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Hindus beware: Taqiyya is Islamic licence to lie

June 22nd, 2009 | 62 Comments | Posted in Hindutva, Internationalism, Islam, Media

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When the media, especially the Islamic apologists, say that Islam is a religion of peace and brotherhood, the first thing that crosses my mind is Taqiyya. Ahem, err… what’s this taqiyya.  In short, it is the Islamic licence to lie.

A specific justification for taqiyya by the Shi’as is the instance when ‘Ammar ibn al-Yasir (one of the companions loyal to ‘Ali and considered to be one of the first Shi’a) was detained and tortured by infidels (pagan/Hindus). He renounced his faith in order to escape and immediately went to Muhammad and repented. ‘Umar suggested that he be put to death for apostasy, however, Muhammad said that it was better for him to renounce his faith with his lips (while still believing in his heart) than to be burned to death by the infidels.

However, Taqia has several dimensions today.  Muslims in US started drinking liquor to infiltrate the US armed forces.  Their contention was that their alcoholism was their proof of renouncing Islam.  However, once inside, they started their fidayeen operation resulting in the infamous 9/11.

Taqia is also used in hoodwinking Hindu girls into conversion.  For instance, these jehadis/fidayeens even eat pork and say that they are only Muslims by birth.  They also drink alcohol to fool these modern naive Hindu girls into believing that their boyfriends are atheists.  However, once these girls fall into the taqiya jehadi trap, they start showing their true colours.

Taqia is also used to fool the naive media and other religionists.  They say that Islam believes in co-existence.  For this, they quote an ayath from the Koran which means: `To me, my religion.  To you, yours’.

What they do not say is that these ayat was used by Mohammed to fool the pagans of Medina who had the upper hand..  Remember, the so-called Prophet Mohammed was driven out of Medina.  His life was saved because he resorted to Taqiya.  However, Mohammed regrouped and butchered the pagans of Medina.

Taqia is very dangerous.  Never believe the white lies of Muslims.  It is nothing but Taqia.  Islam is a medieval religion whose commands are obvious: Allah is the only God. Mohammed is the final prophet.  Those who believe this are Mommins.  Those who disbelieve are Kafirs.  Kafirs should be killed or converted.  If you can’t do both, trouble them to the max.

So there you are, Islam is a religion of rape and violence.  To say to the contrary is nothing but taqiya.  Don’t be fooled.  If you are fooled, you will be like the pagans of Medina.  You will be history.

Make Islam history.  Relegate it to the textbooks.  That is the strong message to Hindu society.  And if you won’t, Hinduism will be extinct and we will all have Koran and Hadits as textbooks.  Don’t let that happen.

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    sabhyata Says:

    Muslims lie all the time. According to their narrative they are always victims and never aggressors! Many if not most support jihadis too. See this quote from a Koenraad Elst article:

    “According to Che Guevara, a guerrilla fighter moves among the masses like a fish in the water, and this description fits the understanding between the Muslim masses and the militants during the expulsion of the Hindus from the Kashmir Valley in 1989-90.”

    Islam is not a religion, it is a revolutionary political ideology. The religion part is only a cloak. Hence taqqiya (propagandizing) is just another element of it. 
    The Quran is full of injunctions to hate and kill the enemy (infidels), murder traitors (apostates), and spread the ideology by proselytisation and demographic expansion (multiple wives). It uses brainwashing, intimidation, propaganda and political unity to control the community and a sense of grievance to motivate it. They tend to see themselves as oppressed people pursuing justice much like Communists.

    None of these things have anything to do with meditating on God. They are only found in political ideologies like Communism and Fascism. The only purpose of Islam is putting political power in the hands of the Arabs. It is their imperialism.

    Islam will destroy Hindu civilisation because Hindus are extremely naive and have no unity. They also seem to have internalised negative stereotyping of their religion while Muslims are arrogant and unapologetic. They are not raised to think strategically like Muslims.

    Hindus have tolerated Islam despite it being a creed which has specific hatred for idol worshippers, despite historical invasions, imperial occupation, atrocities, allowed creation of Pakistan and still they want Kashmir. 
    Compare with the Middle East. What inroads has dharmic religion made there? Zero.

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    CC Says:

    Mr. Deepak Kamath, please don’t be offended, but isn’t it dangerous to display that cartoon on your website? Freedom of speech is all fine, but we don’t need go looking for trouble just to prove bravery. Who knows which sleeper cell might awake or which “pious” and peace-loving muslim might take it upon himself to follow the will of Allah.

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    Deepak Kamat Says:

    @ CC,

    You are right. But I believein destiny. Nobody can kill u before your time.

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    Khursheed Says:

    Chaddiwalas’ way of telling lie.
    In Mahabharath the Kuru commander Drona was killing thousands of Pandava warriors. Krishna hatched a plan to tell Drona that his son Ashwathama had died, so that the invincible and destructive Kuru commander would give up his arms and thus could be killed.
    The plan was set in motion when Bhima killed an elephant named Ashwathama, and loudly proclaimed that Ashwathama was dead. Drona, knowing that only Yudhisthira, with his firm adherence to the truth, could tell him for sure if his son had died, approached Yudhisthira for confirmation. Yudhisthira told him: “Ashwathama has died”. Yudhisthira, who could not make himself tell a lie, despite the fact that if Drona continued to fight, the Pandavas and the cause of Dharma itself would have been lost, then added: “Praha kunjara ha”, which means he is not sure whether elephant or man had died.
    Krishna, knowing that Yudhisthira would be unable to lie, had all the warriors beat war-drums and cymbals to make as much noise as possible at the critical moment. The words “Praha kunjara ha” were lost in the tumult and the ruse worked. Drona was disheartened, and laid down his weapons. He was then killed by Dhristadyumna.

    These Chaddiwalas are now following the Krishna. They pretended to be the admirer of Gandhi but they abuse the Gandhi in their Shakhas. British created them during freedom movement to divide the Indian public. They did their duty as a british informer. Even now they admire the british rule in India in their Shakhas but they can not declare it openly. They are the most cunning persons India. They are the great danger for India.

    He is saying that Islam will destroy Hindu civilisation because Hindus are extremely naive and have no unity.  They are not raised to think strategically like Muslims. Though a open minded hindu can understand that muslims ruled over India for thousand years but they can not destroy the Hindu civilisation. Hindu civilisation are same as it was before thousand years. If muslims rulers want they could kill all Hindus. who could save them? There were no UN, USA, no media no internet. There were no unity in hindu community. HIndus are more united now. These Chaddiwalas only want  to rule Hindustan by hook or by crook.

    I appeal to my Hindu brothers not to pay attention this foreign agent Deepak Kamat. They are doing the same thing as their forefathers have done.

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    Religion of Peace Says:

    < If muslims rulers want they could kill all Hindus. >

    They tried. Remember Rani Jhansi, Prthviraj Chauhan, Hakka/Bukka, Krishnadevaraya, Shivaj!
    Where did you learn Drona’s story? In madrasa?  Then you missed the head and tail of it. Drona gave that leverage to be deceived as long as dharma wins. The point is: Dharma should win, no matter what. It’s not like irrational jehad crap. Between Krishna & Gandhi, it’s better we choose Krishna. We know what happened after following Gandhi right?  Muslims got seperate Pakiland. That also they screwed it up. The remaining muslims who chose to live in India are turning against Hindus. You tell me where are muslims like you headed? Today an Islamist has absolutely ZERO credibilty.

    Thanks, your reply was a good al-taquiyah example!

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    sabhyata Says:

    Khursheed
    Muslim invaders were smaller in number than the natives. Though they could defeat armies, forcibly converting everyone would be much harder, though they still managed to convert huge numbers.
    Hindus also resisted. Two of the three great empires of medieval India were Hindu (Vijayanagar and Maratha). The latter reconquered most of India by 1760. The Sikhs also had to resort to military action to repel Mughals because they were demanding mass conversion to Islam. 

    Even Sufis have a history of forcibly converting and killing people, but Muslims always deny and whitewash the conversion issue totally even though it is one of their ideological obligations. They literally pretend that no one was ever forced to convert. That is taqiyya of monumental proportions.
    Your urban legend about Hindu nationalists siding with colonialists is also nonsense. If it were the case then why were they were all jailed long-term, killed and disappeared? It was Hindu liberals and Muslims who did that, the former because they are clueless and the latter because they can only think in terms of playing one infidel off the other to advance the Islamic cause.

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    Om Taquiya « Anna Lyttiger Says:

    [...] det de indiske sikh’er og hinduer. Her et hinduistisk synspunkt på begrebet taquiya – Fra Great Hindu: When the media, especially the Islamic apologists, say that Islam is a religion of peace and [...]

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    Anna Lyttiger Says:

    I linked to your article from my blog. Keep up the good work, and greetings from a freedom-loving dane!

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    Deepak Kamat Says:

    @ Anna,

    Thank you, keep up the pace.

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    sapr333 Says:

    Long live hindus
    Long live hindustan.
    Sanatanadharma rules this world
     
    from a Tamilbrahmin

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    Md.Tanweer Islam Khan Says:

    A new way to create discrimination among Indians!

    Keep it up coz as long as I show all this to my hindu friends then they will understand that Evil-Extremeism is not only in Islam but also in hinduism.

    Lord is one and neither Islam nor Sanatan dharma is fake!

    I don’t think you totally follow the Sanatan dharma perfectly as I thaught something different from my Brahmin teacher. Sanatan dharma is called the mother religion that is the oldest religion and formed today’s Islam!
    _

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    Deepak Kamat Says:

    @ Mohammed Tanweer Islam Khan (If you are for real),

    Remember, what I speak are undisputable facts.  It is quoted from Koran and Hadiths.  If you reject those extremist lines, it is good for you.
    WE Hnidus have rejected exrremist lines in Manu Smrithies.  WHy don’tyou do the same in Koran and Hadiths.?

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    Indian_Friend Says:

    Deepak Kamat

    sir if u have rejected extreamist lines in Manu smirti its  because you believe it is not the word of God  whereas Quran is the  final revealation   &  is from God , just like Torah , bible  are from god. So there can not be any of  question of rejecting any part of it

    LOL

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    Vivek Says:

    When I first heard of Islam, I wanted to learn more. When I learned a little, I was eager to know more. Then I had the chance to study at a Muslim management college. I read the Qur’an. And that brought a great chage in me. I was cured of my desire to become a Muslim.

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    brainwave Says:

    Great stuff! I’m wondering if you know of any meditation forums at all? Thanks :)

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    IslamicRevival Says:

    May I explain, Reading the Qur’an literally doesn’t bring about the correct understanding of Islam. The qur’an was pieces of advice given to Muhammad from god. Not always general rules that should be applied all the time. Please visit explainislam.webs.com to see the real islam.

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    brain wave Says:

    Nice post! Just one question, is this releated to biofeedback?

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    proudindian Says:

    It was marathas and rajputs who gave reply in the same token.Muslim did not know about Hinduim the great religion of all times.Hindus are not kafirs.They knew existence of God much before Muhammad.It is ignorence of muslims and its propagators as their relito fool gion developed in the other part of world totally ignorant of India.We should not allow outry r sisters and daughters to mix with Muslim boys as they try to fool them.Daughters and sons of India rise and resist with equal force the evil designs of Muslims.

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    IslamicRevival Says:

    Muhammad buchered the inhabitants of Makkah when he liberated it? Show proof please. It is known that muhammad left the pagans alone and didn’t harm them. This site is making people (especially hindus) Islamophobic. Most of the main articles on this site are Anti-Islamic.

    DO YOU REMEMBER THE GUJARAT MASSACARE? Many muslims were killed by hindus and you say Islam is a religion of rape and violence. DO YOU REMEMBER GAHNDI? The man who, in large part, liberated India from the Briish. He was killed by a Hindu Terrorist because he was friendly with muslims and joined the Khilafat party that worked to revive the true Islamic State. REMEMBER JALALUDIN MUHAMMAD AKBAR? The Muslim mughal ruler who married a hindu princess and made peace with hindus? HAVE YOU HEARD OF SARAJEVO? The city where, under Ottoman rule, they lived together side-by-side for hundreds of years? The same was with EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM CITY under the rule of an Islamic Caliphate (not every muslim city e.g. like today’s saudi arabia)
    This site is stirring up anti-Islamic feeling. And I am not lying here. I have Hindu, Christian and even Atheist friends and I dont kill them. People who say it is obligatory to kill the Kuffar (people who know what the true islam is and reject it) have been Misgided.

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    janee Says:

    Forced conversion is rife in Islam. Example is a relatives daughter 20 yrs old,brainwashed and blackmailed. She was forced to go to Pakistan and marry this guy. Luckily she managed to escape from there with a lot of difficulty, after  couple of years. Others were not so lucky and are stuck there and cannot return!!!!!.
    On returning to homeland, her parents were devasted to see how she had been mentally tortured by her ex inlws family and husband. She was forced everyday to read the religious scriptures .She had to receive psychiatric treatment for two years to get her back to normality.
    Be careful!!!! If there is god who wanted one religion for all then being all powerful and merciful, he could do it. In addition, being merciful he would not need people to cause violence in the name of religion.

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    Deepak Kamat Says:

    @ Islamic Revival,

    For proof of Islamic rape and violence, read the Koran and Hadiths.

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    saleem Says:

    @IslamicRevival :

    go & read quaran! in primary section of quaran itself is available! in every page of quaran, there is a hatred message towards non-believer and message to convert or kill them by way of jehad!

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    Deepak Vondu Says:

    @saleem
    @deepak

    R u deaf or dump? or both?
    Before spreading blasphemy plz look in your own scriptures written by the Sexy Naked Shadus!
    Look in Mahabharata, you’ll find nothing except rape, bustered
    Really u r the true follwers of these scriptures!!!

    @janee
    you r giving a example! there r a huge amount of examples we also have for u. u may hate pakistanis but that not means you will also hate Muslims. plz ask yourself r u right to blame a hole community for some people!

    @muslims
    If u really think that Islam is not a humaliating religion, try to follow it perfectly! look even in your areas you’ll find some bloody fuckers practising salats!
    And your so called mullahs r really a shit monkeys!

    Its shocking but true that I find many of ur muslim guys preaching anti-islamic acts that could make any non-muslims feel bad for ur Islam!

    I love this site to find you all donkeys shouting for nothing!:-p
    Keep it up..Lol……..

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    Momaboy Says:

    shut up islam isnt like that!

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    drowfreak Says:

    idiots ilsam is not like that, ya there are tearist or w/e im no that good of a speller, lol, but ya u ppol can go 2 hell >:((

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    drowfreak Says:

    not only that, bush is probably worst than terrist

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    Sandeep Says:

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    Love Jihad should be called “Taqiyya by love”. This phenomenon is in sync with the concept of Taqiyya (deception in order to spread Islam).

    Love Jihad as we know, is an organized way of executing a plan through the student’s wing called NDF to con Hindu and Christian girls with the malicious intends to convert and more over to use them as breeding cows. The Hindu and Christian organization taking up the issues are receiving treating calls from Saudi Arabia that in itself is very interesting to note. Conning Love with an intend to covert is Criminal.

    The Centre says there is no Love Jihad. Jokes apart, I would like to bring to your notice that the Kerala HC says there is. It does reflect Centre’s consistent policy of appeasement.

    There is something called learning form History. Defending against a discreet nefarious movement cannot be termed as malicious unless, the Hindu and Christian organization’s who has taken up this issue themselves have a nefarious design.


    From now on, we should pity guys and girls from different religious falling genuinely in love. But we cannot be oblivious to facts. Islam in real sense as followed by Rumi is fine but under radicals it increasingly becomes perverted.

    It is a notion that the girls and boys are matured. There are many who are not matured enough and susceptible to conning. Every day, in India much matured age old people who have seen this world in its true colour still succumb to financial conning, so leave it there.
    Love and Maturity many of the times do not mix and match. To understand that you need to Love at least once in life time.

    There is no doubt about the decision making power of any Mature Indian women. But again, I repeat the old phrase “Love is blind” decisions taken being in Love can go horribly wrong when, your partner you trust most is the one who has the despicable intend.
    And when this entire phenomenon is organized, it becomes infidelity of inconceivable enormity.
     
    People oblivious to facts are just a bane to society.

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    Anglo_Indian Says:

    Kill all Muslims.  They are all devil worshippers.  Nuke Pakistan.  Kill them in their mosques, kill them in their schools (madrassas), kill them on the street.  Shove every last one of them into the Indian Ocean and let the sharks have a good feast.

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    Nadeer Says:

    I am a muslim, and I should say Islam is a religion of peace only for Muslims. For idolators, as the Qur’an says , “Terrific is what you preach to the idolators (43:12) ” .
    Islam doesn’t allow forced conversion, because in that case there will not be anyone to go to hell. “There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clear from the wrong way (2:256).”  Muslims are supposed to worship one God, without ascribing partners to Him . Idolatry is the first and foremost of major sins (which include adultery , usury, turning back while fighting, stealing orphans’ money etc).
    Islam is political in that it wants to rule the whole world, people of other religions should either convert to submission to God, or agree to live under Islamic rule as ‘Dhimmis’ agreeing to pay Jizya, a tax imposed on non-muslims subjects of an Islamic country.
    “9:29 Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. ”
    It is clear that there is no compulsion to convert in this verse. That’s why muslim invaders to India stopped killing when people agreed to pay jizya under their rule .This explains why most people remained Hindus and didn’t convert to Islam.

    The punishment of rape in Islam is stoning to death(for married) or 100 lashes (for unmarried) .Refer to 24:1 in Qur’an .

    Muslims do not target women or muslims in war, since this was proscribed by the prophet. All Muslims, including the likes of Usama Bin laden are agreed on this.

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    Deepak Kamat Says:

    @ Nadeer,
    You say Idolatory is the first and foremost sin (greater than rape and idolatory should be punished with death) From that it is very clear that Islam is barbaric and undemocratic.  is it not?

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    Rai Says:

    I accept that all Muslims are nt terrorist bt i have a confusion ….. let me know why the hell every terrorist is a MUSLIM???

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    Uppendra shetty Says:

    @   Rai Says: I accept that all Muslims are nt terrorist bt i have a confusion ….. let me know why the hell every terrorist is a MUSLIM???

    Pragya Thakur, pandey, Purohit and all the other heroes of malegaon, goa and samjauta blasts were muslims too according to you, joker…! Get treated for mental decay..then you can say who are real terrorists..Advani, Vajapayee, Umabharathi <modi, Togadia, ..are indian terrorists who escape punishment because they are backed by majority hindus.

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    Deepak Kamat Says:

    ^^^^

    The cases against Pragya Thakur, Pandey, Purohit have not yet been proved by  the Court of law.  It is only an accusation.  The cases against them were foisted by the communal UPA.  

    The cases against Islamic terrorists have been proved worldwide.

    Islamic terrorism is a reality.

    Hindu terrorism is a myth.

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    rai Says:

    @Uppendra shetty

    Uppendra…..Are u indian by any means?? pragya was narco tested twice and there was no evidence…modi what did he do…muslim’s burnt the whole train all of  them died for no fault and in retaliation if hindus did anything it was heinous?? they keep killing here n there and expect ki “UNKI AARTI UTARI JAYE”  ur just another stupid indian and u r not a hindu u must be a muslim posting with a hindu name…go n get ur brain washed in some madarssa and do some blast u all are taught to do this…good gng go ahead!!

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    Arindam Says:

    <strong>@Rai</strong>

    u r among those who just think demselves as ri8! u r commenting out of infos! i think u got da wrong definition of terrorist! why not look it up again? I’m not telling u r totally wrong but
    it seems to me u haven’t gone thru da histories of terrorism nd muslim terrorist grups either!

    Human beings r da incarnation of both good & evil. Neither Muslims nor Hindus r different 4m dat.

    u think all hindus r ok but all muslims r bad! look at da comments nd c how sum fellows r preaching 2wards muslims!

    u don’t hav ne idea what u r talking coz u r talking out of anger! i can feel the immense rage widin u for the muslims but believe me, i spent a lot of time wid muslims &  didn’t find such hatred. dey r usual ppl living their lives!

    their holy book was derived 4m ours & i’m sure u won’t find ne badly things! u need comparative studies vich may help u.

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    Rai Says:

    I am having the correct definition,  its just that ur perception is different for my words…i am talking about terrorist nt muslim’s … u can see every country in the world is suffering with terrorism bt what can we do if every terrorist is a muslim. can u say why? i am nt supporting hindus either sayin that all of them are good…bt still wen every terrorist is a muslim we cant blame hindus…i have muslim freinds too…bt what i say is ONLY 1% of them are only good. for example u see a cricket match b/w india & pakistan and 99% of them will be supporting pakistan while stayin in india ( “where does there patriotism go”  do u have any answer for this….no b’coz in there  hearts they are still pakis’ )…i have seen this scenario that’s the reason i m saying. u cant deny this.

    and u say i shud read their holy book …why is it written that every non muslim is a “KAFIR
    but do u see any kind of hatred scripts like this in our or any other holy book.

    one more question its said that if anyone does a rape he should be stoned to death , so according to thier theory what punishment do they give to  OSAMA,  bloddy KASAB ,hafiz muhammed sayyed and many more terrorist outfits …..bt u also know the scenario they are treated as heroes.

    so its not me who needs help …its them who are brain washed and do all such acts so rather they need to read their holy book ( only if these things are nt mentioned in their holy book )  bt what can u do …..  when their maulvis teach them all these things…from childhood they are taught to hate KAFIR . and mind it their maulvis would be knowing more of this what u n me can read and learn from their holy book.

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    rai Says:

    i find most of the Muslims when you interact they are not flexible. i mean every religion has certain good things & certain bad things and being a human being we should adopt good things from other religion n always leave the bad things.thats what muslims should instrospect and get it chnged according to the time.

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    khan Says:

    @rai

    I want to ask you one question. how many muslims do you know???
    when u say 99% muslims are pakis, you hurt 99% muslims who support India. are you an idiot? how can you say such lies!
    you think all terrorists are muslims! you are absolutely wrong! no! i’m not telling they don’t follows Islam. of course they are muslims. even most interesting thing is that the allegation of al-qaeda behind 9/11 is still not proved yet!!!(GOOGLE IT) and now so many theories are raised (i.e. jews conspiracy) regarding 9/11(WIKI IT)
    you said, there are no “hatred” in your holy book or other either! lol..
    the author himself told “WE Hnidus have rejected exrremist lines in Manu Smrithies”
    lol.. very interesting! you manipulate your scriptures as per your need! thats why Mahabharata & Ramayana only teaches rape!, war! hatred! etc…
    (are these hurting you? same we feel when you lie)

    i know you idol worshiper(though your Vedas teaches different) never accept goods.

    muslims are oppressed and forced to join terrorists groups! thats the truth! for instance the LTTE! they are all hindus also! everywhere muslims are tortured, raped & killed. How many terrorist grups you knew in iraq before war? can’t u see how muslims r killed each nd everyday in palestine?
    if i accept that muslims burnt the whole train, then as a hindu how you feel? thats what we feel when we see the bloody US and its allies doing towards muslims. aren’t they terrorist? america, a war hero! now pointing who are terrorist and you are following it! lol…
    Azan is now banned in France! Minaret banned in Switzerland, Mosque were destroyed in Russia, Palestine was divided into pieces, thousands of Youths were killed in Bosnia & Kosovo, Hijab banned in France!!!Even this France first spoke out when AK party made scarf a mandatory in Turkey. French president told its undemocratic! now its disallows scarfs for muslim womens. Ain’t it undemocratic for muslims? Its usual muslims will protest against it and will be called terrorist!
    yes I love to terrorize them who terrorize muslims…

  40. 40
    Deepak Kamat Says:

    @ Khan,

    LTTE CHief Prabhakar was a Christian and the movement was kept alive by Norway catholic funds.  Mahabharata does not tell to convert or kill.  Koran does.
  41. 41
    rai Says:

    @khan
    You are asking abt knowing…huh i m staying with one  , n do u support india…it doesnt seem to me by your words…that shows how idiotic ur and this shows your mentality and you  only have  given most of the answers to my questions…and LIES huh! these are contents of your blood
    i am nt askin u whether to read mahabharat n ramayan..and dont speak about vedas ..this shows how frustrated and creep you are .have u ever even touched them, n why wud you touch.. you are not allowed to even touch any other holy book…so dont give your stupid idiotic views…you go and ask any hindu who has read ramayan n mahabharat as where do u see rape…and war happeneed b’coz of women’s pride her honour…do u respect women???   see how you treat them…like a birth machine, you dont let them live their life keep them in burqa? can i know why…probably coz u don trust them….show some humanity first then tell the world about your atrocities if any…… n first see yourself all that you show is KILLING, BLOOD, TERROR…these are part n parcel of your daily life…everywhere you people are targeted b’coz of your actions, why doesnt fingers point to any other community,..for LTTE you already got the answer from author
    “Its usual muslims will protest against it and will be called terrorist!
    yes I love to terrorize them who terrorize muslims…”
    and finally this shows what you think and your state of mind and kind of hatred that has been filled inside you …if this is the case we are being terrorized and if we start terrorizing the same way u think, think what the hell will u have to see….bt we dont think like you…so grow up a BIT

  42. 42
    khan Says:

    Hmm… What can i expect from an arrogant Hindu except a bunch of blasphemies!
    omg! “birth machine” now you are speaking your mind. i think this is the main reason behind the
    growing hindu population in India!

    I don’t need to show you how i love my country. but its true you don’t love India! actually your perception of love is hating Pakistan!

    I know you’ll never ask me to read your so called holy books coz you know your false will exposed.
    Thats the difference!

    lol. you’ve proven yourself an idiot! congratulation! speaking out of knowledge!
    But thats not your fault! yes! what you can do! after all these are in your blood.

    don’t want to know why the adjectives fits you???

    you are telling reading other holy books are prohibited in Islam. ok. just give me the quotes
    of Quran where it says so! If you prove it, I’ll threw all the Qurans I have. but you can’t
    coz you never read it or touched it but though behaving like you know too much! and for me? I’ve pdf versions
    of Mahabharata and Ramayan and even the Gita from the american gita society!

    Mahabharata, Ramayan- you believe in these things? you believe in which written by men?
    hmm. trully you are a perfect monkey! now go join the banar sena! lol

    you hindus worship everything! i know why you ppl are so mad! you’ve a lot of pressure na? worshiping 33 cores god & godess! look at the trees from the window. this can be your god! or make your own god with mud and goddess for him. lol xD

    listen,
    You are staying with one? I’m spending 6 hours per day in school with 60 hindus.
    its ridiculous when hindus like you says ‘respecting women” & bla bla…
    you may expose your mothers, sisters & wives but sorry! we can’t! we have deep respect for women.

    and why you are pointing to muslims when you have lot of things to improve within your religion?
    better go and start finding! don’t waste your time!

  43. 43
    Deepak Kamat Says:

    @ Khan,

    What do you have to say about Prophet Mohammed fucking 9 year old Ayesha?

    Prophet Mohammed killing poetess?

  44. 44
    khan Says:

    You are an example of what i’ve just stated! you are showing the colors of your blood. you found something but without having any knowledge posted it! please, come out from your blasphemies. why not literate Hindus or do some resourceful for them?

  45. 45
    khan Says:

    @Deepak Kamat

    You are an example of what i’ve just stated! you are showing the colors of your blood. you found something but without having any knowledge posted it! please, come out from your blasphemies. why not literate Hindus or do some resourceful for them?

  46. 46
    rai Says:

    @khan
    he he…starting with let me tell u why i took the word birth m/c…its b’coz u dont let them do anything…u restrict them  for everything but everything you do is free…n stupid, idiot jerk  india is a democratic  country with hindus in majority… so have some sense( oh this is not your part…you are a senseless stupid guy who has aready been brain washed ) ..
    Here is the knowledge n proof u want…..this is about the Girl child whome your prophet married..

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
    Narrated ‘Aisha:
    that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’

    These are the list of your prophets wife’s (known)

    Name of Bride Bride’s age at marriage Comments
    Khadija bint khawilad 40 Twice widowed before
    Sauda Bint Zama 50 Widow
    Aisha bint Abu Bakr 6 Started living with the prophet at the age of 9.
    Hafsa Bint Umar bin Khattab 22 Widow
    Zainab bint Khuzaima 30 ?
    Umm-I-Salma bint Abu Umayia26 Widow
    Zainab Bint Jahash 38 Widow
    Juwaeria Bint Harith 20 Widow
    Umm-I-Habiba bint Abu Sufyan36 Widow
    Marya Qibtiya bint Shamun 17 Virgin, Egyptian
    Safia bint Hayi bin Akhtab 17 Widow
    Raihana bint umru bin hanafa ? ?
    Maimuna bint harith 36 widow
    can u say why the hell he married a 40 yr old lady + a twice widow …Why did he need this at the age of 25…now how about your blood u keep saying about blood…bloddy hell see where from your blood comes…This is how you show respect to women

    its not only me who is pointing its the whole world…now say u r right and whole world is wrong….u say u r being tortured everywhere , see within urself n give a genuine reason why only u???

  47. 47
    khan Says:

    @rai

    yes hindus are majority and don’t need to say why! you were brain washed by this freedom

    frist, read below

    http://www.guidedones.com/metapage/frq/Aisha.htm

    “But do you mean to tell me that the man who in the full flush of youthful vigour, a young man of four and twenty (24), married a woman much his senior, and remained faithful to her for six and twenty years (26), at fifty years of age when the passions are dying married for lust and sexual passion? Not thus are men’s lives to be judged. And you look at the women whom he married, you will find that by every one of them an alliance was made for his people, or something was gained for his followers, or the woman was in sore need of protection.”

    -Dr Annie Besant (Dr Annie Besant in ‘The Life and Teachings of Mohammad,’ Madras, 1932)

  48. 48
    khan Says:

    now, read below:

    http://www.islamcan.com/common-questions-about-islam/why-did-the-prophet-muhammad-marry-many-wives.shtml

    The reasons for the marriages will become clear once we survey the historical circumstances. When Muhammad was twenty-five years old he married for the first time. His wife, Khadijah, was fifteen years older than him. She remained the only wife of the prophet for the next twenty-five years, until she died (may Allah be pleased with her). Only after her death did the prophet marry other women. Now, it is obvious that if the prophet was after physical pleasure he did not have to wait until he was more than fifty years old to start marrying more wives. He lived in a society in which it was quite acceptable to have many wives. But the prophet remained devoted to his only wife for twenty-five years. When she died she was sixty-five years old.

    His later marriages were for various reasons. Some marriages were with the view to help the women whose husbands had been killed while they were defending their faith. Others were with a view to cement relationships with devoted followers like Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him. Yet others were to build bridges with various tribes who were otherwise at war with the Muslims. When the prophet became their relative through marriage, their hostilities calmed down, and much bloodshed was averted.

    Recent non-Muslim writers who had the opportunity to study the life of the prophet first-hand reached a similar conclusion about his plural marriages. John L. Esposito, Professor of Religion and Director of the Center for International Studies at the College of the Holy Cross, says that most of these marriages had “political and social motives” (Islam: The Straight Path, Oxford University Press, 1988, p. 19). This he explained as follows:
    As was customary for Arab chiefs, many were political marriages to cement alliances. Others were marriages to the widows of his companions who had fallen in combat and were in need of protection (John L. Esposito, Islam: The Straight Path, pp.19-20).

    Esposito reminds us of the following historical fact:
    Though less common, polygyny was also permitted in biblical and even in post-biblical Judaism. From Abraham, David, and Solomon down to the reformation period, polygyny was practiced (p.19).

    Another non-Muslim Caesar F. Farah writes as follows:
    In the prime of his youth and adult years Muhammad remained thoroughly devoted to Khadijah and would have none other for consort. This was an age that looked upon plural marriages with favor and in a society that in pre-biblical and post-biblical days considered polygamy an essential feature of social existence. David had six wives and numerous concubines (2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3) and Solomon was said to have had as many as 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:3). Solomon’s son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines (2 Chronicles 11:2 1). The New Testament contains no specific injunction against plural marriages. It was commonplace for the nobility among the Christians and Jews to contract plural marriages. Luther spoke of it with toleration (Caesar E. Farah, Islam: Beliefs and Observances, 4th edition, Barron’s, U.S. 1987, p. 69).
    Caesar Farah then concluded that Muhammad’s plural marriages were due “partly to political reasons and partly to his concern for the wives of his companions who had fallen in battle defending the nascent Islamic community” (p.69).

    When people hear that the prophet had many wives they conclude without much thought that the prophet was a sensuous man. However, a quick historical review of his marriages, proves otherwise. May Allah shower peace and blessings upon His noble messenger.

  49. 49
    rai Says:

    @ khan
    In india we are major…..bt still we treat everyone equal saying it a democratic country…….bt compared to the world we are the minority and you are everywhere and much more in number..so why nt we are tortured bt u r the one who is….leave this too…pakistan is full of muslim’s why the hell u terrorise people there also…they are your people bt still you are doing that….and you ppl wont have money to eat bt still surely have a gun with you..
    you have been sayin u r tortured b’coz u r muslim…pakistan is muslim country then why do u terrorise ppl there who is torturing you there…ppl are scared to there death even there…what  answer would u like to give for this??? here also i would be wrong …is it??
    You gave the details and say that prophet was helping…was it neccesary to marry a 6yr old baby girl to help…this is definition of protection?
    Read this…
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    Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is of course not true and here is the proof.
    Sahih Bukhari 7.18
    Narrated ‘Ursa:
    The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for ‘Aisha’s hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said “But I am your brother.” The Prophet said, “You are my brother in Allah’s religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry.”

    Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each other to be brothers. So according to their costoms Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Yet that did not stop him to ask her hand even when she was only six years old.
    But this moral relativist Prophet would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like.
    Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
    Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:
    It was said to the Prophet, “Won’t you marry the daughter of Hamza?” He said, “She is my foster niece (brother’s daughter). “

    In the following Hadith he confided to Ahesha that he had dreamed of her before soliciting her from her father.
    Sahih Bukhari 9.140
    Narrated ‘Aisha:
    Allah’s Apostle said to me, “You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, ‘Uncover (her),’ and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), ‘If this is from Allah, then it must happen.

    U say till 25 yrs he was loyal…before 25 yrs he dint think of helping  anyone…after she died then only he started helping  women. The reson is she was highly rich lady  and if he seperated he would lose every bit of that (wealth). and soon as she died he got everything,….and after this started his so called helping hand by marrying a 6yrs old girl child…WOW!! gr8 help
    Follow the same line of helping !!….and still we havent abused ur holy book and u have been doing that….this is the difference b/w Us n  “U”
    its a humble request dont instill this kind of helping nature within u…or may b u would have done it already!!!

  50. 50
    khan Says:

    How you can say these? Please, read how the Mohammad(swa) lived his life. read from any non-Muslim decent historian.
    If our prophet was such a person you thought, then how can thousands of people follow him?
    even Islam is the most rapidly increasing religion till today! 9/11 and such things decline the process but can’t stop it.
    Don’t you know after 9/11 out of curiosity, when Americans start reading Quran, about 34000
    converted to Islam within following three months. This was the highest conversion ever in America!

    All the quotes you given is a part of full story. Any one can do this from any book. If you want to know the truth then open Bukhari hadith and read from where you quoted. And I should tell you that Hadiths were written by several scholars. Muslims accept only those Hidths which are authenticated by Quran.

    We are tortured and you are not? why?
    Look at the Arab countries (UAE and the neighboring countries)or Iran. Do you find such tortures?
    There are not only religious reasons behind such fightings. You may aware of the world politics. See how the Latin American countries suffered. Don’t you know how US Pres. started Iraq war false blaming? Do you know Today’s Talibans were once the gr8 frend of America when the Soviet aggression going on? I know, you know why America started Iraq war. For oil. Even Australian minister reveled that last year! Do know the main person behind the Bill of Banning Minarets in Switzerland now recently converted to Islam and going to established the Biggest Mosque in Switzerland!

    Please tell me why Indian bros are being tortured in Australia? Are they muslims?

    Do you know what happened after Holocaust? Do you know the History of Palestine? Muslims are not tortured there for their religion. These all are political causes.

    Please, read yourself from the actual sources instead of such cut references. Its very easy to proof anything form any books when you just cut and paste!


    I can’t understand how you ask me for Prophet’s(swa) marriage! And you told me this are in my blood!
    Krishna had 16108 wives. Now, according to you, realize what blood is flowing through you.
    you should think at least for once before asking me about Prophet’s(swa) marriage when you knew Krishna had not 4 or 24 or 240 or even 2400! He had 16180 wives!

    It means approx. 951 times of our prophet! Now, think about the blood!!!

    Now answer me:

    why Ramayan teaches bestiality?

    please tell me did Dhratrashtra used Viagra for fathering 100 from your “birth machine”?

    why Mahabharata inspires rivalry, wars, rape , killing etc?

    I know you’ll never try to understand this or read our books or similarities between your and our religion. I know my words will raise anger within you.And You can hardly control your inherent vices.

    And discussing such things are meaningless! These will neither benefit you nor me rather cause more hatred. I’m leaving this site as I know I’m just wasting my time here.And I can give this time to my Comperative studies.

    But I wish God shows us both the right way.
    but one thing I want to request you that don’t judge Islam by people who got an Muslim name! And never trust most of the maulvis of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Better read our holy books if you really want to proof ourselves wrong…

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