good on its promises to take on terrorist groups.
Washington should also demand more of Islamabad precisely because the LeT threatens to become a significant global terrorist threat, he said, adding, the US should insist that Islamabad roll up and eliminate the entire LeT infrastructure of terrorism that currently exists inside of Pakistan.
Tellis also termed India’s response to the Mumbai attack as inadequate and suggested that New Delhi should set up a body on the lines of America’s national counter-terrorism centre and take US help.
Tellis said since the launch of the global war on terror post 9/11, Inter-Services Intelligence’s assistance to LeT has become more recessed but it has by no means ended, even though the organisation was formally banned by then Pakistans president Pervez Musharraf on January 12, 2002.
Throwing light on LeT’s links with Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence, Tellis said the terror group has received strong financial, material, and operational support from Pakistan’s powerful spy agency — including from its field stations in Nepal, Sri Lanka, andBangladesh — because of the growing conviction within the Pakistan military that the war against India could never be won if the hostilities were to be confined only to Jammu and Kashmir issue .
While India has occupied the lion’s share of LeT attention in recent years, he said the organisation has not by any means restricted itself to keeping only India in its sights.
LeT was from the very beginning a preferred ward of the ISI, enjoying all the protection offered by the Pakistani state, he added. Even when Pakistan, under considerable US pressure, formally banned LeT as a terrorist organization in 2002, the LeT leadership remained impregnable and impervious to all international political pressure.
Tellis said it would be a gross error to treat the terrorism facing India, including the terrible recent atrocities as simply a problem for New Delhi alone.
In a very real sense, the outrage in Mumbai was fundamentally a species of global terrorism not merely because the assailants happened to believe in an obscurantist brand of Islam but, more importantly, because killing Indians turned out to be simply interchangeable with killing citizens of some 15 different nationalities for no apparent reason whatsoever.
UNQUOTE.
(http://www.rediff.com/news/2009/jan/29mumterror-nia-will-not-be-able-to-prevent-terror-attacks-says-expert.htm).
To watch and listen to the hearings. please click: http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Hearings.Detail&HearingID=4bad8b13-1ed8-4ea4-8ed7-0c020c6205f4
(It takes some time for the video to start).
For the text of Ashley Tellis’s prepared testimony. please click: http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/012809Tellis.pdf
February 11th, 2009 at 8:08 am
simon,
Joke of the millenia!!!
))) Just couldnt control my laughter
Hmm!!! Actually RSS is the creators of Clamity … Like Torching alive, Butchering , Skinning alive, raping
During tsunami badly hit area is Call nagapatinam/vellankani in tamilnadu,
My company also contributed, hence i had been to that area i had noticed my self that only Rss men servicing around there no body else. That area belong to comunist party yet there is no red shart seen during this time. But only Kaki half trasure Rss men who were able to recover 4000 bodies from various location most of them are chiristian/indian some muslim
But english media did not publish hence you may not be knowing.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:00 am
This is a old debate and we can go back and forth. Ofcourse Germany was a Christian Catholic country. Hitler might have used religion to get people together in the beginning. But the crazy ideology of Nazism and Arian supremacy can never be equated with real Chriatian doctrines. Vatican was criticized for being silent. Bit the church itself says they worked to improve the situation.
The site s like nobelief is clearly antichristian and there is no difference between quoting from that or quoting from Greathindu.
Some ignorant blogger says the photo site is from “true Chrsitians”. You don’t have any clue, do you?
All “white westerners” are not Christians. There are plenty of atheistic liberals. Lots of them jews. They hated Christianity. Even from the beginning, they sided with Romans (before Constanitine) in persecuting Christians. At the time of moores, they plotted with them in the conquest of Iberia. Toledoth Jesu is a prime example how much they hated Jesus. They think Christinity split their community. The proverbial “stumbling block”. This hate, combined with the atrocities they had to suffer in Christian Europe makes them try to spread rumors about the Person of Jesus and the faith called Christianity. Does not matter it was the other part of Christian Europe which came to their rescue. This fight will go on till the end of the days.
AS I said before, Muslims are much closer to Christians than jews.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:03 am
and of course you cry for “millions of Jews” but do not have a problem with the Indian Hitler Narendra Modi.
Let the dead take care of themselves.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Great Hinduism. Probably casteism involved as well. That is when they really kill them.
News
MSNBC.com
Eight beheaded after India wedding dispute
Wealthy bride’s kin allegedly killed poverty-stricken groom’s relatives
Reuters
updated 6:54 a.m. ET, Wed., Feb. 11, 2009
PATNA, India – Eight members of a man’s poverty-ridden family were shot and beheaded before their bodies were thrown into a river in eastern India after he secretly married a wealthy girl, police said Wednesday.
Police in the eastern state of Bihar found the eight bodies floating in a river and have charged 15 people, mostly from the girl’s family, with the murders.
The weekend killing took place after 21-year-old Ratan Mandal eloped with 18-year-old Kanchan Kumari and got married secretly, afraid their families would never approve due to an old social rivalry.
“The girl’s family invited the boy’s family for a meeting on the pretext of settling the dispute, but killed all eight and beheaded them,” said Raghunath Prasad Singh, a senior police officer from Bhagalpur, where the incident took place.
Lawless region
Bhagalpur, one of India’s most lawless regions, has been notorious for revenge and honor killings.
Men and women are still murdered across the villages of eastern and northern India for daring to marry outside their caste.
In May last year, a young couple was murdered by the girl’s family in northern India for marrying within the same village, considered taboo in many communities.
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February 11th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
What did Voltaire say:
“If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.”
“Every sensible man, every honorable man, must hold the Christian sect in horror.”
“Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense.”
“Christianity is the most ridiculous, the most absurd and bloody religion that has ever infected the world.”
You will notice that in all disputes between Christians since the birth of the Church, Rome has always favored the doctrine which most completely subjugated the human mind and annihilated reason.
Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense.
As you know, the Inquisition is an admirable and wholly Christian invention to make the pope and the monks more powerful and turn a whole kingdom into hypocrites.
Of all religions the Christian is without doubt the one which should inspire tolerance most, although up to now the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men.
The son of God is the same as the son of man; the son of man is the same as the son of God. God, the father, is the same as Christ, the son; Christ, the son, is the same as God, the father. This language may appear confused to unbelievers, but Christians will readily understand it.
God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.
Every sensible man, every honorable man, must hold the Christian sect in horror.
Superstition, born of paganism and adopted by Judaism, invested the Christian Church from earliest times. All the fathers of the Church, without exception, believed in the power of magic. The Church always condemned magic, but she always believed in it: she did not excommunicate sorcerers as madmen who were mistaken, but as men who were really in communication with the devil.
The first priest was the first rogue who met the first fool.
Holy Scripture: A book sent down from heaven… Holy Scriptures contain all that a Christian should know and believe, provided he adds to it a million or so commentaries.
Hell: A cooking stove which heats the sacerdotal sauce-pan here below. It was founded on behalf of our priests, to the end that the latter may never be wanting in good cheer.
Moses: A prophet inspired of God who gave him a holy and righteous law, which he was obliged to change later on, seeing that it had become worthless… He was the meekest of men, as he himself tells us.
Inspiration: A peculiar effect of divine flatulence emitted by the Holy Spirit which hisses into the ears of a few chosen of God…
http://www.burningcross.net/crusades/famous-quotes-christianity.html
February 11th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Benjamin Franklin’s words are stunning.
“Original sin was as ridiculous as imputed righteousness.”
“I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works … I mean real good works … not holy-day keeping, sermon-hearing … or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity.”
“As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and his religion…has received various corrupting changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the Truth with less trouble.”
Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.
He [the Rev. Mr. Whitefield] used, indeed, sometimes to pray for my conversion, but never had the satisfaction of believing that his prayers were heard.
http://www.burningcross.net/crusades/famous-quotes-christianity.html
February 11th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
It does not take Voltaire:
If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.” (truth even in Bharath)
“Every sensible man, every honorable man, must hold the Brahminic sect in horror.”
“Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the Brahminic dogmas than reason and common sense.”
“Hindusim is the most ridiculous, the most absurdly foolish, bizzare and bloody religion that has ever infected the world.”
You will notice that in all disputes between since the birth of the Brahministic hegemony, Kings has always favored the doctrine of Varna which most completely subjugated the human mind and annihilated reason.
As you know, the annihilation of Budhist monks was an admirable and wholly Brahminic invention to make the Kings and the preists more powerful and turn a whole subcontinent into stone worshippers.
Of all religions Budhism is without doubt the one which should inspire tolerance most, although that tolerance caused ther annihilation in the birth place of Gautama.
The son of God is the same as the son of man; the son of man is the same as the son of God. God, the father, is the same as Christ, the son; Christ, the son, is the same as God, the father. This language may appear confused to unbelievers, but Hindus should be able to understand the langauge because it meshes well with their own believes in Avatars.
God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. But in Hidnusim, the God is an egg waiting to be smashed open.
Every sensible man, every honorable man, must hold the Fire worshipping Brahminic sect in horror.
Superstition, born from Aryan nomads and adopted by yogic local Indians, grew in Hindu mythology from earliest times. All the writers of Vedas and Puranas, without exception, believed in the power of magic. The Christian Church always condemned magic, but Indian Christians always believed in it because of their Hindu tradition.: So Church excommunicated sorcerers as men who were really in communication with the devil. Thus futher communion with pagan religion of idol worship was prevented.
The first priest was the first rogue who met the first fool. That was one of your many fathers.
Holy Vedas: 4 book sent down from heaven, from time immemmorium… these Scriptures contain all that a HIndu should know and believe, provided he adds to it a million or so commentaries called Sruthis. This provided extra money for Brahmins who were not good for anything except sit and write on blogs.
Naraka: A cooking stove which heats the sacerdotal sauce-pan here below. It was founded on behalf of our Brahmins, who raped millions of Dalit women but will not let these Dalits come near them in day light. They are usually punished for stealing from hard working people as well.
Rama: A king who lived in Iran who was made into a God by Brahmins (the Iranian sun and fire worshipping people – Suryavamsha) at the time of Hindu golden era starting in BC 200. AS per the original epic he was a popular king who would even try to kill his wife (by putting her in the fire) for the sake of hanging on to the throne. Even now in India, politicians follow his path. First they say they don’t want anything. Once they get the taste of pwer, they will throw their mothers under the bus to cling on to power.
Inspiration: A peculiar effect of divine flatulence emitted by the yogis and Brahmins after they eat a whole lot of Dhal.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
wonderful words of widom from Ben Franklin. Atleast he agrees that he did not study it in detail. He was a free mason.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I see it now. The game plan. The RSS group definitely know about their Nazi origin and philosophy. They think a good offense is the best diffense. So they have started calling all their enemies Nazis- Chritians Nazis, Islam Fascits, now media nazis. Who are you trying to deceive?
February 12th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Are all here free masons?
http://www.burningcross.net/crusades/famous-quotes-christianity.html
Read and Educate yourself. Don’t drown yourself in dogma!
February 14th, 2009 at 4:27 am
@simon
“PS: All your queries will be responded during end of this day..”
When will it come? Possibly after doomsday i guess….
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:06 am
I red about the a blog and the meanest response of making that blogger
apologise by NDTV Butrkha dutt. No one should stoop to this level when
dealig with freedom of expression. Dont you people in TV Channels talk
about anu one anything so drogaratory way and get away. Do you think
as journalists you have any consitutional rights. Not at all. It is that
no one in the public took such matters seriously and took legal action
on your comments made almost every programme about others and even
twisting the comments of people to give a untrue meaning. So far people
have not united to form a Organisation to demand serious checks and
balances, control over what media do on their platforms and bring about
judgements again them for their mistakes and cirimes on the chanels.
They can very well form an orgaisation and request voluntary boycott of
such bias erring channels on any mtters including polarisation of communities
for self gains. There are many more effective methods to contemplate
and implement. Legal actions are not limited to one party. However,
this is a nation and a people who alwys prefer to know actual real news
wherever it happen without a biased presentation. Media can blame police,
politicians they dont like, organisations, officials, rarely but even judiciary
and if someone during a channel discussion tell on face to the media
person that in a particular news it was the channels that unnecessarily
blow out of proportion, you must see the face and the way that channel person
behve. Tey in such occasions become so combative and oppose the accusor
as if they are above every one in this country and whatever they tell is the
rule of law. How mean and smll they become with such mind set they dont
realise. They do not still realise that no citizen consider them ain a high
moral ground, or as decent as the profession calls for, because of their
professional behavier they have adopted for all these years siding with one
party or one section suppressisng the real news and highligting the lies.
This is most unfortunate for a country like ours. It is hight time that media
people understand that they are actually common citizens but they have a
noble profession to assist and help the public with unbiased news and if they
do the pu lic will even respect them. We had many respectable unbiased
journalist. Even now we do have, but very rarely.
My pray to this nble professional community is siding with one party or other
when your special responsible profession is for impartial reporting is not
only unethical but a sin and crime. And people or sections of societies and
countries suffer for long but never go through that suffering with helplessness
but with a vengence and determination that one day they will force the
system to book such culprits and clean the system by whoever is in power
that time whenever and how ever late that moment arrives. It is better to
change, and earn the respect. Whoever we are, we should raise our hed
and live. Anything we get out of turn is not decent and morally important.
JOURNALISM IS A RESPECTABLE PROFESSION, BUT ONLY WHEN IT IS PURE.
AND WE DEMAND PURE IMPARTIAL JOURNALISM.
JAI HIND
venu
April 25th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Kick teh barkha BITCHCCCCCCCC
July 31st, 2009 at 2:49 am
Amy,
So, you believe whatever Hitler says? Then his manipulative propaganda is still working.
Hitler was not a Christian; evidence of this is found here:
http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/04/from-zeitgeist-to-poltergeist-part-3-of.html
http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/05/from-zeitgeist-to-poltergeist-part-13.html
Also, evilbible.com is dead.
Large portions of evilbible.com have been considered, dissected and declared fallacious on very many levels.
Two examples of this fact are as follows:
Whilst besmirching the Bible for allegedly commanding rape evilbible.com, for some odd reason, neglects to mention the most relevant biblical text related to the biblical view of and law about rape. Why this omission? Who knows, but it would certainly have gotten in the way of a good session of emotive expression of prejudice—it would have discredited evilbible.com to reference this most important text. Indeed, those annoying little facts have an annoying way of getting in the way of good fallacious assertions.
Whilst besmirching the Bible for allegedly commanding human sacrifice evilbible.com, for some odd reason, neglects to mention that the Bible does not command but condemns human sacrifice. Evilbible.com, for some odd reason, neglects to mention that when the Bible reports that human sacrifices did take place they were carried out by Gentile Pagans who were not worshiping the God of the Bible but various false gods. When “Jews” were performing human sacrifices it was only when they turned away from the God of the Bible and joined Gentile Pagans in worshiping various false gods. Yet, in typical militant activist atheist fashion, evilbible.com does not condemn Gentile Pagans but only condemns the Jews.
Some of the resources provided in the original post are as follows:
http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/07/evilbiblecom-is-dead.html
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December 22nd, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Amy, The evilbible.com page has been considered, dissected and found fallacious. The parsed essay found at the URL below even provides further context from Mein Kampf to demonstrate that evilbible.com simply does not consider Hitler’s intentions: http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/10/adolf-hitler-was-christian-was-adolf.html