Srinivasa, Venkatramana, Govinda: Crypto-Christian Andhra CM YSR dead-Good riddance
Frankly, I am feeling Lord Venkataramana’s grace for the first time. I was really glad that destiny took away the Super Egoist, Crypto-Christian Andhra Chief Minister Y S Rajashekar Reddy from our midst.
Remember, this was the same person who tried to take over the world’s richest Hindu Temple — backed no doubt by the Christian evangelists who are in full control of the fascist Indian media. The S in YSR stands for Samuel. He was one of Sonia’s henchmen in the evangelisation game.
He tried to spoil the sanctity of Tirupati Balaji Temple by getting the prasadams done at Christian behest. He tried to take over the sacred seven hills belonging to Saptagirivasa Venkataramana.
I am sure that the Gods were angry and dealt a blow to the evangelical dreams. Mother Earth is better off without crypto-Christian Hindu baiters like YSR. May His Soul rest in pieces. Let this also serve as a warning to all the pseudosecularists, evangelists and Mullahs who dare to insult Hindu Gods. Let this also serve as a warning to that Italian bitch.
Finally, three Cheers to Lord Venkatramana.
Srinivasa, Venkatramana, Govinda
Govindan Govinda…. Govinda.
-----Email: greathindu@in.com
Fascist Trends in Indian Media
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Thats For sure…
If god knows the llimit of Hindus,surely he will come into action….
Hey Ram.. this land is in Your Hands..
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Dear Deepak Kamat
I wholeheartedly echo your concerns about the evil deeds of YSR. But please avoid using explitives (for ex b****) in the articles that appear on your website. It may prevent people from revisiting this website and we may lose upon number of Hindu brothers and sisters just on account of some trivial foibles.
Deepak
September 3rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Hi All,
At last all Hindus prayers are met. All the guys including Mohanji who has served and laid their life for saving Seven Hills will be very happy.
Sathya
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Nice article Deepak. Thats a great news indeed… Andhra Pradesh was slowly converting into a Total-Christian State under YSR.
Jai Shri Ram…
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:04 pm
i would like to pass my condolence to his family
September 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
OM NAMO VENKATESHAYA!!!
yadā yadā hi dharmasya
glānir bhavati bhārata
abhyutthānam adharmasya
tadātmānaḿ sṛjāmy aham
HARI OM!!
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
this is the lesson for everyone who dont believe the funishment of god for their guilty.
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
papoham pap karmaham papathma pap sambhav
September 3rd, 2009 at 5:15 pm
good! but y is this media behind him for whole day?
y is sonia rushing so fast? why holidays in neighbouring states? was d response same even when our soldiesrs sacrificed?
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
PARITRANAYA SADHOONAM VINASHAYACHA DUSKRUTAM …….NEXT ……..AFTER YSR…….LET US PRAY WITH LORD PRABHU SRI RAM TO PUNISH TAMIL NADU CM KARUNANIDHI
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
PARITRANAYA SADUNAM VINASHAYACHA DUSHKRUTAM …..NEXT TARGET……TAMILNADU CK KARUNANIDHI……..LET US PRAY PRABHU SRI RAMACHANDRA
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
SANATHANA DHARMA IS ALIVE. HINDU GODS ARE ALIVE AND THIS PROVES THAT LORD VENKATESWARA IS TRULY KALIYUGA DAIVAM
September 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
me from AP , from pulivendula .. i know hez ( YSR ) cheap this article is far too cheap . sorry deepak ,u shud have waited for a week or so . telling truth or expressing ur opinions are gud . but timing shud be rt . Timing…. i think u gt it.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Hi Deepak Bhai,
The article is superb. Lord Venkatesha is the god of Kaliyuga and anyone trying to play with him will have it back. He is the speaking god of the time.
And I do agree Deepak Paramashivan Kaundinya (2)
Bhakta Rakshaka Charanaravinda Govindaaaa Govinda
September 4th, 2009 at 9:22 am
I am shame of being a hindu.. I think, Christians are better than these fanatic hindus, who rejoice over a demise of an elected Chief Minister.
You guys digging the grave for Hinduism..
What will be your stand, if, YSR’s son, again a christian, becomes the CM coming week..
Foot on your mouth.. Govinda.Govinda,Goooooooooovinda
September 4th, 2009 at 9:26 am
May YSR’s soul rest in peace and find place next to God.
Also, my prayers and condolences for the families of the Pilot,co Pilot, Secretary and Security head, who passed away along with YSR in the crash.
May the “ONE GOD ALMIGHTY”, help all those families to come out of the loss.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:44 am
true hindu never hate anybody it is fools who think this way.as swamy vivekananda say “commencent of our death starts on the day we hate other”. we strogly belive only supreme being exisest what ever form and name may be.we advocate not one god princpel but only god principel that exist.that what our universal vedas declare .under stand go to depth of our scirpture what realy stand for .that is what is expected of true spirtual hindu who never ever be a fanatic. teach lesson through our beheior and condut not through spilling ugly immetuter utternces.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:55 am
@ Deepak Paramashivan and Nagesh Prabhu,
I was just expressing myself. Sonia is indeed a bitch. No doubts about it. I don’twant tobe politically correct.
@ Pseudosecularists who are ashamed to call themselves as Hindus,
Weren’t you ashamed when this bastard Andhra CM tried to take over the richest Hindu Temple?
Weren’t you ashamed when YSR outsourced making of Tirupati laddus to beef/pork eating Christians?
September 4th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Y Samuel Reddy is dead. But who is YSR?
By janamejayan
Andhra Chief Minister Y.Samuel Reddy was found dead at the site of a helicopter crash. It is believed that the helicopter was struck by a hill a fitting tribute to a man who tried to desecrate the seven holy hills of Thirupathi by trying to plant a church and sell off the Holy Hills to the christian missionaries. Now his ‘followers’ want to plant a huge statue of him bigger in size than Lord Venkateswara on the Holy Hills. I wonder what fate awaits them who want to carry on the desecration.
It seems to kindle new hopes in the hearts of the persecuted Hindus.
Here are some comments from the readers that I culled from the following url:
http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=Andhra+Pradesh+CM+YSR+is+dead&artid=2fIQCZsrin8=&SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&SEO=ysr,+chopper,+kurnool&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=
“Y Samuel R Reddy is “worth” 30,000 CRORES in Swindled Money all kept in Benami names. This has been taken and kept outside India. YSR’s Son has over 10,000 CRORES. If this YSR really ‘goes’, Sonia aka Antonia Maino will grab all the money! YSR is also the Ringleader for Christian Conversions in AP. CBN or Christian Broadcasting Network from the USA is now “Produced’ from AP in India. No wonder Antonia Sonis is ‘waiting’… YSR and Gang were the main Players in swindling of Satyam/Maytas, where over 40,000 CRORES was ‘Made’ . The Sad part is if YSR really ‘goes’ he cant take one single Rupee with him! Godammn Thieves!
By Kumar
9/3/2009 9:34:00 AM
Was this all Drama stage-managed by catholic churcch and Vatican agents and done using christian TV channels NDTV,Times Now, CNN-IBN etc to boost the popularity of christian CM Reddy and to CONVERT another million poor hindus tirbals and adivasis to christianity using fraud.Now that the chopper has been traced, all church agents&Vatican agents WILL shout jesus saved Reddy and that now all illiterate hindus and tribals Must convert to christianity.Trust crooked Catholic church and their agents to doo all sorts of dirty tricks and genocides since they have been doing these dirty tricks for centuries to fool millions,Now since Sonia Maino the vatican agent is ruling as empress every thing is possible in our banana republic.
By K.Vasishtt
9/3/2009 9:45:00 AM
why such a big drama for this goonda. if hes dead, its the best thing that happened to andhra in a long time. the poor long suffering andhrites must celebrate that vijayadasami has come a month early.
By raju
9/3/2009 10:46:00 AM
Andhra people are lucky. I wish this same to Karunanidhi. So Tamils too can celebrate.
By Indian
9/3/2009 10:53:00 AM
In Nov 2004 when Jaya’s police descended in Mahboob Nagar to arrest the Kanchi Sankaracharya on cooked-up charges, the entire AP official machinery including Y. Samuel Rajasekar Reddy did nothing to stop Amma but cooperated with her. Amma had the nerve to fool the world that the Sankaracharya was planning to fly to Nepal in a helicopter. Despite knowing this a blatant lie, Samuel Reddy kept quiet and allowed the Acharya to travel from his state handcuffed to Madras. Karma has come back to Samuel Reddy. Nothing more. Unbelievable – Samuel Reddy died on a Pradosham day in Rudrakonda hills.
By Kannan
9/3/2009 12:00:00 PM
This goonda ishas finally met the fate he dand his family dished out to many. This goonda never paid a single electricity bill for the power guzzling AP Carbides factory in Kurnool. His father was the goonda king of Prodattur and died in a bomb blast. Deservingly he met a gory death. He won both the state assembly elections by EVM fraud using ameerpet degree holders in ECIL. Deservingly an Ameerpet educated pilot and co-pilot killed him. If only the ameerpet pilots had learnt a bit of geography they would have flown to the west of Kurnool but thankfully divine retribution destroyed him as he sought to impose cultism on AP. Let all the 700 pastors who feasted on the day he became CM at Kurnool now commit suicide. Kurnool has delivered AP from it’s misery
By Bashir
9/3/2009 12:12:00 PM
This is the best thing happened to AP state. From now onwards good things will happen in state.
By Sudhakar
9/3/2009 3:07:00 PM
September 4th, 2009 at 10:11 am
@ Xavier, You have lost a great evagenlist fundamentalist. Good for Hindus.
Read this:
From ‘Haj’ subsidy to‘Bethlehem’ subsidy!
By janamejayan
By: V SUNDARAM
Make no mistake. Y Samuel Rajasekara Reddy is a known Seventh Day Adventist Christian committed to the cause of evangelical destruction of Hinduism, Hindu Society and Hindu Culture. He has been using the ever dying and transitory power of his high office with low evangelical motives ever since he assumed office as Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh 4 years ago.
In these columns on 4 July 2006, I had brought to public view the anti-Hindu and anti-National evangelical maneuveres of this Chief Minister in these telling words:
‘In Andhra Pradesh we have a Congress Government under a Christian Chief Minister who takes instructions from an effete UPA Government in New Delhi which is under the stranglehold of International Roman Catholicism. The Andhra Pradesh Government has been using its official Agencies for purposes of State-sponsored, State-aided and State-abetted Proselytism in Andhra Pradesh in a shamelessly flagrant manner during the last two years. Y. Samual Sekhara Reddy seems to be under the mistaken impression that he behave like Henry VIII (1509-1547) of Tudor England and that he can take Andhra Pradesh back to the 16th century using the International Roman Catholic might of the UPA Government in New Delhi. ……. While religious conversions are innately offensive, the rising political eminence of an Italian-born Roman Catholic has generated a corresponding growth of aggressive Proselytism at famous Hindu-pilgrimage and holy sites. Sonia Gandhi has reinforced the Missionary muscle by sponsoring the rise of Christians in Congress Governments and Party units on an unprecedented scale. Non-Christian Congress Chief Ministers have been made to acquiesce in missionary activities and outrageously ‘Leaky’ welfare schemes have been floated for the benefit of the tax-free NGO Industry, most of which is Christian and anti-Hindu. ……. Y. Samuel Rajasekara Reddy is actively promoting the physical and psychological encroachment upon the sacred spaces of Hinduism in a planned manner through carefully planted Christian Missionary Agencies.’
The legitimate fears expressed by me in July 2006 in these columns about the calculated anti-Hindu machinations and maneuveres of Y Samual Rajasekara Reddy have indeed come true today. The recent announcement of Andhra Chief Minister to the effect that the Andhra Pradesh Government would subsidize the holy pilgrimage to Bethlehem in Israel by Christians has to be viewed as abominable and preposterous. In my view it should be immediately scrapped. The Congress Government, headed by a Christian Chief Minister, has slyly used the Governor’s annual address to the State Legislative Council and Assembly to announce that it will ‘extend the Haj pilgrim scheme to Christian minorities also for their religious visits to Christian holy lands in Israel’. It clearly brings out the disgusting state of appalling ignorance that prevails in the higher echelons of the State Government about the underlying principles of a secular state defined under the Indian Constitution. This is nothing but craven and blatantly discriminatory MINORITY APPEASEMENT POLITICS at its worst and this has been done with focus only on the Parliamentary Elections to take place next year. During the last two years, Samuel Rajasekara Reddy has taken a subterranean disingenuous route to introduce job and education quotas for Muslims in order to avoid legal scrutiny. And now through his Christian subsidy for pilgrimages to Bethlehem and Jerusalem by plundering the public exchequer, he earnestly hopes that he will be able to swing the votes of Christians, who comprise 1.5 per cent of the State’s population, in favour of the Congress. Viewed on a larger national canvas, Samuel Rajasekara Reddy’s deplorable ploy is only a logical extension of the Congress game of subsidy politics introduced by Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru after our independence on 15 August 1947. It was Pandit Nehru who was responsible for introducing a communal and anti-secular system of subsidy for Haj pilgrims, running counter to the letter and spirit of the India Constitution in 1959. This system has been expanded year after year to cover nearly 1.5 lakh of Muslims every year. India is the only country in the world which gives the subsidy to the Haj Muslim Pilgrims. No Islamic country in the world gives this benefit to the Muslims.
No doubt that Christians in Andhra Pradesh are delighted by the announcement of Christian Subsidy by the Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister and Christian community leaders in New Delhi have lost no time in demanding that the Congress-led UPA Government should embrace Mr Reddy’s policy of Christian subsidy and convert it into a ‘national scheme’. Their point view is that if Muslims are entitled to subsidy for going on Haj, then there is no reason why Christians visiting the Church of Nativity should have to bear the entire expenditure.
It is a known fact that all the Hindu temple funds in all the States of India are being appropriated by the Government and almost wholly diverted for the benefit of minorities like the Muslims and Christians. This inequitable anti-Hindu system has been created through the Hindu Religious Endowments and Charitable Trusts Act. Keeping this in view Dr Subramanian Swamy has sent a letter to Karunanidhi yesterday (21 February 2008) in which he has spoken on behalf of the Hindus of Tamil Nadu and India as follows: ‘I write to enquire why your Government has not enacted an ISLAMIC MOSQUES RELIGIOUS ENDOWMENTS AND CHARITABLE TRUSTS ACT and a similar Act for CHRISTIAN CHURCHES, on the pattern of the Hindu Religious Endowments and Charitable Trusts Act. As you know, the Supreme Court and various High Courts in their Judgements have opined that there is NO CONSTITUTIONAL BAR to enacting such legislation. Hence, I am putting your Government on notice that I be informed whether your Government proposes to bring such a BILL for passage soon, but if not, why not? I shall be obliged if you can send me a written reply at the earliest, but not later than two weeks from the receipt of this letter.’
It is public knowledge that Karunanidhi treated Dr Subramanian Swamy’s letter on the imperative public need for the prevention of State destruction of Rama Setu Bridge sent last year, with his known anti-Hindu hatred and contempt. Against this background, Dr Subramanian Swamy can never hope to get any fair treatment or justice from the Government of Tamilnadu. He has to seek his justice only through the Supreme Court of India. Have not the Tamilnadu Government shown that the ‘Jallikattu’ issue is more important and sacred than the ‘Rama Setu’ issue? Strange indeed, if not totally perverse, are the wayward ways of Anti-Hindu Dravidian Rationalism!
Subsidizing Islamic and Christian pilgrimage is not the job of a secular State and— despite the mischievous and organized efforts of Sonia-Congress Party — India still remains a secular state and public funds are not meant to promote the quest for spiritual fulfillment. The original sin was committed by the Congress when, in the guise of ‘minority welfare’, it introduced what has now come to be known as ‘Haj subsidy’, an annual drain on the public exchequer to the tune of more than Rs 300 crores.
True pilgrims, irrespective of their faith, do not depend on Government subsidy; indeed, a faithful Muslim, Hindu or Christian would spurn such official ‘assistance’. No purpose, therefore, is going to be served by handing out cash, in whatever form, for undertaking pilgrimage, other than promoting vote-bank politics through questionable patronage at the tax-payer’s expense. I am of the view that all subsidies for pilgrimage, whether undertaken by Muslims, Hindus or Christians, should immediately be withdrawn. If the faithful feel the urge to visit their holy places, they will do so, as is the practice and custom in other countries where there is no such political subsidy system. Let the state focus on secular affairs.
Samuel Rajasekara Reddy’s recent scheme for Christianizing the State of Andhra Pradesh, through Christian subsidy, is a very dangerous move which is only a sub-agendum of his Italian Boss, whose hidden agenda is the De-Hinduising of Bharat. As B.R. Haran puts it: ‘Immediately after forming the Government, Samuel Reddy focused on making the divine Hindu Religious pilgrimage center Thirumala-Thirupathi as a picnic spot and a tourism centre by building amusement parks and other things required for spoiling the sanctity of the seven hills. He was forced to withdraw this sacrilegious venture due to the statewide agitation carried out by all Hindu organization. He also turned a blind eye to the attempted conversion activities by Churches and Missionaries particularly at Hindu pilgrimage centers like Thirupathi, Badrachalam, Simmachalam and Kalahasthi etc. …. The Christian Chief Minister also attempted to give away the Temple lands to Churches at subsidized rates, which again was stayed by the Andhra Pradesh High Court due to the timely legal action taken by the Devalaya Parirakshina Samithi. The Christians in India are not very particular about Jerusalem and they do not attach much importance to it and they have never demanded any subsidies for such rare trips. As the Christians in India are converts, converted by deceit, force and allurement, most of them do not even know the so-called history of Jesus, whether he really existed or not, etc. Also most of the Indian Christians are well off and very few prefer to visit Jerusalem or Vatican and they do it on their own. So, this move of granting subsidies to Christian pilgrimage by the AP Chief Minister is nothing short of ‘bribing’ for ‘votes’, which is uncalled for and unwarranted. This move is bound to create ugly ramifications in the society and hence deserves to be nipped in the bud.’
September 4th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Andhra’s Christist CM – Y Samuel Rajashekhara Reddy
Posted December 7, 2005
hindunews.blogspot.com
By S V Badri
Religious money
Give me an honest answer. You visit Bhagawan Tirupati Venkateshwara?s Mandir (Balaji Mandir) or any Mandir in Andhra Pradesh .You have the devotion to make a monetary offering into the Hundi. You feel it is your private equation with the Bhagawan. You fulfill your Prarthana as you make a humble drop into to the Hundi. Some of you have saved this money painfully over years and in several cases enduring pangs of hunger to make this offering. That is the extent of your devotion.
Secular money
Are you aware that till the last nano-second that the money or the offering was in your hands, it was ?religious money? because your Bhakti veils your eyes as you think that this money that is offered will be sacredly used by the A P Government for Hindu religious purposes like maintenance of the Mandir, its development and for propagation of Hindu religious causes, payment of salaries of Archakas or for the regular conduct of Pujas and rituals as per the Aagamas and Sastras. You assume this is what the AP Government is doing with your offering, because this is a Hindu Mandir and you are a devout Hindu offering the money out of total surrender to the Bhagawan. You are painfully ignorant what happens to this money once it gets into the Hundi. You just assume that it is being used for a Hindu cause. Perhaps you are one of those who just does not care because your job is done and it is up to the Mandirs to use it as they deemed fit. Yes Mandirs will use it as they deem fit if they are out of Government control. So if you think that your money is used only for Hindu purposes, banish the thought.
Because, the moment the money slips into the Hundi, the Government ?converts? it into ?secular money?.
How can you explain why Mandir funds alone should be the target of the Government to draw as they please for other than Hindu religious purposes?
Money down the drain
Take for instance, the recent decision of the Government and the Government sponsored TTD Board to spend the Bhakta?s ?religious money? for ?secular? purpose of constructing the underground drainage.
Tell me if it is the duty of the Government to provide the drainage or the duty of the Mandir? So your money finds its way down the drain.
Or its diversion to the Veterinary College development, not connected to the religious institution? Whose responsibility is this, the Government?s or the Mandir?s?
Will Lalu give Railway lands for mandir constructions?
The AP Government through the TUDA (Tirupati Urban Development Authority) demanded from the TTD a sum of Rs 6 crores towards property and other taxes so it could have the money required to construct an Idgah Maidan on the Railway lands abetting the Bhagawan?s lands. Obviously, because it is Idgah Maidan, secular Lalu did not object. And the secularists rushed to facilitate its completion. What if a Hindu wanted to construct a Mandir on the Railway lands? Will the same secularists come forward with such glee? Remember, Lalu ordered removal of Mandirs on Railway lands?
Christist YSR unhappy with his Endowment Minister
I am told that the money was stopped in the last minute after strong protests and the intervention of the Endowment Minister, M Satyanarayana, who as I understand, is fighting a losing battle against the Christist YSR. Well-placed sources indicate that this minister is likely to lose his berth unless he ?converts? himself from being a good Hindu to being an ?adorable-secularist? as the Christist YSR wants him to be. Meaning, YSR does not want the Minister to raise objections to the usage of Mandir funds for Monotheistic religious purposes. Knowledgeable circles in AP confided with me that the Christist YSR takes joy in making the officials of the Endowment Department to over-rule the Minister and to ridicule him at every opportunity. People who were present during the ?Ugadi Puraskarams? functions this year are witness to how the Endowment Minister was humiliated and made most uncomfortable by the Christist YSR. In Bhadrachalam, 12 acres of lands belonging to the Sri Rama Mandiram was given away to a Christist organisation (apparently for the construction of a school there), who ended up constructing a church for converting the local tribals. The Minister was apparently unhappy with this and was denied the protocol honours during his recent visit for Sri RamaNavami celebrations.
Money for Idgah maidan- Yes; Money for Mandir renovation – No
YSR found Rs 6 crores for the construction of the Idgah Maidan in the Holy Town of Tirupati. But can find no money when 10,000 Mandirs languish for funds in the very backward areas of his State. He will not give them Mandirs. As a true Christist he wants them to remain a fertile ground for the breed of new phoren evangelicals to arrive and harvest.
Plant a church. Plant 50. Plant 100. Plant a1000…….
YSR?s folks in the Adventists will give them churches instead. Plant a church. Plant hundred. Plant a thousand. After all, did he not ask the Adventists to make a church on his farm land for the benefit of 300 converts? How can a Hindu trust this man who is more evangelical in his mission than the Pope Benedict XVII ? And the worst, he does it masquerading as a Hindu. Many would not even know that he is a convert/born again Christist.
Render the ground fertile. So the phirangis come to harvest.
With Mandirs and Mandir activity rendered systematically extinct in backward areas, it is no wonder that our Dalit and backward Hindu brethren find themselves spiritually bankrupt. Because Christists like YSR want them to be spiritually bankrupt so the missionaries can come and take over their souls with their brand of hatred of Hindu practices and Gods, disguised as love and social service. YSR is silently making room for the imported evangelicals to usurp the Dalits and the backwards so they can bear the cross for the rest of their lives. And he can bank on their votes at the call of a Samuel. Shame.
Are Hindus incompetent to run their institutional affairs?
The recent decision to facilitate Christian infiltration into the TTD affairs through the Ugranam material deal with the firm owned by a Syrian Christian of Kerala and the tele-medical facility deal he inaugurated, between SVIMS (Sri Venkateswara Institute of Medical Sciences) and the Christist institutions like the Frontline / Madras Medical Mission combo of Dr.Cherian should also make the secularists proud. Because for the likes of Christist YSR, Mandirs are for mad people while the creative ones rush to the church. How can Hindus expect him to be sensitive to their issues? Tomorrow, he will have Christian auditors, Christian administrators or even Christian parishioners doing Yesu Sahasranama to Bhagawan Venkateshwara. Who knows what my grand child has to witness in this sacred Mandir years from now?
Mandir money for ?secular sexual? use
A P Government had recently decided to construct guesthouses and rest rooms on various highways using the TTD money. Bhagawan?s money will be put to some ?secular sexual use? to create rendezvous for the benefit of some unscrupulous ministers and bureaucrats to sleep with the concubines.
Where is Hindu religious cause here? Why should one permit the TTD to become the Government appointed nodal agency to appease minorities or to undertake projects other than the Hindu Dharmic ones?
Page 3 Chairman and the Christist broker
Both The flamboyant Page 3 personality and TTD Chairman, T Subbirami Reddy (Cong-I) and the Christist YSR Government owe an explanation to the Bhaktas of Bhagawan Venkateshwara for betraying our trust. Join me in my prayers to the Kaliyuga Nayaka, Sri Venkateshwara (Bhagawan Balaji) to render the most severe punishment on each one of these starting from Christist YSR down to the last peon who is involved in this systematic assault, rape, plunder and loot of His Mandir and its possessions.
Lessons from Christist YSR Government on How to ruin a prosperous Mandir:
Let us now examine the orderly way the Christist YSR government acts to make all our Hindu Mandirs go bankrupt. Before one starts reading this, it should be stored in our minds that the Government has taken over the Hindu Mandirs as a Trustee. It has no right of ownership. And you will come to the conclusion that this A P Government is worse than the British when it comes to inflicting damage on our Hindu institutions and the Hindus as a whole.
There are 370,000 acres of Mandir lands in AP. Of this, the Endowment Department does not even have records of lands to the extent of 100,000 acres. Does this surprise you? The Hindu Religious Endowment Department is infiltrated by Christian administrators in the guise of Hindus.
So we have a trustee who does not even have proper accounting system. What should you do to him? What would you do if your accountant failed you? Trash him? Throw him out? And what are we doing to these trustees who have betrayed our trust.
A Ministry that does not have annual budgetary allocation
You might be surprised to learn that the AP Hindu Religious Endowment Department is the only department in AP which does not get a single Rupee as the Annual Budgetary allocation from the A P Government. So this Department has no Governmental source of funding. Then how does this department manage to run its blasting path of systematic destruction of our Mandirs? How does it manage the vast empire of unwanted elements in the garb of employees?
Simple. In addition to having all the Mandir resources at its control, it collects 15% of total revenues from larger Mandirs like the Tirupati Mandir and 12% from smaller Mandirs. In addition, it collects 3% uniformly from all the Mandirs towards what it has called as ?common-good-fund?. Anything that starts with the word Common is just plain bullshit. You saw that in the Common Minimum Programme, too. Didn?t you? Now, the Government, in addition to dipping its hands into the Hundi collections can just can dip into this common-good -fund also for any activity of its choice ?depending on if the CM was a Christist or a Muslim or a commie or an atheist or just an anti-national bloke who wants to cremate Hindu institutions and scatter its ashes across the Vatican or the Mecca like Mahmud Ghaznavi did of the Dwaraka?s Murti of Bhagawan Krishna.
Check the AP government Website and show me the Endowment Department there:
It might surprise you that the Endowment Department is not featured in the Official website of the Government of AP while even the Minority Welfare Department has a link presented in the website. So our Trustee is very secretive. Wants to hide from the public glare. And least credible because he shuns the public domain. What is it afraid of?
Known Christists ? unknown Christists
Take a look at the number of known Christists who ruled the State since its formation:
1. Kasu Brahmananda Reddy
2. N. Janardhana Reddy
3. Y Samuel Rajashekhara Reddy
Add to these three Christians, sympathisers of the variety of Chandra Babu Naidu, whose regime saw the State-sponsored and facilitated upshoots of the towering statues of Mother Teresa competing with Ambedkar in every nook and corner of AP. There are also strong rumours doing rounds that Chandra Babu?s wife, Bhuvaneshwari (daughter of the Late NTR) practices Christianity secretly and is in touch with the Seventh Day Adventist missionary. Readers should also know that it is believed in certain circles that Chandrababu Naidu has interests in an abattoir with Saudi links that slaughters countless cows for export of beef. If this is true I am not amazed why he was the first to take the flight to meet Vajpayee and ?strongly? demand the dropping of the very idea of a ?Prevention of Cow Slaughter? Bill, when BJP was Hindu enough in its early days of governance.
Sanction for the repairs ? Hindus get into debt trap
Days before Chandra Babu Naidu of TDP lost his elections, he sanctioned Rs. 75 Crores towards repairs and restoration of some Mandirs in AP. The Endowment Department had no funds. The Government undertook the work. And in many cases, the presiding deities were dragged out into the open under the pretext of renovation and left to fend for themselves against the vagaries of nature. In some Mandirs, local bhaktas formed groups to facilitate renovations. Such bills ran up to Rs. 48 crores. And the Government made just a token re-imbursement, thus putting various Hindu Bhaktas into a debt trap. The Government still owes this money.
Now, where does it decide to look for the money?
The Government has already started plundering the Tirupati Balaji?s wealth. Now, it wants to be seen as being fair to Him. It does not want people to perceive it as being selective in its destruction. So it tells the world that Tirupati Balaji was not willing to give money for these projects so they have to scout for another Mandir, to satiate their rapacious appetite for systematic destruction of Hindu institutions. I would like to call this as: The Secular chain reaction to the deliberate distribution of destruction.
Simhachalam Narasimha Swamy ? A P Government?s new target of plunder:
The Government has now set its eyes on Simhachalam. On Simhadri Narasimha Swami. And His thousands of acres of lands. These lands are in the Vizag district of Andhra Pradesh. About 1500 to 2000 acres of these lands are under illegal occupation. In most cases, it is simply not traceable as to who sold these lands and to whom; the registration has long since been done, with the connivance of various ministers and officials. Thousands of houses and bungalows have come up on these illegally occupied lands. The current occupants claim that they have been in the ?enjoyment? of these lands for the past 10 to 15 years and if the Government comes forward to ?regularize? the land transaction and decide on the price, they are willing to pay. Now, even squatters make the rules.
Can you give an honest figure, YSR?
Will the Government dare reveal how many practitioners of other than Hindu faith who constitute this large number of illegal occupants? Or publish the number of churches / mosques that have come up on these Mandir lands? In 1842, in the whole of Madras presidency, the number of churches were 847 and of Roman Catholic denomination. A current estimate says that there are a million churches in the same region. Where did this growth and the money for such a growth come from? In just 100 plus years.
A new Committee is born in the barn. Some have seen stars and dollar signs
A few years ago a committee was formed for the express purpose of ?regularizing? these illegal occupations of the lands belonging to Simhadri Narasimha Swami Mandir. The committee lied low, perhaps taking time to make its own deals by virtue of being given the opportunity to officially deal with the squatters. Now, the Christist YSR Government has formed a new Committee comprising of a few MLAs and officials to look into this matter of ?regularizing? the land in favour of the illegal occupants. This committee is expected to submit its report shortly, highlighting its observations and recommendations. The price per Square Yard is under consideration. The lands where there are no constructions will be sold ?as is where is?. They expect an inflow of Rs. 125 crores. Of this, Rs. 48 crores will be disbursed towards works already committed and in progress. The rest will be used for the requirements and running of the AP Endowment Department. This is as far as the 2000 acres of the Simhadri Mandir lands, now concluded as in illegal occupation by squatters, of whichever faith and denomination they belong to.
Government decides to sell Over 100,000 acres of Mandir lands in AP
In addition to the lands belonging to the Mandir of Simhachalam Sri Narasimha Swamy, the Endowment Department has decided to sell 100,000 acres of lands belonging to various Mandirs in AP and which are either under dispute or have been illegally occupied by all and sundry. The Government has decided that a committee comprising of all the MLAs will be constituted for this purpose. This committee is empowered to decide the price. There are 370,000 acres of Mandir lands under the control of the Endowment Department. Of this, the department has no records for Mandir lands to the extent of 100,000 acres. Of the rest of 270,000 acres, thousands of acres are under illegal occupation.
Who gives this Christist Government the right to sell the Mandir lands?
Why should the Hindu Samaj remain indifferent and inactive to such naked aggression and rape of our revered institutions by a Christist? The kings of yesteryears were the Trustees of our Mandirs in their time. They were only keen to add to the Mandir assets with each passing year. The current day kings, and the born-again Christist kings like YSR, seem to deem it their duty to the church as they systematically strip us to the last fibre and parade us as pagans.
Take a look hard look at few of these facts:
1. 10,000 Mandirs in AP alone are in the worst possible state. There is no money for lighting a single lamp each day. Nor is Nivedyam presented to the Presiding Deity each day. In many Mandirs there is no money to pay for the salaries of the staff and the Archakas. WILL THEY DO THIS TO THE CHURCH OWNED LANDS?
2. The church is the largest real-estate owner in the country, next only to the Government and no single Government dares to bring this under its control. Nor can it ever dream of using the church lands for social justice measures like giving it away to Dalits or the Naxals or to Hindu religion for constructing Mandirs or the much needed Hindu schools/ Patashalas. Informed sources say that the Naxal distribution of Mandir lands in AP is happening with the very blessings of the Christist YSR. After all when it comes to Hindus, the Government which is just a ?trustee? will suddenly assume ?ownership? of these lands while bartering it for vote-bank politics and for appeasement of minorities.
3. Let us assume that I form a Trust and do what the AP Government is doing today as a Trustee. I would be instantly prosecuted and hauled in for fraudulent activity, betrayal of trust and would be ordered to dismantle it, under the law of the land. It is evident that the AP Government seems to conclude that it is above the Trust laws. It can do what it pleases when it comes to destroying Hindu institutions. And the trust that the Hindu Bhaktas impose on it to take care of its Mandirs be damned.
Can you expect YSR to be sympathetic to Hindu causes?
How can you expect this Christist YSR to be sympathetic to Hindu causes, its institutions and the sentiments of its Bhaktas? It is a shame that the TTD should allow him into the Hindu Mandir of Tirupati without asking him to sign the mandatory declaration of his allegiance to the Bhagawan. Worse still, he is allowed to come alone and not escorted by his wife as a Grihasta should do, when he visits the Mandir to give the Vastram to the Bhagawan during the Brahmhotsavam. I am told that she is a devout Christian and does not want perhaps to put up an act like her husband, who is bound political and monetary compulsions to deceive poor Hindus. I may be wrong on this but I have not seen her with him during such visits to the Balaji Mandir.
Hindus should understand that this AP Government is headed by a rabid Christian who cohabits with the virulent Adventists, silently promoting baptisms by the thousands in his State.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Being a elected CM he should not behave like this. these peoples should realise one thing with all type of elleagal forces can not destroy the strong Hindu culture.
with these type of articles will give the mformations how his govt ruled the AP
shame on YSR Shame on Congress
September 4th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
yatha yatha e dharmasya…… abyuthanam atharmasya thatha ……. pavithranaya sadhu na vinasaya sathushkrutham dharm samstha bhanathaya sambha vami yug yug…bhagawath geetha
Adiyar sitham kalan ka seithavan aviyur andamau oru andil adangumay ethu Nadhi en mel anai…Thirumular..
This blady samuel rajesekar is latest rakshs… why jesus did not save him… even this bladies body did not get for 26 hours.. even when we got also half legs and part of hands thats all… its once again kamsa vatham
September 4th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
“”"”"me from AP , from pulivendula .. i know hez ( YSR ) cheap this article is far too cheap . sorry deepak ,u shud have waited for a week or so . telling truth or expressing ur opinions are gud . but timing shud be rt . Timing…. i think u gt it.”"
kamat
its only good time.. we have to celebrate… Its celebration like kamsa vatha… this begger is worse than kamsa..god is great…
Let them understand that this dharma cant be distrayed by any bloodies.
September 4th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Deepak is a liar, a Satan… He is publishing lies… The full name of the Andhra CM is
Dr. Yeduguri Sandinti Rajasekhara Reddy.
But he is a Christian convert. He came to know the light, the true God. BTW do u ppl know the services he rendered to the people.
He is not like u rogues who separate the country in the name of religion… He helped all people in the same way and did not differentiate anyone.
Look at the funeral services and look at the number of people attending the service.
People are walking all the way. They are not bringing people in trucks like the corrupt politicians do(to whom deepak is working for)
Instead of praying for departed souls, satanic and jobless people like Deepak have no other work to do than to raise irresponsible rumours.
An idle man’s brain is a devils‘ workshop
September 4th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
^^
It is the duty of a thief to defend another thief.
Ajit is also a Crypto-Christian.
So, no wonder, he is defending YSR.
September 4th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
The Christian record in shedding blood is historic. no need for repitition.
September 4th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
@Crypto-Christian Ajit,
What is your opinion on Lord Venkateshwara? is he in darkness? After all, Christian beliefs do not have high regard for hindu gods wallowing in darkness.
September 4th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Dont deviate the topic Deepak…
Give proper answers.. Dont shy away from the truth..
September 4th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
@Ajith
Both Devil and Jesus are inventions of Christists. Having said that it is better to have the so called Devil in your brain than a god in whose name millions of people were massacred across the globe.
And what is good, Phædrus,
And what is not good…
Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?”
September 4th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
@Phaedrus
Sorry to say that u are ignorant….
Please go through history and find for yourself that Jesus Christ is real and the whole civilization is centralized around Him.
Do u know Acharya Dhanunjaya Sastry??
He used to be the chief priest of Tirupathi temple. After reading vedas, he kept on searching for the truth and finally read the Bible and is now a Christian.
You can listen to his testimonies on the net(its in telugu).
The point here is that u guys even dont know that Christ is present in your Hindu Vedas itself.
Do u know that all priests who read the slokas and vedas dont know the meanings of them?? They just read them blindly…
September 4th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
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“To be fair, much of the Bible is not systematically evil but just plain weird, as you would expect of a chaotically cobbled-together anthology of disjointed documents, composed, revised, translated, distorted and ‘improved’ by hundreds of anonymous authors, editors and copyists, unknown to us and mostly unknown to each other, spanning nine centuries”
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The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
September 4th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
@@@@@@@@@@@ AJIT
As ajit said . so many people coming to see his funeral .. hez rt . ppl are coming like hell to get confirm in first hand . i can see smirks on their faces leaving the funeral ..
Hez v corrupted politician , did some good works too.. thats one reason why i love democracy !!! even YSR need to do good things so as to survive .
hez very cunning . in think matter i like his father Raja reddy ( a mass murderer ) at least he keep things straight .
as u said he helped all the people( a little more for reddys) and differentiated none( yep, money has no religion) .after he came to power look at those reddys . how much wealth they accumulated in these 6 years .
as far as religion is concerned . u ever been to kadapa churches ? .. it happened once . i had to stay in christian guest house in kadapa a night .. oh god!! that night i happen listened those so called fathers and pasters talk, .. no doubt christianinty and churches are business in these areas .. hubs of evils deeds. thsese people are corrupt , no doubt in it .
September 4th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
What ever you say or discuss here..
Finally, hindus have lost Andhra state to Evangelists.. Surprisingly, many of Andra Brahmins have also converted to Christianity. Eastern Andhra is spearheading with Christ.
You can only keep your caste priviledged names like Arora,Kamat,Kini,Iyengar,Sharma etc, and keep inciting the innocent hindus..
In reality, hinduism has already lost the battle.. Heading for a slow death.
Im sad to witness this…
September 4th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
To all:-
YSR is not a new convert.. His father got converted as Christian while in Burma war..
And they were land lords for known generations..
September 4th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
A joker is telling Hinduism is losing a battle. These coward morons doesn’t even have the guts to put in their real pastor names and challenge, for the simple reason that they themselves are aware that just buy converting to a stupid sect there isn’t anything they yearned in life.
September 4th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
ok Its absolutely nonsense to say that “ ….Hinduism has already lost the battle.. Heading for a slow death………”
Hinduism is one of the most ancient religion in the world & ofcourse never going to be dead , I am not a hindu but geographically being an indian I am a Hindu. As long as India exists Hinduism & hindus will exist in majority . I believe Hindism is based on vedas , quite above & more vast than what some fundametalist & communal hindus make it out to be . But such fundametalist will always be in minority .
LOL
September 4th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Dunno who list battle or who converted first or last . what i know now for sure is .. AJIT converted into HUMAN ..LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL……..
September 4th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Dunno who lost d battle or who converted first or last . what i know now for sure is .. AJIT converted into HUMAN ..LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL……..
September 4th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
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September 4th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
@Anil arora
You wont find a country like India where indiscipline is liked the most and is encouraged by many politicians. You have many politicians who also justify taking law into their own hands… The main reason – a holey book that they follow. Their master/god is a thief himself and lures around girls. They kill, break rules… And thats what follows suit in the country today. U say i like democracy but are not able to stand or walk with christians… Thats not democracy… The hatered campaign that Mr Deepak has done is not democracy…
@Phaedrus
Shamelessly copying content from elsewhere. If you are not able to answer me u are turning to google…
The God of the old testement is the same as the God of the new testement. We dont have a battalion of gods who need arms to protect themselves. God does not need heavy artillery of weapons to protect himself. He is the creator and all his creation must worship Him. God has given us freewill on earth and we are living by His grace. If He was so angry like u mentioned, mankind would have been killed including the souls long back…. You dont know the anger of God and dont invite it to yourself. God hates sin but he loves us sinners. But if you keep on loving sin and commit sin against your conscience you will have to answer God.
@Anil arora
If you call Deepak as a human after his hatered campaign, I’m sorry for you. Humans are supposed to love each other, thats what my Bible says. Thats a command to every Christian “Love thy neighbour as thyself”
If anyone is not doing that, he is definately bound to hell. Be it Antony, Ram or Rahim… God looks at the heart and not the external appearances/names.
@Deepak
Deepak u are a liar. I proved that earlier. See how u manipulated the Chief Ministers name… Dirty liar.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Fuck bastard Deepak Kamath!!!
A liar who lies thru his teeth! A mentally deranged!
Everyone read here!
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/A-Christian-YSR-a-regular-at-Tirumala/articleshow/4969168.cms
September 4th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Despite all the proud proclamation about Sanatana, vasudaiva and what not, you failed to see a human being beyond the color of the religion.
This is a man who initiated an ambulance program by which a patient or any patient, regardless of the financial background will be ferried to the nearest competent hospital, which is obliged to provide the proper treatment. It is said that more 44,000 people were saved by this program alone.
And you think Gods were angry with him? What do u think? Gods are as small minded as you are?
September 4th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I’m always having this simple question since my childhood…
Can gods be unholy?
Can a God steal butter/Rape the dalit/ Cut the nose and breasts?
If so, why I need God….. I can jolly well be an atheist or a communist?
Why I need a flirting blue blood boy as God?
September 4th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Despite all the proud proclamation about Sanatana, vasudaiva and what not, you failed to see a human being beyond the color of the religion.
This is a man who initiated an ambulance program by which a patient or any patient, regardless of the financial background will be ferried to the nearest competent hospital, which is obliged to provide the proper treatment. It is said that more 44,000 people were saved by this program alone.
And you think Gods were angry with him? What do u think? Gods are as small minded as you are?
They all dont see the good things.. and dont do good to others… The above points clearly reflect the sick ideologies of Sanatandharma, vaudaiva… Hinduisim is only good for Brahmins, so that, with all the Dharma, the brahmins can do the Adharma and keep the nonbrahmins as foot soldiers.
LONG LIVE BRAHMINS.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
And Mr.Human, btw, do u know why the Gods are angry?
It is becoz he allegdly outsourced the cooking of laddus to some christians. As if Gods really care who prepared the laddus!
How small minded!
September 5th, 2009 at 11:56 am
<b>HEY NAJEEB AND AJITH,
Dudes, Hindu awakening is on the cards. You guys like it or not Hindu consolidation is happening. Oh! by the way please check and do care to read the following and do your conclusions. Awake guys. India’s growth and its youth(70%) are a big trouble for White hegemony particularly for the US control over the world. So please with a neutral mind and of course with Indianess read this.
Go to http://www.joshuaproject.net and you will find India being the current focus of these evangelicals. NAJEEB your sects name with islam being the religion will be found at (you have to wait for a while . it is a big database about 2500 people groups in India, our motherland)
http://joshuaproject.net/countries.php?rog3=IN
it is a comprehensive database of evangelical activities updated on a fortnightly basis. They update it regularly. Also you can find the North East India is having ethnic problems but this site will prove that NE is 95% christian and the following link will show why http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism . please do your research under the links within India section.
NAJEEB the whole idea of Joshua project when it was started under George Bush’s regime was to raise atleast 100 million Hindu converts to fight the war against Islam. This is because of a paper written by Prof Samuel Hutington in 1993: The Clash of Civilizations and Remaking of the world Order.
Please do care to visit http://www.missionindia.org and check http://missionindia.org/about/whyIndia. And do not miss this page http://missionindia.org/about/history . Since 2004 (ie since UPA under Antonio) it has become easy for these guys and you can find it at the above link.
NOW THIS IS AMERICAN FASCISM USING CHRISTIANITY AS A TOOL. THEY WANT COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE WORLD. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE FOLLOWIN LINK UNDER JOSHUAPROJECT TO SEE WHY THEY WANT TO DO THIS :
http://www.joshuaproject.net/10-40-window.php
See how this term and project came into existence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10/40_Window
There is a very clearly postulated article by the creator of this whole project Luis Bush and you can all read it here http://www.ad2000.org/tut0701.htm . Look at the India(Hindu) focus of this article.
CHILLING ISN’T IT. NOW ALL INDIAN WHO ARE CONVERTING SHOULD THINK. ALL INDIAN MUSLIMS WHO SUPPORT ANTONIO MAINO AND SAMUEL REDDY, SHEELA DIXIT(SHE IS A CHRISITAN AND HER SISTER IS PAMELA), AJIT JOGI, SHIBU SOREN, THOMAS VADAKAN, OSCAR FERNANDES, AMBIKA SONI, ROBERT VADHERA, AK ANTONY AND MANY MORE XTIANS SHOULD FIRST START THINKING AS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR COUNTRY.
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September 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am
<b>HEY NAJEEB AND AJITH,
Dudes, Hindu awakening is on the cards. You guys like it or not Hindu consolidation is happening. Oh! by the way please check and do care to read the following and do your conclusions. Awake guys. India’s growth and its youth(70%) are a big trouble for White hegemony particularly for the US control over the world. So please with a neutral mind and of course with Indianess read this.
Go to http://www.joshuaproject.net and you will find India being the current focus of these evangelicals. NAJEEB your sects name with islam being the religion will be found at (you have to wait for a while . it is a big database about 2500 people groups in India, our motherland)
http://joshuaproject.net/countries.php?rog3=IN
it is a comprehensive database of evangelical activities updated on a fortnightly basis. They update it regularly. Also you can find the North East India is having ethnic problems but this site will prove that NE is 95% christian and the following link will show why http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism . please do your research under the links within India section.
NAJEEB the whole idea of Joshua project when it was started under George Bush’s regime was to raise atleast 100 million Hindu converts to fight the war against Islam. This is because of a paper written by Prof Samuel Hutington in 1993: The Clash of Civilizations and Remaking of the world Order.
Please do care to visit http://www.missionindia.org and check http://missionindia.org/about/whyIndia. And do not miss this page http://missionindia.org/about/history . Since 2004 (ie since UPA under Antonio) it has become easy for these guys and you can find it at the above link.
NOW THIS IS AMERICAN FASCISM USING CHRISTIANITY AS A TOOL. THEY WANT COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE WORLD. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE FOLLOWIN LINK UNDER JOSHUAPROJECT TO SEE WHY THEY WANT TO DO THIS :
http://www.joshuaproject.net/10-40-window.php
See how this term and project came into existence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10/40_Window
There is a very clearly postulated article by the creator of this whole project Luis Bush and you can all read it here http://www.ad2000.org/tut0701.htm . Look at the India(Hindu) focus of this article.
CHILLING ISN’T IT. NOW ALL INDIAN WHO ARE CONVERTING SHOULD THINK. ALL INDIAN MUSLIMS WHO SUPPORT ANTONIO MAINO AND SAMUEL REDDY, SHEELA DIXIT(SHE IS A CHRISITAN AND HER SISTER IS PAMELA), AJIT JOGI, SHIBU SOREN, THOMAS VADAKAN, OSCAR FERNANDES, AMBIKA SONI, ROBERT VADHERA, AK ANTONY AND MANY MORE XTIANS SHOULD FIRST START THINKING AS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR COUNTRY.
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September 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
@ Najeeb,
If laddus can be prepared by Christians, then you can also eat eminently Christian porks (which are considered haram by Muslims).
How small minded?
September 5th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
@ All Mullahs, Padres and pseudosecularists,
Reserve your hatred for your killer faiths which killed crores in the name of Jehad, Inquisitions and Revolutions.
September 5th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Deepak
F*** OFF WITH YOUR RETARDED IDEAS AND YOUR RETARDED SITE!
YUO SON OF A P********!
September 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
@ Harry Potter,
Abuses cannot substitute for facts.
September 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
That is what is called twisted logic, Deepak.
Muslims, or any normal people who are not narrow minded will buy things from followers of any other religon, which they will buy from their co-religionists. Muslims will not buy pork even if it is sold by muslims. So there is no questions of buying pork sold by christians.
Silly!
September 5th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
All your pathetic lies have been exposed to the whole world including your logic.
Just fuck off! you lowlife lying son of a cock-sucking whore!
You just dont have ANY proof of your accusations!
Motherfuckling retarded animal!
September 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
@ Harry Potter,
Your abuses are a proof of your helplessness. Carry on.
September 5th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
@ Najeeb,
Your silly logic has been exposed. When you cannot buy pork from Christians, why do you expect us to eat Christian laddus in Hindu temple?
September 5th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
@ Najeeb,
Either you have not read the Koran or you are resorting to Taqia.
Koran and Hadiths very clearly tells the faithful to convert or kill the non-believers.
That is why Muslims have killed millions of Hindus in the past. The term Hindu Kush means mountains of Hindu skulls. The connection between Islam and terrorism is an established fact.
We Hindus may be narrowminded. But we don’t kill in the name of religon. We don’t suicide bomb in the name of religon.
Islam and Christianity is a mental disease. Hinduism is freedom of faith. As simple as that.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Deepak ji, are you on twitter? please let us know your twitter id if you have one. otherwise, it is a good place where you can let us know your opinions on a frequent basis.
i am at http://twitter.com/deshabhakta
September 6th, 2009 at 4:54 am
“Your silly logic has been exposed. When you cannot buy pork from Christians, why do you expect us to eat Christian laddus in Hindu temple?”
There is no silly logic here, and you are simply wrong. As I mentioned earlier, muslims will not by pok at all – they do not eat it. let alone ‘christian pork.’ Where is the silly logic? If muslims buy pork sold by muslims and not by christians, then you are correct. But that is happening in ur head only!!
Another point to mention is there is no such thing as christian pork, there is only pork. There is no christian luddos, just luddos. There is no religion for animals and other objects.
Why I called the whole article is silly is becoz you said ‘Gods’ punished him for outsourcing the luddos to christians. It is pure silly, man. I urge you to think first before you post ur silly articles.
I also urge you to remove the picture of Swami Vivekanda and Chandrashekhar Azad (Is it he) from your site. It is shameful! They represented a totally different kind of humanity. You can put Togadia or Narendra Modi there. They are more suitable for your site.
“Koran and Hadiths very clearly tells the faithful to convert or kill the non-believers.”
That is altogether another topic. You can start another thread and may be we will discuss the matter there, though i have no reason to believe you.
“We Hindus may be narrowminded.”
Pls dont generalise. There are many Hindus, I know who will not agree to be grouped together with you. Sorry to say, but they shy away from your ilk.
September 6th, 2009 at 5:18 am
“Islam and Christianity is a mental disease. Hinduism is freedom of faith. As simple as that.”
I will agree it for the sake of arguement! Provided you can show some aspects of the principle of “Hinduism is freedom of faith” in ur thoughts n articles! Are you able to ?
When u r able to exhibit the finess of ur belief system, then is the time to discuss about other religions. Otherwise, what is the use? If you cant absorb what you purpotedly belief, and change urself for better, what is the use of thinking aboutand accusing of other religions.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
@Najeeb,
Islam is a medieval belief system where the non-believer should either be killed or converted. Go, ask your Mullah and readthe Koran.
If I am lying, I amprepared to be stoned to death according to your Shariah.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Also see how your peaceful Muslims go on a riot in Miraj, Sangli.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd2jL8o6Oys
September 6th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
@ Najeeb,
Wrong interpretation. I was gleeful when YSR died because such a traitor who swindledthe publicand tried to play withthesentimentsof Hindus deserved todiesuch a horrible death.
I don’tknowthe Gods. But it is my opinion.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
@ Najeeb,
Show me one instance where I was narrowminded. And I will shve my moustache.
September 6th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Show me one instance where I was narrowminded. And I will shve my moustache
Deepak, do you have one?? dont expose your weakness, while representing a gullible hindu
September 6th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Wrong interpretation. I was gleeful when YSR died because such a traitor who swindledthe publicand tried to play withthesentimentsof Hindus deserved todiesuch a horrible death.
The problem with the hindus which puts us in shame in the global map is our narrow mindedness and our inferiority complex over the white man…
Also, our religion is more complex, it only gives preference to the Brahmins.. Why one wants to be a member of a club, where majority of viewed as born low.
Why we have names like Kamat, Iyer,Kini,Sharma?
September 7th, 2009 at 5:54 am
“I am sure that the Gods were angry and dealt a blow to the evangelical dreams.” – from the original post.
“I don’tknowthe Gods. But it is my opinion” – posted at Sept 6th 2009 at 2:58 pm
So Deepak, initially you were sure that ur Gods were angry. And now you do not know about the Gods. So which one should I take and which one should I discard? You need to have at least some consistancy. So what is ur final opinion, Deepak? Did Gods kill him because he outsourced luddos to christians?
I believe it is small mindedness to say that Gods will be angry if some luddos were prepared by christians.
“Wrong interpretation. I was gleeful when YSR died because such a traitor who swindledthe publicand tried to play withthesentimentsof Hindus deserved todiesuch a horrible death.”
What wrong interpretation? Can u pls clarify?
I presume that you have understood the silliness saying that hindus of ur ilk do not want to use ‘christian luddoos’ in the temple as prasadam is similar to muslims not buying christian pork, though you did not mention anything about it. Another example of small mindedness – ie not admitting mistake.
Yet another example of small mindedness is saying seeing everyting with the tint of religion and calling pork sold by christians as christian port and luddos prepared by christians as christian luddos.
The classic example of small mindedness is this:
Quoting from ‘about page’ in ur response to Ramesh Nair posted at Sept 30th, 2008 at 3:34 am
“Akhand Hindu Vishwa is nothing but Hindu internatioanlism.
Hindu Internatioalism is not market globalisation. It is nothing but Vasudaiva Kutumbakam — The World is one Family.
It actually was until the Semitic religons with its angry zeaous Gods made it a perennial clash between “Us” and “Them”. They created the other with the Zealous Gods.
Hinduism is very broad. It accepts the multi-dimensional ways to Truth. Ekam Sat Vipra Bahuda Vadami.”
While proclaiming Vasudaiva Kudumbakam, u resrot to meannes such as calling luddos christian luddos and say that ‘Gods’ will kill someone if he make arrangements to supply christian luddos in temples?
When will you publish your photo without the moustache? Also remember to replace the photos of Swami Vivekananda and Chandrashekar Azad with that of Togadia and Naramedha Modi.
Actually a photo of Osama Bin Laden will also be suitable. I am sure if you were born in a ‘muslim family’ and had the same kind of upbringing, instead of in a ‘Hndu family’, he would have been ur hero. !!
“ Islam is a medieval belief system where the non-believer should either be killed or converted. Go, ask your Mullah and readthe Koran.
If I am lying, I amprepared to be stoned to death according to your Shariah.”
As I mentioned earlier, when you can get rid of your duplicity, hypocrisy and really understand the belief system you think you are part of, and showing that in ur behaviour, in your words, in ur interactions with other and in your work, then we will discuss about other religions. You have not grasped – of course u can regurgitate concepts but that is not what i meant – your own religion or Dharma, as exemplified by ur post about vasudaiva kudumbakam quoted above . Then what is the point of discussing about others? Definitely, u will not be able to understand it. Ur statements about islam and christianity shows that incapability. So we will discuss these matters later, when you are grown up and mature enough!
September 7th, 2009 at 8:23 am
@ so-called Najeeb,
Youarenot a Muslim. You are a pseudosecularist. Post with your real name.
Get real, yaar.
September 7th, 2009 at 8:24 am
@ Manichandran,
Hinduism isnot a religon.It is a way of life.
September 7th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Deepak,
“Youarenot a Muslim. You are a pseudosecularist. Post with your real name.”
The matter we were discussing was not if i am a muslim or not. And did i ever claim to be one ?Then why do u state that as if u are uncovering a very great hitherto unknow truth? A trick of small minded people to divert the focus, when they are lost.
Ur small mind is evident in this posting too. In ur reply to Ramesh you said “It actually was until the Semitic religons with its angry zeaous Gods made it a perennial clash between “Us” and “Them”. They created the other with the Zealous Gods.”
You claim it is semitic religions that created Us and Them classification, But you continue to do the same, sticking labels on all kinds of people, like muslims, psecs and dont know what. Even laddus are divided. Like our luddos (hindu luddos) and their luddos (Christian luddos). Silly.
Another example is the refernce to the angry gods. You try to make it that semitic god is angry n zealous, while hindu gods are not. But you yourself said in this post that Gods were angry and killed YRS. Another example of small mindedness.
So when can we see ur photos without that moustache, dear?
September 7th, 2009 at 9:44 am
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marichandran Says: Why we have names like Kamat, Iyer,Kini,Sharma? Unquote
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marichandran Says: Hindu temples are open for gays, lesbs and brahmin pundits who prey on women.. But its not open for Dalits.. Thats Hinduism, a cult of brahminism.
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Deepak Kamat replies:
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How much has the Church paid you to divideHindu society?
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Deepak, did u mean that it is christians who give the term ‘Kamat’ in ur name? If it is not, why do you blame christians? Not able to take responsibility and initiate corrective action but blame ‘others’ for their own mistakes is a trait of small mind.
Furthermore, is it not small mindedness to carry the word ‘Kamat’ in ur name while preaching about Vasudai……?
So when are you going to publish ur new photos?
September 7th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
@ So-calledNajeeb,
I am proud of my Brahmin tradition.
A brahmin is describedthus in Shantiparvah: A person who is righteous, compassionate, virtuous and is dedicated to nobility.
September 7th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
@ so-called Najeeb,
Angry Gods are just a metaphor. I am an agnostic.
September 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/7785.html
Muslims desecrate three Ganesh Idols & there have been attacks on Hindus at many places in Miraj (Dist. Sangali).
Reason for Riot is the scene erected which depicts the slaying of Afzhal Khan.
Muslims attacked the Police with sticks & stones.
The Police arrested the Shiv Sena & other Pro-Hindu leaders stating the reason as being violation of the ‘Code of conduct’.
One Tata Sumo of the Police, one Tata Indica of a citizen & another four wheeler were damaged by the rioting Muslims.
The Police threatened Hindus who were not ready for Ganesh Idol Immersion due to Idol desecration.
Muslim youth hoisted their Green flag on the top of SP (Superintendent of Police) Krushna Prakash’s van and he did nothing and on the other hand Krushna Prakash beat Hindu youth mercilessly and even beat Hindu women in their homes upon the false complaint from Muslim youth.
SP Krushna Prakash folded his hands before Muslims to keep them quite. The same SP had mercilessly beaten Pujya Sambhajirao Bhide Guruji, founder, ‘Shivpratishthan’ and the activist of ‘Shivpratisthan’ while they were protesting against the anti-Hindu movie Jodha-Akbar in Sangali. http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/3815.html
Muslims threw beef near a Hanuman Temple. Thus enraged Hindus attacked a few mosques.
Police arrested MLA Mr. Chandrakantdada Patil, Suresh Khade, ex-MLA Sambhajirao Pawar, Deputy Mayor Mr. Shekhar Inamdar, District chief of Shivsena, many Shivsainiks and Hindu youths.
‘Bandh’ in Sangali continued even on the 2nd day.
All Hindus including Hindu women were silently taking out a protest march but the Police stopped them and started beating them mercilessly. Even women were not spared.
Ganesh Mandals refused to immerse Idols until the scene of Afzhal Khan’s killing was erected again.
Muslim ladies in the surrounding areas left their homes one day prior to the riots.
The Police arrested four Hindus and mercilessly beat those who were stoning the Hotel and at the same time they just arrest the Muslim coming out from the Hotel with a ‘Koyta’ (a type of heavy knife used to break coconuts)
Dear Hindus,
Now the Maharashtra elections are coming up in October. Do remember these sins of the Anti-Hindu Congress on Hindus and decide to whom you wish to give your valuable votes.
September 7th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
You really amuse me. You state something and then when it is proved pointless and silly, u switch another arguement. Once that is also proved silly and foolish, you again switch and bring yet another irrelevent points.
“”A brahmin is describedthus in Shantiparvah: A person who is righteous, compassionate, virtuous and is dedicated to nobility.”
Again, u really amuse me. What is important now is not what is written somewhere by somewhen. The question is if u r able to practise any othe qualities mentioned in that definition. Let us see.
righteous – are you so? Pretty clear you are not – no need of example
Compassionate – are u? if so, at least you would have kep mum, when a person dies, if u have nothing good to say
dedicated to nobility – Hahaha, do i need to cite examples? u said that ‘Italian bitch’ and confirmed it again.
My question is this: what is the point of learning all these concepts, if u cant practice any of it in ur own life?
Another glaring point from ur this posting is that marichandran is correct. The hindu society is divided and it is not christians who did that.
And according to ur quote, it is not other Hindus who possesses all those qualities, right? It is only Brahmins. What about other Hindus who cant claim to be Brahmins? Are they too “righteous, compassionate, virtuous and is dedicated to nobility” ? If they are too so, why Shantiparvah does not say Hindus, instead of Brahmins?
You say are proud of ur Brahmin tradition. Why not just be proud of ur Hindu tradition, which will include all those poor souls who are called avarna for centuries? Is it christians who made u to be proud of ur “brahmin” tradition instead of ur Hindu tradition?
Now u claim you are an agnostic. Good. As I understand agnostic is not sure of the existance of God. Then how can you say Gods are angry, especially when you are supposed to be not sure its existance.
And what do u mean by that it was a metaphor? According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor “metaphor is a figure of speech concisely comparing two things, saying that one is the other” So what is it that you are comparing when you said that statement of Gods getting angry? What does that symbolise? Remember you are supposed to be an agnostic.
And ur email id is given as deepakastrologer. Since when agnostics started to practise astrology? Can you enlighten us by giving some other famous names of agnostics who are also astrologers?
Hey you have not answered my question. When r u going to publish ur new photo? If you are not ready to shave ur full moustache, shaving half of it would suffice. U can choose which side u want to! I will not indicate. !!
September 7th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Deepak is a coward… He is unable to answer me right from my first comment.
People dont be decieved by his lies.
The real name of Andhra CM is
Dr. Yeduguri Sandinti Rajasekhara Reddy.
September 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Your quote from an electronic media:
“Muslims attacked the Police with sticks & stones.
The Police arrested the Shiv Sena & other Pro-Hindu leaders stating the reason as being violation of the ‘Code of conduct’.”
Muslims attacked police and police in turn arrested shiv sena and other pro-Hindu leaders. And you are writing a book titled “Fascist trends in Indian media”
Should I laugh or cry?
September 7th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
YSR was a converted christist beyond doubt. He is probably the most corrupt chief minister India would ever see.
See personal life and religious beliefs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y._S._Rajasekhara_Reddy#cite_note-26
http://www.religiousintelligence.co.uk/news/?NewsID=4961
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/81808_114425_ENG_HTM.htm
http://www.hindu.com/2007/03/30/stories/2007033013040100.htm
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Hyderabad/Ive_1000_acres_more_says_CM/articleshow/843875.cms
September 7th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Deepak ji!!
you took the words which i wanted to inform the world..
the blood suckers Mrs. Sonia , Rahul and YSR main agenda to demolish hinduism in next 5 years. either by insulting our GODS or conversions. They have targetted Balaji as he is the rishest GOD on the earth (He has crossed Vatican Pope long back) which was not barable.
September 7th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
AJITH (Comment 76)
Dr. Yeduguri Sandinti Rajasekhara Reddy.
At the end of the day he was a cunning Xtian trying to loot Tirupathi and destroy it under the instigation of POPE. Don’t deny the fact that he went on pilgrimage to Bethlehem and then met POPE after wining elections this May.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Ishrat Jahan was killed in fake encounter in Gujarat”
AHMEDABAD: In yet another major setback to the Narendra Modi government in Gujarat, Ahmedabad metropolitan magistrate S.P. Tamang, has ruled that the incident in which Ishrat Jahan and three others were killed in June, 2004, was yet another case of “fake encounter.”
In his 243-page hand written report on the encounter, Mr. Tamang has named the then “encounter specialist” of the Gujarat police, D.G. Vanzara, and others as accused in the “cold blooded murder” of the teenaged girl and three others.
Mr. Vanzara and several other policemen are already in jail in connection with the Sohrabuddin case which the State government confessed before the Supreme Court was a case of “fake encounter.”
A special three-member team of top police officers of the State appointed by the Gujarat High Court for a fresh investigation into the Ishrat Jahan encounter is seized of the matter.
Claiming that Ishrat and three others were killed in fake encounter by the police officers for their personal interests, get promotions and gain appreciations from the Chief Minister, Mr Tamang appended a list of top police officers running into about two pages who he held responsible for the fake encounter. Besides Mr Vanzara and his then deputy in the Crime Branch police, N. K. Amin, who along with Mr Vanzara was also arrested in the Sohrabuddin fake encounter case, the list includes the then Ahmedabad police commissioner, K. R. Kaushik, the then chief of the Crime Branch, P. P. Pandey, another alleged encounter specialist Tarun Barot and a host of other senior police officers.
Mr Tamang’s report said the Crime Branch police “kidnapped” Ishrat and three others from Mumbai on June 12 and brought them to Ahmedabad. The four were killed on the night of June 14 in police custody, but the police claimed that an “encounter” took place on the morning of June 15 near Kotarpur water works on the outskirts of Ahmedabad. The rigor mortis that had set in clearly indicated that Ishrat died between 11 p.m. and 12 midnight the previous night and the police apparently pumped bullets into her body to substantiate the encounter theory.
It said the explosives, rifles, and other weapons allegedly found in their car were all “planted” by the police after the encounter.
The police had then claimed that Ishrat, a resident of Mumbra near Mumbai, and three others — Javed Sheikh, a convert son of Gopinath Pillai of Kerala and two Pakistani citizens Amzad Ali Rana and Jishan Jauhar — were connected with Pakistan-based terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba, and were coming to Gujarat to assassinate Mr. Modi to avenge the 2002 communal riots.
http://www.hindu.com/2009/09/08/stories/2009090850070100.htm
September 8th, 2009 at 11:30 am
@ so-called Najeeb,
So you quote the pseudosecular media to denigrate Hinduism.
That is exactly the reason why I wrote “Fascist Trends in Indian Media”
Indian Media is anti-Hindu.
It is obvious to anyone with a little common sense.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Sangli, Maharashtra: Hindus under attack during Ganesh visar
http://vhpsampark.org/index.php/Jihad-Watch/miraj-sangali-muslims-desecrate-three-ganesh-idolshindus-and-police-attacked.html
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoopSdiqipo&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40a4m3REhM&feature=player_embedded
September 8th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Hi Deepak,
Your logic is twisted, Deepak.
How could under Naramedha Modi’s governance police officers go and kill innocents become denigration of Hinduism? Is it not supporting such criminal crooks the denigration of Hinduim?
And what did Indian media do in this case to qualify them as anti-Hindu? It just reported what a metropolitan magistrate said. How could reporting what a magistrate said be used as an example of fascits trends in Indian media? May be you should write something like fascist trend in Indian Judiciary.
Hey Deepak, when r u going to visit the barber shop?
September 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Deepak seems to have never heared of the incidents like bhagalpur , bombay , gujrat riots , or u dont feel like discussing it right ? u think the killings of muslims in those riots invoked with full support of police must be a fabrication by anti-hindu media too ?
think about doing something productive for the country , rather than trying to spread hatred among indians.
Best wishes
September 8th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
@ So-called Indian friend,
Riots are so common. If you go to the roots of it, there is Islamic terrorism. Not a new issue.
It has its roots in the Satanic verses of Quran: Slay the idolators wherever you find them.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
@ Najeeb,
Don’t expect meto be naive. Even judges can be bribed.
hey Najeeb, what about your sleeper cell. Have they been able to locateme.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
@ SO-called Najeeb,
Your logic is unmistakably pseudosecular. You are not a Muslim. I can smell a Muslim when he writes.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
YSR is dead. But there are leaders who are alive but dead and engaged in fighting at the fag end of their life. What is the curse which has took off their sheen?
Deepak, I like your articles, but your comments and replies won’t sustain. It simply starts going wayward and you lose the focus.
Just think 10 times before opening any topic, especially religious,it is like a nuclear reactor. Dangerous but very useful only under controlled condition. You initiate the things but later on it becomes a Kite without any control.
We are the people from land where Great gurus engaged and defeated their opponents with great oratory skills without using any abusive words. Read Shankaracharya, vivekananda and you will know but some time you get carried away and the language turns very foul, resulting in others emulating the same. If you have dreams of leading a good team in future learn good patience, accept critisism, polish your language and acquire wisdom.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Hi Sheshu,
you wrote
”
Deepak ji!!
you took the words which i wanted to inform the world..
the blood suckers Mrs. Sonia , Rahul and YSR main agenda to demolish hinduism in next 5 years. either by insulting our GODS or conversions. They have targetted Balaji as he is the rishest GOD on the earth (He has crossed Vatican Pope long back) which was not barable.”
It shows only your fear. Even though Muslims attacked and ruled India for almost thousand years, the evolution of religions like Buddhism, Jainism and imported religion chrisitianity couldn’t wipe off Hinduism. Better it is right time for Hinduism to do the introspection and come under one umbrella.
For your information there is nothing called rich and poor god, it is only the place of worship.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Hello Rocky,
i dont want to support or condemn your ideas.. or thought process..
yes you are right 1000 years of muslim attacks and 300 years of english men rule didnt wipe off hinduism . but can you say that they have not impacted it ?
secondly it is sure that the people who are ruling in central, state and other media channels are seriously working on jevoha project and they are succeeded in 4th phase means managing to have a church in each street.. did we stop them doing that ?
its not fear its the fact which is happening.. frankly you tell me any time able to stop any person from conversion ? can we manage to show in the media about the issues hindus are facing ? dont you think these are not the threats which we are facing ?
atleast tell me can we stop CM , TTD members from politising our own LORD ..
please answer your questions ..
September 8th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Deepak
agreed , riots are common & so is killings of muslims on those very incidents but does not mean it is anyway a lesser a crime compared to terrorism .
But still I believe those icidents does not mean all hindus are rioters .
u said “…… If you go to the roots of it, there is Islamic terrorism….”
About it roots , r u talking about Ramayan & mahabharat ? bcos I think these are much more ancient & only about wars & voilenece & blood sheds (pls i am not saying it was wrong or right…. ).
best wishes
September 8th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
@ so called Najeeb,
You asked “And what did Indian media do in this case to qualify them as anti-Hindu? ”. The media reported this so called JOLT to Modi ji again n again n again. But, they did not find it necessary to telecast the video of muslims in Miraj (Maharashtra) throwing stones at the Ganesh Idols and bringing down the Ganesh Pandals. The muslims there even climbed up on the police van and waived the green flag with crescent mark. Anti-Hindu Media found this incident to be worth only a scroll item at the bottom of the screen.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
@rocky 89
It is not an uncalled for fear. we have lost vast lands to islam’s aggression. hope your geography sees pakistan and bangladesh. Converted christians are asking for Christistan in the north eastern states. how much more of India you want to be lost?
September 8th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Dear INDIAN_FRIEND,
It can only be out of ignorance that one sees Ramayana and MahaBharat as war stories. Ramayana is about Maryada Purushottam Bhagavan Shri Raam, his rule, his people, his kingdom and his principles. There is a lot more in Ramayana than the war with Raavana which only was noticed by you. In the Mahabharat epic the war was only for a period of 18 days!
Roots of riots: have you forgotten that 56 innocent Hindus, men, women and children were locked inside the coach of a train, kerosine poured into the coach, and those people were burnt alive before the start of the 2002 riots in some parts of Gujarat?
September 9th, 2009 at 12:54 am
Deepkji, you became mad otherwise you would not have made such remarks against YSR’s death. What your sanghi leaders & your so-called hinduism had given to the people of india except centuries of oppression.YSR was loved by not only andhra people but also the people of india except the enemies of india, sanghis. Mother India will produce a 1000 YSRs to fight the enemies & exploiters of India, THE RSS.
September 9th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Rocky writes “For your information there is nothing called rich and poor god, it is only the place of worship.”
Thanks for some word of sanity
September 9th, 2009 at 6:56 am
Deepak,
“Don’t expect meto be naive. Even judges can be bribed.”
You are naive, that is the fact. It is the same police officer who was convicted in anothe fake encounter is accused in this case as well. And if you think, everycase where ‘hindus’ are accused is a case of bribery, then there is something wrong in ur thinking, really.
And you are absolutely naive to think that defending such criminals is defending Hinduism. Better things are expected from ‘defenders’ of Hinduism, you know.
Deepak, you will do good to urself if you heed to the advice of Rocky who said “We are the people from land where Great gurus engaged and defeated their opponents with great oratory skills without using any abusive words. Read Shankaracharya, vivekananda and you will know but some time you get carried away and the language turns very foul, resulting in others emulating the same. If you have dreams of leading a good team in future learn good patience, accept critisism, polish your language and acquire wisdom.”
And pls try to refrain from making such idiotic and irrelavant points such as “Your logic is unmistakably pseudosecular. You are not a Muslim. I can smell a Muslim when he writes.”
“It has its roots in the Satanic verses of Quran: Slay the idolators wherever you find them.”
I am not surprised when u make such comments, especially since you are not able to grasp such simple ideas as taqia. The disease is in the mind and is called hatred. And, I would not engage a discussion with you on this. First you need to show that you can realise the finess of the belief system you think you believe in, in ur life. Then we can discuss it.
“hey Najeeb, what about your sleeper cell. Have they been able to locateme.”
I dont run sleeper cells, let alone trying to locate you.
It is you, without anybody asking, who committed immaturely that you will shave your moustache if u are proved small minded. I have mentioned many instances where i think you are. And you were not able to refute them or have not refuted so far.
So it is only natural for me to remind you, as long as you dont retract that shaving thing, to keep your own words.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Ishrat Jahan encounter: Shabnam Hashmi asks Manmohan Singh to apologize
By Shabnam Hashmi
An Open Letter to Hon’ble Prime Minister
Dear Dr Manmohan Singh.
I had written a small article in The Hindustan Times in June 2004. It was called ‘Come Shoot Me: I am a Terrorist’. It was to express my anguish on Ishrat Jahan’s killing in Gujarat.
The Magisterial Enquiry, which is mandatory in every encounter case (and which was never done in the Batla House encounter) has finally termed it Ishrat jahan’s killing as a fake encounter yesterday in a metropolitan court. It is not a matter of surprise for us as we knew that she was killed in cold blood. Perhaps you will also agree that such things are happening and happened in Gujarat under Modi. But I am not writing to talk about how bad Modi is.
I am writing this to ask you a small favour.
I know you have absolutely hectic schedules and thousands of issues to handle so I am putting down here the facts, gathered from various media reports.
On June 15, 2003, the Ahmedabad city crime branch, then headed by the now jailed IPS officer D G Vanzara, shot four young people –Ishrat Jahan, Javed Shaikh alias Pranesh Pillai, Amjad Ali Rana and Jisan Johar. It was propagated that these four young people were alleged Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) operatives who were allegedly on mission to kill chief minister Narendra Modi.
Ishrat, was a 19-year old student of Khalsa College in Mumbra, a Mumbai suburb.
Ishrat’s mother filed a petition in the high court in 2004 demanding death compensation and a CBI probe. Ishrat Jahan’s mother’s Petition alleged that it was a fake encounter as one of the many that the present government regime in Gujarat headed by Narendra Modi had done to achieve Political Mileage to publicly create panic and sympathy that the Chief Minister was sought to be assassinated.
The crime branch carried out the operation and the same agency conducted investigation.
When the petition was heard by Justice KS Jhaveri , he immediately proposed, almost on line taken by the Supreme Court in the infamous Sohrabuddin fake encounter case, for which Vanzara was jailed along with other policemen, that a five-member team – all of the rank of additional DGP – should probe this case.
The encounter was done by the infamous D. G. Vanzara and his team who are presently arrested under Orders of the Hon’ble Supreme Court in the case of fake encounter of Sohrabuddin and his wife Kausarbi. Sohrabuddin’s encounter has been admitted by the state to be fake and recently on 11/08/2008, they have agreed to deposit an amount of Rs. 10.00 Lakhs as interim ex-gratia compensation for being paid to the Kith and Kin of the two.
There are allegedly 28 encounters which were fake and have been covered up.
In Ishrat Jahan’s matter the CBI was impleaded as a Party and it took a stand that if the Court so orders they are willing to carry out fresh investigations and unearth the truth. Such stand triggered panic with the State Government and it seems even with some Officers of Central Home Ministry. After UPA came to power some tainted CBI officers placed in Gujarat during the NDA with questionable track record were removed after a lot of pressure and almost two years but they soon found plush positions in Delhi under UPA regime.
To our dismay we realized last month through the media reports that the Ministry of Home Affairs in an affidavit stated that Ishrat, Javed and two others Jisan Johar and Amjad Ali Rana were all operatives of Pakistan-based terror group Lashkar-e-Toiba.
Maintaining that the four were terrorists, the Union government told the high court, “No proposal for CBI investigation is under consideration of the Centre nor does it consider the present case fit for CBI probe.”
Moreover, the Centre claimed that there is no question of independent inquiry, as an additional DGP (CID & Intelligence) had carried out an independent probe into the incident and the officer is neither working with crime branch nor is he a subordinate to the crime branch, which carried out the operation and later investigated the case itself.”
If you remember Hon’ble prime Minister when I met you regarding the Package for the Gujarat 2002 victims along with other activists from Gujarat I had jokingly said, “The news that UPA has replaced NDA at the centre has not reached your Home Ministry as yet’. I had said this precisely in the connection of how the tainted officers promoted by the BJP were still being pampered under the UPA.
The reason behind filing of the Affidavit by the Central Government was to dissuade the Court from appointing a strong S I T and give a message that even the Central Government had approved the act of fake encounter. But for the magisterial enquiry the Central Home Ministry had left no stone unturned to prove that Ishrat deserved to be killed.
The logic used always is what will happen to the morale of the officers. My question is what happens to the morale of the officers when they torture innocent young people, when they kill them, when they illegally detain them, beat them. What happens to their morale then? Do they just go home and sleep?
Why don’t we as nation stop playing the farce of being a secular nation and why don’t we remove the article from the constitution which says all citizens are equal?
The affidavit filed by the Home Ministry is a proof of the fact that in Ishrat Jahan’s fake encounter case UPA has connived with the Gujarat government in a blatantly communal manner. With 3 days to go before assembly bye election in 7 seats in Gujarat 5 more innocent boys have been picked up in Baroda and declared’ terrorists’.
I do not know if this letter will be also lost on the way and find itself in a dustbin as I have never received any acknowledgment from your office, so I will be forced to circulate it to others to lodge a strong protest against this blatant connivance of the Home Ministry with the Gujarat government.
My request to you is that if your government has any political will then please ask your home ministry to tender a public apology for filing the affidavit against the innocent girl who was so brutally murdered. It requires some courage and conviction.
You are fond of poetry.
Faiz ke chand lines apki nazar kar rahi hoon:
Tujh ko kitnon ka lahoo chahiye ae arz-i-watan, Jo tiray arz-i-berang ko gulnaar karein
Kitni aahon se kaleja tira thanda hoga, Kitne aansoo tiray sehraon ko gulzaar karein
(The blood of how many do you need O motherland;That which will brighten your colourless earth;
How many sighs will soothe your heart; How many tears will cause your deserts to bloom.)
Sincerely Yours,
Shabnam Hashmi
Member, National Integration Council
September 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am
@ So-called Najeeb and other pseudosecularists in the forum,
I don’t take pseudosecularist propagandaseriously.
However,it is a fact that both Koran and the Bible instigate the believers to convert and impose their faith on others.
Thatis the root oftheproblem.
Hinduismrespectsprivate space. Thatis why I m a Hindu.
Jai Hind.
September 9th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
YSR’s(samuel Reddy’s) govt. was most SECULAR govt.!
YSR was a most SECULAR person!
http://www.sanghparivar.org/forum/ysrs-samuel-reddy-s-govt-was-the-most-secular-govt-ever-0
September 9th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
“YSR was a most SECULAR person!”
Same polemic. Nothing different from our Deepak’s.
September 9th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
To DeshBakhta
I completely agree with u I am not saying that the blood shed & killings in Ramayan & Mahabharat was without reason , there are times when u have to fight to defend your values & faith.
But this was in response to Deepak’s misinformed comments about verses in koran asking the believers to fight when in war, rather than being a coward & accepting injustice for saving ur own life.
Not standing against opression or not fighting the opressor just to save ur ownself is a sin.
Best wishes
September 9th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
@ Deepak
Your debating skills need improvement.
You do have the potential but not let your hatred consume you.
I follow these guidelines and they have always helped
Question Everything, Learn Something, Answer Nothing
But you must understand that everyone goes through this phase.
There was a time when I used to abuse and foul mouth people
whom I did not agree with but I grew up quickly.
You decide how long you will take to come out of this phase.
But grow you must.
For some Intellectual Stimulation I suggest you read this article.
Analysing the problem of Hindu-Muslim unity in the light of Sri Aurobindo’s thought.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:24 am
“But you must understand that everyone goes through this phase.
You decide how long you will take to come out of this phase.
But grow you must.”
Rightly spoken.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
I am reading these articles from many days. my English is poor so I could not reply on these. I am observing that the most of the people are writing against Deepak. But I am feeling that Deepak is not wrong. YSR was anti Hindu.he was trying to destroy a world famous Hindu temple, not a masjid and not a church. why? because he was anti Hindu. everybody knows about the misuse of funds by the Andra Govt which came from Hindu devotees, not from muslims and not from cristians. everybody knows that what is going on in Thirupathi. whether the Andra govt tried to improve the temple or not. if ysr is brave or great he would have tried to interfere in any big masjid or church which gives more income. but he enjoyed only by using Hindu devotees money. why?
September 10th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
To raju mogaveera
u said “ …. my english poor so I could not reply on these……. ”
Brother
ur english is not poor at all in fact I find it is good . just to let u know that I had to reply you.
Though I might not agree with the point u making but thats different thing.
Best Wishes
September 10th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
raju mogaveera Says: September 10th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
I am reading these articles from many days. my English is poor so I could not reply on these. I am observing that the most of the people are writing against Deepak. But I am feeling that Deepak is not wrong. YSR was anti Hind
great your massage is simple good easy and strong point, English is just language only, english is not knowledge. learning smuskritham & tamil is treasure which has knowledge.
September 10th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
@najeeb 104
Let me tell you who should grow up. Some people believing in some faith climbed atop a police van and waived the green flag with crescent mark at Miraj in Maharashtra. They then went vandalised the nearby Ganesh pandaals. Well, they did not stop there. They threw stones and whatever had fallen on the road at the Ganesha idol which the Hindus worship. They stamped and danced on the fallen pandaal material. This beautiful Nation of ours needs these kind of people to grow up and not Deepak!
Watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-J0mD8naAg
September 11th, 2009 at 7:13 am
Dear Deshbhakta,
Point noted and fully agree with you. Whoever did such things, no doubt need to grow up. I have never said they do not need to. They too need to understand and grow up,
Whoever kill other people in the name of religion in which they were happen to be born, should stop foolishness and need to grow up. Whoever uses religious symbold to humiliate others, uses religion to instigate killing and other inhumanly acts should be punished and they need to grow up.
Why I said Deepak needs to grow up is becoz in my opinion he is using his writing skills in the wrong way. He, in the name of defending Hindusim, is defending wrong people and propogating wrong things. To me defenders of any faith should exempliy the finess of their religion in their act, words, in their interaction with others. They should relaise the essential truth of the religion in which they believe, which incidently is the same in all the religions, in their life and manifest it in their life. To name a few of such people from Hinduism is Paramahamsa Yogannda, Sree Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami Vivekananda, Sri Aurabindo, Sree Narayana Guru et al
And that does not mean you cant critise any other religion. We can but that must be done to understand and to make undertsand. Not for political milage.
September 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Please watch this video where muslim fanatics march with cow head and insulting Hindus. It would be good if anyone who knows Malay language can translate this. Please write letters, protest in front of Malaysian Embassy Look at this video and police is just watching. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=ytAkNMyGd1M&feature=related What happens when you condemn this even with a peaceful protest in Malaysia. This is what happened. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=3xF9rJHbHjM&eurl=http%3A% 2F%2Fwww% 2Emakkal% 2Eorg%2F&feature=player_ embedded – Arrested for candlelight march Click here to here the latest interview from Waytha Moorthyji on whats going on in Malaysia. While he was giving interview, his wife and sisters have been arrested by pro islamic Malay government.This can happen to anyone who lives in a muslim majority country. So please do show support and solidarity. http://sdfglobal. org/images/ audios/Sep% 205%202009% 20II.mp3 – Latest Interview Also watch complete temple demolition video here. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=ciQ8P3heHbA&feature=PlayList&p=CDF2F59A595624BA&playnext=1&playnext_from= PL&index=1
September 11th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
@ All those criticising mywriting skills,
I am not a writer. I just want to communicate and express myself. I am doing it just fine.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
@Najeeb,
“defenders of any faith should exempliy the finess of their religion in their act, words, in their interaction with others”
I do not think it is possible to convince Hitler of Gandhian/Hindu values of Ahimsa. In Hindi it is said “Samajdaar ko ishaara hi kaafi hai.”
Further, One cannot defend with soft power his religion from the kind of people who threw stones at the Ganesha idol.
There had been more than 450 (religious) riots from 1970 to 2002 in the state of Gujarat. After the riots in Feb/Mar 2002, no riots have been reported from the state till today. May be some lesson was taught in a manner the culprits could understand.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Your god Krishna and Rama are aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash
September 12th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Dear Sir,
Really your statement if very very good and it is an eye opener for the4Christial community. Somay time4s I may also felt these things in my mind. THANK YOU>
September 13th, 2009 at 10:31 am
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September 13th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Deepak Kamat Says:
September 7th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
@ So-calledNajeeb,
I am proud of my Brahmin tradition.
A brahmin is describedthus in Shantiparvah: A person who is righteous, compassionate, virtuous and is dedicated to nobility.
it is the brahmins who spoiled the hinduism for their selfish reasons. Having lost the political grips and in this reservation era, they still wanna get hold the varna grip over the untouchable hindus, and the tool used is hinduism. Kamat is one among them.
Proud of being a brahmin.. huh.. A community and a wrong ideology which has made 800 million hindus feel low and live in lower strata. If not for the invation and reformation of Moguls and Brits, india would have been so pathetic and underdeveloped with the oppressive brahmins.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
@ so-called Shridhar Gowda,
It was the Christian missionaries who engineered the Brahmin-Dalit divide to split Hindu society.
Till then, Brahmins were respected all over India.
You have swallowed missionary poison. I have not. That is why I am proud of my brahmin heritage who dedicated themselves to uplift humanity.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Deepak Kamat Says:
September 13th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
“”"@ so-called Shridhar Gowda,It was the Christian missionaries who engineered the Brahmin-Dalit divide to split Hindu society.Till then, Brahmins were respected all over India.”"
Deepak you dont need to give me an adjective to call me as ‘So Called Gowda’.. Im a Gowdaru from cauvery belt. Dont blame christian missionaries, if not for them, we may not have been aware of the brahminic oppressions and denial of educational right to Sudras.
And why one would expect to say Brahmins were respected all over india before British.. Respect for Brahmin.. For what? Why not Brahmins respects Gowdas and fall on our feet.. The god you have is also my god..
Stop all your Konkani Brahmin tricks. You brahmins are kicked out, and you cant any more innocent hindus and use them as pawns for your brahminic tricks.
Hope you wont delete this post and face it in public with your point of view..
Sridhara Gowdaru
September 13th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Deepak Kamat @ “You have swallowed missionary poison. I have not. That is why I am proud of my brahmin heritage who dedicated themselves to uplift humanity”"
Dont blame on the christian missionaries you Brahmmman. You konkani kinis,Kamats and shenoys have denied educational right to us… My father studied in mysore missionary school and became an IAS officer, but , his all batch mate brahmins who studied in mangalore used to look him down as a gowda, and those brahmins only became clerks.
You are going to uplift humanity… Krishna..rama… Brahmin here is talking about Humanity.. the one who has kept 80Crore hindus as low living in the name of Brahminic varna.. Stop using hinduism here , as your brahminic fuel.
May be, you talk about Brahminism, but please dont use hinduism here, deepak.
Arrtha madu kooli… Paattre..
September 13th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Sridhara “christian’ Gowda,
http://indowave.tripod.com/NAMES.html
Just because of using gowda or gowdare name does not mean you are a Hindu or a gowda Hindu. Bloody missionary Christians like you are millions now keeping Hindu names to fool masses. This is an old trick. Using tricks like Brahmninism, Dravidism among Hinduism is another divide and convert ploy. Get out of here, don’t peddle lies coming from padres that was taught at sunday church!
Proof of your kind
http://indowave.tripod.com/NAMES.html
September 13th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
1. ONGOING GENOCIDES
2. RECENT GENOCIDES
2000 YEARS of HELL on EARTH
September 13th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
VoP,
You dont need to authenticate my Gowdaru identity. Please dont drag the missionaries to cover up those Brahmins like Kamats.
These fellows , ie,,Brahmins even licked the arse of British and missionaries for their selfish things. If you are also a Brahmin, sorry, I cant help it.
Please you brahmins leave the hinduism and have your own version of Brahminic’ism and your rituals, pitrus and pindams.
But dont fool us anymore.. You guys are no more in politics.. No brahmin can become a C.M in Karnataka any more. And no one is going to buy your brahmic supremacy any more. You are the traitors of our religion.
September 14th, 2009 at 10:36 am
@ so-called Shridhar Gowda,
Your attempts to divide Hindu society by engineering a split between Brahmins and non-Brahmins is old.
Try something new.
Best of luck.
September 14th, 2009 at 10:37 am
@ All pseudosecularists questioning Brahmin patriotism,
70 percent of the freedom fighters executed by the British were Brahmins.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:04 am
DEEPAK says “”"@ so-called Shridhar Gowda,Your attempts to divide Hindu society by engineering a split between Brahmins and non-Brahmins is old.”
Who divided our Hindu community as Brahmin and Non Brahmin? Who practised varna? Please dont incite the innocent hindus inorder to make them as foot soldiers of brahminism, so that you can rule them,
“”70 percent of the freedom fighters executed by the British were Brahmins.”"
No one is questioning here the partiotism of Brahmins. I’m only doubting the crediblity of Brahmins in making every Indians grow equally in education and jobs. Brahminic affection towards sudra hindus goes in thin air, when ‘reservations’ are dragged in.
Hindus and HInduism would be better without Brahmical system. Dismantle the brahminism
September 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
@sridhara gowda,
“Hindus and HInduism would be better without Brahmical system. Dismantle the brahminism”
i agree in toto what sridhar gowda wrote.
We dont need stupid doctrines to fool us anymore.
brahminism is the enemy of hinduism and not missionoris.
September 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Both Krishna Poojari and Shridara Gowda have the same IP address. This is a typical missionary propaaganda.
Dismantling Brahminism is like dismantling humanity. I am sorry to inform the pseudos that people of India still have a lot of respect for Brahmins despite bad press from the Christian media.
September 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Both Krishna Poojari and Shridara Gowda have the same IP address. This is a typical missionary propaaganda.
Dismantling Brahminism is like dismantling humanity. I am sorry to inform the pseudos that people of India still have a lot of respect for Brahmins despite bad press from the Christian media.
There are no takers for
September 14th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Why anti-Brahminism is as bad as anti-Dalitism?
Belgian historian Koenraad Elst described anti-Brahminism as the Indian equivalent of anti-semitism.
“Pope Gregory XV (1621-23) decreed that the missionaries could tolerate caste distinction among Christian converts; but by and large, caste remained an effective hurdle to the destruction of Hinduism through conversion. That is why the missionaries started attacking the institution of caste and in particular the brahmin caste. This propaganda has bloomed into a full-fledged anti-brahminism, the Indian equivalent of anti-Semitism.”
To understand the dynamics of anti-Brahminism, we will have to take a look at caste arithmetic, history and the social nature of Hindu society.
Census based on caste is banned in India since castes are not encouraged in public. The last census on caste was taken in the year 1931. At that time, brahmins comprised 4 percent of the population.
Many estimate that it may have shrunk given the hostile atmosphere in which Brahmins live. However, the percentage of SCs and STs and OBCs have been made available following the reservation scheme. The SCs, STs and OBCs together form 75 percent of Indian population as per data from Mandal Commission records.
Caste wise demographics:
Scheduled Caste 16 percent
Scheduled Tribe 7percent
Other Backward Caste 2 percent
Muslims 13 percent
Sikhs 2 percent
Chrisians 2 percent
Jains & Buddhists 1 percent
Brahmins 4 percent (as per 1931 census)
Others 3 or 4 percent
From this is obvious that KHAM (Kshatriya, Harijan, Adivasi and Muslim) combination would work out to more than 90 percent. So it is natural for the Congress and the secular parties to woo this combine by demonizing the Brahmins on the charges that lower castes have been exploited by Brahmins for centuries. This forms the central crux of the anti-brahmin argument. Besides it is very safe to be an anti-Brahmin since the Brahmins are docile and don’t hit back. Just imagine what would happen if other castes and other religions were targeted.
While there is no denying the Brahmin atrocities and the need for uplifting the Dalits, the other side of the coin has to be factored too. The effects of anti-Brahminism has been disastrous for the Bharathiya psyche. It is a gross distortion of history and it undermines Brahmin sacrifices in ensuring the nation’s continuity.
Remember, the Brahmins have played a stellar role in preserving India’s heritage which have been fully acknowledged by Swami Vivekananda and Gandhi. However, this contribution has not just been ignored but negated by our eminent left historians.
To understand the reason why Hindus survived the Islamic conquests we have to study the fall of Buddhism too. This is what B R Ambedkar wrote on the fall of Buddhism in India following Islamic invasion: “The Musalman invaders sacked the Buddhist Universities of Nalanda, Vikramshila, Jagaddala, Odantapuri to name only a few. They raised to the ground Buddhist monasteries with which the country was studded. The monks fled away in thousands to Nepal, Tibet and other places outside India. A very large number were killed outright by the Muslim commanders. How the Buddhist priesthood perished by the sword of the Muslim invaders has been recorded by the Muslim historians themselves. Summarizing the evidence relating to the slaughter of the Buddhist Monks perpetrated by the Musalman General in the course of his invasion of Bihar in 1197 AD, Mr. Vincent Smith says, “….Great quantities of plunder were obtained, and the slaughter of the ’shaven headed Brahmans’, that is to say the Buddhist monks, was so thoroughly completed, that when the victor sought for someone capable of explaining the contents of the books in the libraries of the monasteries, not a living man could be found who was able to read them. ‘It was discovered,’ we are told, ‘that the whole of that fortress and city was a college, and in the Hindi tongue they call a college Bihar.’ “Such was the slaughter of the Buddhist priesthood perpetrated by the Islamic invaders. The axe was struck at the very root. For by killing the Buddhist priesthood, Islam killed Buddhism. This was the greatest disaster that befell the religion of the Buddha in India….”
According to Arun Shourie, Hinduism survived largely because of Brahminism: He says: “For the Hindus, every Brahmin was a potential priest. No ordination was mandated. Neither anything else. Every household carried on rituals — oblations, recitation of particular mantras, pilgrimages, each Brahmin family made memorizing some Veda its very purpose…. By contrast, Buddhism had instituted ordination, particular training etc. for its priestly class. Thus, when the invaders massacred Brahmins, Hinduism continued. But when they massacred the Buddhist monks, the religion itself was killed.”
The priestly Brahmin class managed to preserve India’s spiritual traditions despite ethnic cleansing and genocides. This is not to undermine the contribution of other castes who had played their role by refusing to convert despite their low stature. It is high time that the Brahmin is seen for what he is rather than being demonized.
Social dimensions of Brahmin today: French journalist Francois Gautier says: Rampant anti-Brahmanism, first used by the Muslim invaders, then by the British colonialists and missionaries, is still in vogue at the hands of Nehruvians, Marxists, Indian Christians and politicians in search of the votes of Dalits and Muslims, which combined together make and unmake prime ministers.
Gautier had published an article in Rediff.com – Brahmins as Dalits of Today — stating that several young Brahmins were working in Sulab Toilets as toilet cleaners, sweepers et al (a job that is usually arrogated to the lower caste Dalits.)
Though Gautier had given this information to the Indian media, they started avoiding him, refused to publish it and some even criticized him as a “RSS stooge”. Certainly when editors, intellectuals and intelligentsia of the day bear anti-brahmin bias and refuse to look at reality, it is a tragedy of the society besides a slur on journalistic tradition which preaches objectivity. Remember, Brahmins are always projected as a fat, rich arrogant community. The selective amnesia of the media when it comes to Brahmin poverty is breathtaking. Is it not?
Sri Aurobindo wrote: ‘A Brahmin was a Brahmin only if he cultivated the spiritual temperament and acquired the spiritual training which alone would qualify him for the task.’
Says Gautier, “Thanks to the lingering influence of Nehruvianism, ‘Brahmins’ remain today a dirty word, even in the face of reality: that Dalits have considerably come up since 1947 in Indian society, that no nation in the world has done so much for its underprivileged (India had a Dalit President — did the US ever have a Black President?). But the intellectual elite of India, which never mentions these facts, continues to hide its face in the sand like an ostrich, refusing to see the reality.”
Dr Bindeshwar Pathak, the founder of the Sulabh Shauchalaya Movement remarks: ‘Society sustained the Brahmins and other upper castes earlier, who upheld the Hindu scriptures and Hindu culture. Today Hinduism is on the decline day-by-day. There is a lack of ancient knowledge. No political party has objected to reservation thanks to vote-bank politics. People have a very short memory. They have forgotten the contribution made by Brahmins to our society.’
And who says that Brahmins and other upper castes are anti-Dalits. Some of India’s top avatars, saints and gurus were of low caste and are still worshipped today by all upper castes. Valmiki, the composer of the Ramayana, was a fisherman; Ved Vyasa, the epic poet of the Mahabharata, which also contains the Bhagavad Gita, the Bible of Future Humanity, was the son of a fisherwoman; Krishna was from the shepherd’s caste. And are not today’s Amritanandamayi or Satya Sai Baba of low caste birth? Don’t they have millions of Indians, many of them from upper castes, bowing down to them?
Anti-Brahmanism has to be stopped! This inter-caste war, triggered by the politicians’ greed for votes, has to be defused.
Brahmins and Manu Smrithies: Manu Smrithies are the most effective tool used for Brahmin bashing. However, what is not pointed out is that Manu Smrithi has no validity in Hindu soceity. Manu Smriti is part of Samaja Dharma (which is like a constitution which was valid only during a certain period of time). Hindus have more faith in Sanatana Dharma (texts like Bhagavad Gita). According to several other scholars, the Manu Smrithies suffer from interpolation and cannot be relied upon. Most of the Hindus are ignorant about Manu Smrithies and tend to rely more upon classical texts like the Bhagavad Gita.
It is these alien intellectuals who have selected obscure passages from Manu Smrithies and are demonising a largely peaceful community. They do not point out other scriptures like the Gita where the Brahmin is described as a person in whom you find “truthfulness, generosity, absence of hatred, modesty, goodness and self-restraint.” Appreciating Brahmins is taboo in India.
What these intellectual worthies do not realise is that most of the Dalit reformers were Brahmins too. This only proves that brahmins are open to reforms and committed to justice.
A smritis, or code of conduct composed by sage Atri defines brahminhood very clearly.”By birth, every man is a Shudra (an ignorant person). Through various types of disciplines (samskaras), he becomes a dwija (twice born). Through the studies of scriptures, he becomes a vipra (or a scholar). Through realization of supreme spirit (brahmajnana), he becomes a brahmin.”
September 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
The way Mullah, Missionary, Marxist brigade seeks to divide Hindu society
The Mahabharata defines the varna qualities thus: “He in whom you find truthfulness, generosity, absence of hatred, modesty, goodness and self-restraint, is a brahmana. He who fulfills the duties of a knight, studies the scriptures, concentrates on acquisition and distribution of riches, is a kshatriya. He who loves cattle-breeding, agriculture and money, is honest and well-versed in scripture, is a vaishya. He who eats anything, practises any profession, ignores purity rules, and takes no interest in scriptures and rules of life, is a shudra.”
The higher the varna, the more rules of self-discipline are to be observed. Hence, a jati could collectively improve its status by adopting more demanding rules of conduct, e.g. vegetarianism.
Untouchability never existed in the Vedas: Untouchability is unknown in the Vedas, and therefore repudiated by neo-Vedic reformers like Dayanand Saraswati, Narayan Guru, Gandhiji and Savarkar. The 1950 constitution outlawed untouchability and sanctioned positive discrimination programs for the Scheduled Castes and Tribes. Lately, the Vishva Hindu Parishad has managed to get even the most traditionalist religious leaders on the anti-untouchability platform, so that they invite harijans to Vedic schools and train them as priests.
Despite this, the Mullah, Missionary, Marxist brigade raises a howl about Dalit atrocities for two reasons as they see it a convenient ploy to divide Hindu society as well as garner international funds. Recently, a Dalit body (obviously funded by the anti-Hindus) had tried to get casteism registered as apartheid in the UN.
What these worthies do not point out is that India’s poverty is largely a result of the colonial/Islamic rule and the plight of the Hindus irrespective of their caste was aggravated largely by the arrival of the invaders. It was these invaders who made a mess of the largely rich and peaceful nation called Bharatvarsh. As Swami Vivekananda rightly said: “The Mohammedans brought murder and slaughter in their train, but until their arrival peace prevailed.”
It must be remembered that the Brahmins of India never wielded arms. It was the Kshatriyas who wielded the political power. The Brahmins were the priestly class who survived on patronage. While, it is true that those in the lower end suffered due to domination by the upper caste, it must be pointed out that there were several other factors like Islamic rule and colonialism which led to the social and economic deprivation of the lower as well as higher end of the society. To pin all the blames for the defects of Hindu society on the upper caste needs a huge stretch of imagination, which the Indian media has in plenty. When it comes to conspiracy theory, the creative imagination of the leftists is beyond imagination.
Rejecting Manu Smrithi: Most of the secularists quote the Manu Smriti to embarrass the Hindus. These include scholars, historians and intellectuals of Left-Missionary persuasion. However Manu Smrithi has no validity in Hindu soceity. Manu Smriti is part of Samaja Dharma (which is like a constitution which was valid only during a certain period of time). Hindus have more faith in Sanatana Dharma (texts like Bhagavad Gita). According to several other scholars, the Manu Smrithies suffer from interpolation and cannot be relied upon. Most of the Hindus are ignorant about Manu Smrithies and tend to rely more upon classical texts like the Bhagavad Gita. Besides, Hinduism is self-reforming and corrects its defects as it happened through so many socio-religious-spiritual reformers down the ages. It goes without saying that attempts at Dalit reforms are on in the right earnest in Hindu society, although a lot remains to be done.
VHP on Manu Smrithi: This is what Ashok Singhal, the VHP President wrote: The “Manu Smriti” or the “Yagyavalkya Smriti” has no connection with Adi Manu or the Sage Yagyavalkya. The “Smritis” were written during the reign of Pushyamitra about 2200 years ago. There is no reference of such Smritis in the Mahabharata.
There are two portions in the Smritis – one is ‘Yama’ and the other is ‘Niyama’. ‘Yama’ consists of eternal values while the ‘Niyamas’ were the periodic governing laws or codes of conduct meant for running the affairs of the state of the then kings. There are more than three hundred Smritis. They have little to do with the eternal values of Dharma. These have been responsible for gross discrimination that is alien to our concept of ‘Ekaatmataa’ (Ekaatm Bhaava/Integralism) that is expounded in our ancient scriptures – the Shrutis (the four Vedas – the eternal revealed scriptures) and the Upanishads.Caste untouchability never existed in the Vedas. It is the creation of the Muslim rule because those who put up a fight and did not convert to Islam were punished for their commitment to their indigenous ethos and thrown out of the society as untouchables. These heroic people are enlisted as scheduled castes. We must differentiate between the ‘scheduled castes’ and the ‘Shudras’. Shudras were held with respect before the advent of the Smritis and the scheduled castes are of recent origin created during the muslim rule.
The Vishva Hindu Parishad totally rejects the “Manu Smriti” as it has no place in a civilized society. The Adi Manu Smriti is the Gita as revealed in Chapter IV of the Gita. The Dharma Sansad and the Margadarshak Mandal of Vishva Hindu Parishad constituted of Dharmacharyas, Sants, Mahamandaleshwars and Mahants have totally rejected caste untouchability as prevalent in the Hindu society today. They have decided to give ‘Mantra Deeksha’ without any discrimination.In the Vedas, there is no discrimination amongst the four Varnas. All are considered genius and masterminds in their own fields and all looked upon one another with respect. Recitation of the Vedic Mantras in daily life was practiced by the entire society irrespective of Varna. As for the Ashram Vyavastha, it enabled the individual-self to gradually unfold and expand his/her horizon of consciousness from micro-self through family, creed, nationality and ultimately attained absolute perfection by identifying with the universal self, the omnipresent divine self. Man started his journey as an individual Brahmachari, proceeded to Grihastha Ashram, then Vaanaprastha Ashram when he dedicated himself to the service of humanity, and finally accepted the Sannyaas Ashram in which he had to surrender his individual self at the feet of the divine for ultimate salvation.
September 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Mr. Sridhar Gowda if you dont know about Hinduism please keep quite. dont blame brahmins or any caste, because all are the roots of Hindu religion. And you know meaning of Hindu.Its “heenani gunani dhooshayati” means one who tries to remove the bad character of his own. So you born as a hindu. So we can call you as a “Janma hindu”. If you have any bad character, behaviour like opposing brahmins or hinduism please try to remove those character and be a “karma hindu”. eventhough you know about forcefull conversion of these misioneries, you are encouraging them why? you born as a hindu, then why you dont love our dharma. If you are having a spiritual knowledge and you are able to teach it to others you are also abrahmin by karma. if are ready to fight with the enemy and try to save this Bharath Matha then you are a kshatriya. Actually caste system is not there in hindu dharma. 4 varnas are there in hindu dharma according to “Guna and Karma”. First you try to understand these things.Without the knowledge please dont blame about anything hereafter.
September 14th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Deepak Kamat “Dismantling Brahminism is like dismantling humanity.”"
So you call Brahmism as humanity. Can the sringeri seer or udupi brahmins will come and dine with gowdas. Seeing 60Crore hindus as born low in your eyes, and do you call that as humanity. Will the acharyas hug a gowda or an Ediga?
Make sense.. Its because of the brahmic clutch over hinduism, pakistan moved away, and Hindus got converted to Islam, buddhism and Christianity.
And you are talking humanity here..Because the brahmins, who deprived educational right to other castes, india has poor literacy. You are leeches of Hinduism. Better get away. We can manage hinduism without you. Dont shed tears for hinduism, I know, deep in you, brahminism will only be your worry.
September 14th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Mr Pseudo Gowda,
Your impersonation attemps have already proved that your credibility is highly questionable. I am just hoping that you are different from that so called Najeeb.
I am not too sure in what kind of world you are living!!! You claim to be a Gowda that means you belong to a much ‘upper’ caste compared to mine. And, SURPRISE for you – Brahmins report to me. This so called imagination of yours about Brahminical Oppression is absolutely fictional. An ignorant person like you is talking about famous ‘Math’s of Karnataka. Pejavar Shri ji very recently gave a call saying “Dalitare, nimmondige naaviddeve” which means Dear Dalits, we are with you. He declared that he will not hesitate to sit and eat together with Dalits. Your rhetoric is a wasteful of an exercise; you are not at all providing any data points to prove your argument/fiction.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:47 am
> Who divided our Hindu community as Brahmin and Non Brahmin? Who practised varna?
Answers are provided here, will the converted brain have any reasoning ability is the question!
How British invented Caste
http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/caste-as-british-creation/
Why the Brits Wanted to Screw India
http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/why-the-brits-wanted-to-screw-india/
Caste as British Mischief
http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2009/07/04/1875/
September 15th, 2009 at 4:51 am
EVERY HUMAN BEING SHOULD READ THIS
2000 YEARS of HELL on EARTH
ONGOING GENOCIDESRECENT GENOCIDES
September 15th, 2009 at 4:56 am
> Hindus got converted to Islam, buddhism and Christianity.
Christians NEVER killed a single mosquito! They NEVER raped a single mosquito! They NEVER beheaded a Single mosquito. The proof is here:
2000 YEARS of HELL on EARTH
September 15th, 2009 at 4:57 am
“When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible.” — Jomo Kenyatta
September 15th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Ha Ha Ha….
Whenever I abuse Christians, the hits in my site goes up.
The Evangelists get very insecure when somebody shakes their strainglehold on media. Now these evangelists are thinking of controlling the internet media too.
September 15th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
My Christian / Evangelist brothers, just think a situation in which some goondas/criminals marched your house disguising some servicemen, had sweet coated talks, after they assumed their original form, vandalized everything, raped your mother/sister and left your home. While going back they met an accident, thus a horrible death and you got the information. What will be your first reaction? A sigh of relief and say “they deserve this!!”? Or do you will say that “this shouldn’t happen to them. What a good work they done, which I wanted to do myself!!!” whatever may be your reactions, most of the people’s will be the first one. Those who don’t know the mischievous past only will sympathize on them. I think now it is clear why some people rejoicing the death of YSR even though ist is condemnable. Infact, YSR was a cult figure in evangelists who vandalized and tried to rape our culture and religious harmony through mass conversions using Govt. machinery.
The cultural invasion is horrifying than the conversions itself. The results of cultural invasion after the globalization era are evident from the rampant use of alcohol, drugs, and open commercialization of sex in the steps of west. I don’t want to tell that we have to be in our shell made up of traditions and culture, just indicating that these all are the side-effects of globalization. The cultural erosion faced by the ethnic communities and adivasis are more horrible than this. Once they embraced the new faith through lure/threatening, they made to reject their roots and rich traditions through which they evolved, survived and existed for many centuries. I am not telling that never they should be modern. Here what happening is not modernizing, but making them to adapt a new faith, by removing their cultural identity. When the missionaries are sure that converted will not go back to their original faith, the supporting system slowly withdrawn and those people will be in a dilemma that they cannot continue in the new one or go back to original faith and culture. This is clear in the consideration of Dalit Christs as Second class Christians. (I am sure that you will oppose this claim, for self-satisfaction). Eventually this will lead to tensions and violence like which we saw in Kandhamal and Gujarat. So this becomes a deceitful and mischievous game plan that spoils others by cultural invasion, targetting the conversion. This is clear in the site Joshua project and all. If you see those sites mentioned by somebody in this forum, it is nothing but war call against other cultures and faiths.
Why this? It is unimaginable that Jesus Christ’s followers can stoop to such a nauseating degraded level. If we take the example of India, how they can tell we are ’spiritually poor’? Before them finding that word, we practiced it, still practicing, but plainly as a personal matter. If you thinking that disturbing the harmony of the society are spirituality, then pity on you!!! (It is amusing me how these evangelists can be ‘spiritual’, when their only intention is conversion, when they knows that their mischievous work will attract objection) violence is not only physical one, but emotional also. When you entering other’s domain without inviting and trying to make unwanted changes in the pattern of the society, definitely it will make friction.
Please tell me if according to Joshua project 100% people in earth becomes Christians what will happen to earth? will become another heaven without violence, immoral activities, incest? if it is so US and other western countries should have been heaven centuries back itself.
Here, in this forum I observed one thing, that twisting Hindu scriptures to their side without understanding single word. Consistently you are telling that Hindu Holy scriptures are full of violence, sexiness and all sort of bad things. You purposely forget to understand the content of lines. You know that Indian Spirituality is not living only on Holy Scriptures like in Christianity/Islam. Also it is through the noble traditions and culture which is respecting whole universe.
Please tell me that by reading any Hindu Holy Scriptures how many people got spoiled? How many people doing rape, murder, arson by the influenza of scriptures? (Not denying that in Hindus also fundamentalists existing). If people doing such things by the influence of Holy Scriptures, then most violent, sex-incest filled book should be Bible. The western countries are far worst than us in these regards. There the culture is so deteriorated that teacher-student sex, all sorts of incest, Swinging, Wife-swapping are rampant than India, where people regard their parents, teachers and all-giving Nature as GOD. Where you can find out such people who before cutting the wood, prays to the tree for forgiving, who seeing teacher, salute with almost respect.
If the evangelists are so noble, why they trying to degrade other faiths? I am sure that most of the Hindus dontav any objection to Jesus Christ, his philosophies, and we respect him as a God. But our objection is only to missionaries who cannot reciprocate our respect and trying to tarnish other faiths and cultures.
Another point is about the caste-system in India. It was a sad fact that existed here like the slavery of Negros in West, particularly in U.S. till last century, like the continuing discrimination of Niiggers (as white calls), like the treatment of Mujahideens in Pakistan, like the issues with Sunni-Shia /Wahabi sects, like the ever-fighting, power hungry denominations of various Christian/Muslim sects. So why only India you highlighting? Answer is clear that, you want to divide the people for ‘HARVESTING THE SOULS’. But forgetting that you are actually harvesting not the souls, but DEAD BODIES by making disharmony is society.
September 15th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
good explanation by Bijoy
September 15th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
gowda
So you call Brahmism as humanity. Can the sringeri seer or udupi brahmins will come and dine with gowdas. Seeing 60Crore hindus as born low in your eyes, and do you call that as humanity. Will the acharyas hug a gowda or an Ediga?
Even they will ,
But y dont to ask blady pope john to dine with poor dalit chiristians. U fool gowda? or innocent recent convert christian that’s why you dont know about our cristianity.
U dont even get burial ground. Untouchablity is very high in chiristianity, Even bomp throwing is happening between two groups in south tamil nadu area chiristian. It would have been better if my fore father would have not been converted to chiristianity just for money. Hindus live a peaceful life ours is mere worldly life.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Deepak Konkani Brahmaan kamat, if you have guts talk to me straight as a Gowda Vs GS.Brahmin. Dont drag Christians here, to cover up your brahminic ass. I am a Hindu and Im a trustee for our village temple, where we chucked the ghee eating money swindling pujari.
You brahmins please get out of HInduism. Hinduism is dravidianism and the religion for Brahminism is Varnaism.
You Sarawat Brahmans are already cornered in Karnataka. No more Brahmin chief ministers for Karnataka. Temples are going to be the fellow men of Yeddi’s caste.
So you brahmins, go back to your vedic profession of taking the begging bowl, and knock every doors for alms and ghee..You beggers, you spoiled our Hinduism, for your selfish reasons and benefit for your own community.
Dont dare to even call yourself as a Kannadiga.. You konkana bhamman.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Hindu is termed coined by britishers and Mughals…People who live east of sindh river were called hindus …
Casts were occupations like present day poltician son is politician, Actor son is actor etc..same sytem ..Cast system was a social system based on need..business man son knows trick of trade from his childhood…similarly doctors son…
Most of Brahmins are poor they are preists in temple..Kings used Brahmins as tools to subdue the population , same as todays politicans use them as bad people ….Real people to blame are kings and other power holders who used brahmins for there survivals to subdue lower castes….
So hate YSR as much as you hate Brahamins….becuase his son jagan wants to follow the same path…..This son follows father is disease exists accross religions…..As far as christianity is concerned …most dangerous part is forceful conversion we all should resist it …Hinduism by nature doesnot give a damn about cast , anyone can releaize god in himself. .outlookwise it should reorganize and restructure ….
September 16th, 2009 at 8:33 am
> Gowda Vs GS.Brahmin
That’s how we missionaries divide and rule Hindus
> Dont drag Christians here, to cover up your brahminic ass.
Yeah, please forget the hell we have caused and causing now! Don’t ever read this link again
2000 YEARS of HELL on EARTH
September 16th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) American President said:
“The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.”
September 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
the arguments are based on racism.Brahmins raemained brahmins by selecting a separate indentity of culture ,behaviour pattern and they were nearer to temples and some scriptures.they were wooed by kings because of the respect and their non-economic ways which concentrated all material wealth in Kings and such ruler class.
Further the christians were against muslims even now.All crusades and wars against the middle east muslims were by Europeans.
Hindus and Bhudists are small slices which they want to take into their fold by supplanting them by material wealth and by conversion.They think number is is important.
I consider all religions as wasteful congregations.Some racial groups like brahmins tried to preserve the genetic purity in diection by marriages amongst themselves.
Any body will agree that the chritians aand muslims are not pure racial groups.Trying to unite all via god and temples is a old stratagy in which brahmins have failed.Others like chritians and muslims still persist.
God and thinking of God can only relieve the genetic stress which is imaginary.Also these groupism is for hidden agendas by many.some have money some have power and some have fear in mind. they follw the religious gurus to avoid their failure in other fronts like politics and economics.
Stop all these wasteful discussions and try to innovate and discover trechnology and increase the living conditions of all people.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Dear Mr Gouda
can you CHUCK the Brahmanism within you? Thereafter you speak about the chucking of the Brahmins from the Temple.
Your policy is fencing around you saying something vomiting something dividing on the basis of language. there are so many having guts to talk with you.
Mr. Gowda Yes brahmins are eating ghee but you dont no they are eating the sins of YOUR’S AND your forefathers also.
Even the islam and Christias for last two thousand years fought against Sananthana Dharma. But ouyr Dharma stood for all those years and till now it is world famous.
This Dharma was flown among us due to the specific nature in it. Our Dharma is not like Greek ar other which were perished without having followers.
Reason for the sastainability you have to understand through History.
Otherwise your saying that you are the temple trustee has no value.
Can you take out brahmanism from yourself then only ? you cannot understand the question.
So please understand the truth. Where Brahman is there there is Gods.
So no need of vedic culture to wander for alms and ghee..You only hgave to beg before the Vedic /brahmnism.
Only branhmnism saved our Hinduism, with their generous way. therefor you are here saying that “I am Hindu”.
Otherwise there was no gowda or Kannadiga………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED TO COME UP DO NOT PULL OTHERS.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Well every body said good I really appreciate all of you, and i am confused whom do i support should i as a christian, or as an indian well leave it all those who wrote blelong to defferent caste and creed, I every body has failed to understand the truth be it a Hindu brother or a Muslim or a dalit christian, one thing we forget at these time is the destiny every humen has to die one day or the another, and if you are so Upset of your hindu treditions that our CM has misused his power or what ever you blame for, you may be right and if you think you are right then what happen to Rajiv gandhi, Madhava Reddy, Soundarya, Balayogi, and so on and what did they do, and above all at many places of worship be it a Kumbakonam iam not very sure about the names be it Ayyappa temple in Kerala so Many People & Children die in Stampade and what do you call theese kind of death’s do youwant us to name it a curse from god dear friend please use your skills for the the upliftment of our indian society Jai Hind and god bless you
September 24th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Monkey Gods.. You all should admire..
Natural Gods of Hinduism like Monkey, disfigured child gods with 10 hands, and a flirting God and butter stealing god..
Hinduism is great, and one need to struggle to explore, thought its declining fast in India
September 25th, 2009 at 9:43 am
@ Sunder,
How much have you been paid for Padre Hinduism?
September 25th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Sunder, Hinduism is not declining in India and not even in the world. Missioneries are trying to decline it by converting some Hindus like you. your statement about our Gods without study of Hinduism is shows your mental insolvency. Missioneries are taking this(no knowledge about Hindu Dharma) type of advantage to convert Hindus.
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 am
http://f947.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f16779%5fAMIRaMsAACIoSsIOLQtMvhNfzqQ&pid=11&fid=Inbox&inline=1
Mr.sundar,
Interesting……………….
Read the last one…
Old Photographs from IndianHistory
The daughter of an Indian maharajah seated on a panther she shot, sometime during 1920s.
A British man gets a pedicure from an Indian servant.
The Grand Trunk Road , built by Sher Shah Suri, was the main trade route from Calcutta to Kabul .
A group of Dancing or nautch girls began performing with their elaborate costumes and jewelry.
A rare view of the President’s palace and the Parliament building in New Delhi .
Women gather at a party in Mumbai ( Bombay ) in 1910.
A group from Vaishnava, a sect founded by a Hindu mystic. His followers are called Gosvami-maharajahs
An aerial view of Jama Masjid mosque in Delhi , built between 1650 and 1658.
The Imperial Airways ‘Hanno’ Hadley Page passenger airplane carries the England to India air mail, stopping in Sharjah to refuel.
See what the India was at 1835…… Forward it to all Indian
October 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Namaskar friends,
here is the latest update of Sewa Activities in the flood affected areas.
SEWA VIBHAG
Flood relief Activity report 5th Oct 2009
The century’s worst river havoc has shown death devastation and sorrow in its worst forms in South
india. Andhra pradesh and Karnataka bore the brunt of the havoc while orissa, goa and maharashtra
had a lesser version.
Sangh pariwar organisations including RSS, Sewa Bharathi, Vanvasi kalyan Ashram, VHP,
Bhajrang Dal and a host of them are full time dedicating their human resource in saving the flood
affected districts. A total of 750 volunteers are in the field and more of them working to support
them by procuring relief materials and donations. The Floods in South India have wrecked a havoc
with the lives of millions. Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka are the worst hit and people affected as
well as volunteers working to save them are struggling to keep up with the pace of he destruction
and reduce the impacet. Seva Bharathi volunteers have already swung in to action. We have 750
volunteers working in the flood relief activities and more than a 1000s more working to support
them in providing the required relief.
Seva Bharati volunteers have already started launching relief camps in affected towns of AP,
Karnataka and Orissa. Right now food is being Distributed to the affected people. As per the
preliminary report received from volunteer the situation is as below:
In Kurnool the Sewa Vibhag is working in 29 villages as well as kurnool and Nandyal towns.
Food packets 20 lakh
Chapati packets 15 lakh
Yellow Rice packets 4 lakh
Bread packets 4 lakh
Biscuit packets 1 lakh
Water packets 1.5 lakh
Relief camp Saraswathi Sishu Mandir, Kurnool
No of Beneficiaries 1500
Administrative Relief camp office: Pulla reddy factory, kurnool
In Mahaboobnagar District Sewa vibhag is working in 16 of the 46 worst affected villages. here is
the info:
Rice Distributed 90 Quintals
Water packets 2.5 lakh
Clothes Distributed 1000
Biscuits packets 50,000
Bread packets 50,000
Bleeching powder 10 bags
There is an urgent necessity for Non perishable food items like biscuit packets, bread packets, water
packets, Blankets, new clothes, candles, match boxes, bleaching powder, phenyle and utensils.
Sewa vibhag is putting together a relief kit with 3 sets of cooking utensils, two plates and glasses,
10kg rice, 1kg dal, 1/2 kg tamarind, 1/4 kg masala powder, 1 blanket and 1 mat. The Overall cost -
Rs.1,200/- per kit.
Working for the for the relief and rehabilitation of the affected people many of whom have lost
everything overnight. Online transfer of funds can be done to
Seva Bharathi A/c No: 630501065297, ICICI Bank, Himayat Nagar Branch, Hyderabad.
A/c No: 2010036679 syndicate bank, Kachiguda Railway station branch, Hyderabad. Branch code
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Cheque /draft can be drawn in the name of Seva Bharathi and post/courier it to below
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December 20th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Christians can convert as many as they want.
They can spread their lies as far as they can.
They can try destroy our culture and traditions.
But what they fail to see is that the world as a whole is becoming more logical
The world is seeing the flaws in the bible and the foolishness of its followers
One day it will realize the truth and will turn towards the most logical religion there is
Hinduism!
Nothing, No One can ever stop that.
It will happen, all Hindus need to do is wait and watch….
April 9th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
My faith in the Hindu Gods was immensely reinforced by the act of Tirumala Venkataramana, who wiated for a long time for Hindus to act against the destroyer demon called as YSR. When Hindus did not act, He himself acted by crashing his Helecopeter.
Yada yada Hi Dharmasya Glanirbhavti Bharata……
June 8th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
that fag ysr also sent evangelists to the top of the tirumala mountain and they spread hate message pamphlets and derogatory remarks about Hindu gods…
those evangelists were caught by the devotees and bashed up…
there is a video in the youtube also about this incident…
very soon after this incident ysr died in helicopter crash…
June 20th, 2010 at 4:54 am
Very good site, where did you come up with the info in this write-up? I’m happy I found it though, ill be checking back soon to see what other articles you have.
July 24th, 2010 at 9:47 am
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE REJOICED AT THE DEATH OF YSR ? SUCH PEOPLE ARE INHUMAN, UNFIT TO BE CALLED AS HUMAN, WORSE THAN BEASTS AND REVEALS THEIR EVIL MINDSET. IF A HINDU GOD PUNISHED YSR, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS WHO DIED WITH HIM? WERE THEY ALL CHRISTIANS ? BALA YOGO FORMER SPEAKER OF LOK SABA ALSO DIED IN SIMILAR AIR CRASH. WILL YOU PRAISE GOD FOR THIS ? TRY TO BE A HUMAN FIRST !
July 24th, 2010 at 10:12 am
^^^
Regarding YSR, he was acting as a frontman for the Christian terrorist network. So I rejoiced.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:34 pm
dear britto,
britto: HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE REJOICED AT THE DEATH OF YSR ? SUCH PEOPLE ARE INHUMAN, UNFIT TO BE CALLED AS HUMAN, WORSE THAN BEASTS AND REVEALS THEIR EVIL MINDSET. IF A HINDU GOD PUNISHED YSR, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS WHO DIED WITH HIM……..
Easwar: I fully agree your thought dear ; i will tell another story also: about 6months back there was heavy rain fall due to that land slide in ooty area. Ootty area mostly inhabitants of thodar community which is we call malai vazh makkal. They are so nice, well cultured and god faith people.
These bloody Christiane community is trying for enhancing cadre for their party. Hence they tried thodar for conversion from Indian dharma to Nude, ugly full, lust full, worldly thinking bloody Christiane community. But this community thodar does not like nude/lusty culture they just thro them(Christiane) out.
Since after land slide happen there were about one hundred died. They (bloody chiristian) say that becouse your community did not convert bloody chiriest is un happy and killed those community and its only sample and some more will happen, so let other join with our party called Christiane so that your life will be saved. But thodar is well knowledged people they just shaved them out. Kindly co relate dear friend.
July 25th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Lakhs of people rejoiced YSR death…
he is the corruption king of andhra..
even today they uncovered another of his scandals about illegal mining…
he illegally gave lots of mines to his son-in-law(brother anil) who is an evangelist..
everyone celebrated the death of Ravan.. same way we are celebrating the death of the devil YSR.
how dare he start evangelising on Tirumala hill… will they accept if any other religion is preached in Jerusalem..
he died a dogs death for his corruption and crime..
oh, dont forget his background…. He is a factionist and his father is also a factionist..
July 29th, 2010 at 5:17 am
Remarkable piece of writing. I absolutely enjoyed reading it.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
DEAR KRISHNA,
ALL OF YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT ALL CHRISTIANS ARE NOT TRUE CRISTIANS AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOMINAL XIANS. IF THEY PASS SUCH REMARKS, IT IS REALLY SAD.BUT CHRISTIANITY CHANGED LOT OF TRIBAL PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HAS MADE THEM REAL HUMANS. SOME OF THEM WERE CANNIBALS. SOME PEOPLE WANT THE TRIBAL PEOPLE TO BE IGNORANT SO THAT THEY CAN EXPLOIT THEM. SUCH PEOPLE ALWAYS OPPOSE XTIANS.
July 30th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
@ Britto,
Christianity also killed a large number of tribals virtually wiped them out. Can you count them in millions or billions?
July 30th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Britto:ALL OF YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT ALL CHRISTIANS ARE NOT TRUE CRISTIANS AND SOME OF THEM ARE NOMINAL XIANS. IF THEY PASS SUCH REMARKS, IT IS REALLY SAD.BUT CHRISTIANITY CHANGED LOT OF TRIBAL PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HAS MADE THEM REAL HUMANS. SOME OF THEM WERE CANNIBALS.
Krish:Tribes in India is equal to bramin community. Cristian community got to learn from thodar community. They respect elder they respect nature,god and animal. But globally Cristian are famous for killing,looting nature & murdering. Christians cant teach but they have to learn real best culture from thodar community dear britto.