JAMAT ISSUES FATWA AGAINST VANDE MATARAM, TAKES TERROR STANCE
This is for all those who claim that Indian Muslims are innocent.
Indian Muslims are very much in support of terrorism and are against patriotic Vande Mataram all because Bankim Chandra’s national song eulogizes Goddess Durga — which is considered haram by PBUH in his terror manual called Koran.
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Postscript: My definition of Indian Muslims does not include the liberated Muslims (those who have seen through Koranic hypocrisies.
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Deepak Kamat is Editor in Chief of 'AseemaA', Journal for National Resurgence. Email: deepakastrologer@gmail.com
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November 4th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Also read this:
http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/2009/11/participation-of-union-minister-in.html
The participation of a Union Minister in the Deoband programme showed that the Centre was hand in glove with anti-Vande Mataram forces
and Congress had understanding with “anti-national” elements.
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Indian Muslims are very much in support of terrorism and are against patriotic Vande Mataram…?
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from Krishen Kak
date Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:55 AM
subject J-e-D issues fatwa against Vande Mataram
J-e-D issues fatwa against Vande Mataram
Agencies | New Delhi
Islamic group Jamiat-e-Ulema has issued a fatwa against India’s national song Vande Mataram. The fatwa dissuades Muslims from singing the national song as some of the verses of the song, they allege, “are against the tenets of Islam.”
The fatwa was not in the written agenda of the Ulema convention. Media reports says that the Muslim Law Board justified this decision saying that the Muslims cannot worship anyone other than God.
Union Home Minister P Chidambaram addressed the Muslim convention at Deoband on Tuesday, where he said that their invitation to him was a significant gesture for him. He added that he saw it as an oppurtunity to reach out to every section of the society.
BJP on Tuesday condemned the Jamiat Ulama-e-Hind’s opposition to the recitation of Vande Mataram by Muslims and said the presence of Home P Chidambaram in its general assembly legitimised the resolution adopted endorsing a previous edict against singing of the national song.
“We begin our programmes by singing Vande Mataram. But the Jamiat Ulama-e-Hind function started with a protest against the national song,” BJP national vice president Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi told reporters in New Delhi.
He demanded that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh should explain the compulsions behind the home minister to attend the programme after the resolution against singing of Vande Mataram was passed.
Naqvi said the presence of Chidambaram at the programme “gave legitimacy to the resolution…It is a matter of concern.”
He claimed that the presence of a member of the Union Cabinet proved that Congress and the UPA Government have a weak policy on terror and separatism.
Attacking the home minister, Naqvi said Chidambaram should have at least said something about the resolution in his speech. “I have a copy of his speech. He has mentioned about Babri mosque demolition and communal riots, but there is no mention of the resolution against Vande Mataram.”
Senior BJP leader Murli Manohar Joshi said that the resolution against singing of Vande Mataram is not acceptable and it is against Constitutional provisions.
“During the freedom struggle, it was a motivational song. It should be sung by every patriot.”
The fatwa was issued by Jamait-e-Ulema Hind, Deoband through a resolution which states that Muslims should not sing Vande Mataram as its recitation is against Islam. It states that some of the verses of the national song are against the tenets of Islam.
In Lucknow, BJP state unit president Ramapati Ram Tripathi said the protest against Vande Mataram was “anti-national and the presence of the Union Home Minister was condemnable”.
He claimed that the participation of a Union Minister in the Deoband programme showed that the Centre was hand in glove with anti-Vande Mataram forces and Congress had understanding with “anti-national” elements.
“Not only Congress, SP and BSP should also clarify its stand on this issue as its very sensitive and related to the pride of the nation”, Tripathi said.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Had there been exchange of population during partition or just after it, we would have been so much better off. It is the communal, vote-bank hankering congress which is responsible for the pathetic plight of us patriotic Indians. Congress should have announced that all Indians will be bound by a Common Civil Code, that there will be true secularism, that there will be no discrimination shown towards any Indian after Independence.But this hypocritical party started giving Haj subsidy out of the tax-payers’ money, gave special privileges to the muslims and christians in the name of ‘minorities’, did not stop conversions, and bent backwards for the votes of these unpatriotic people. They continued in their discriminatory politics like the British who followed the ‘divide and rule policy, although the Constitution forbade it. The Sachar report is a fudged document which is discriminatory against poor hindus. The hypocrite Chidambaram did not have the courage to say anything against the ‘fatwawalas’. Instead he had the nerve to accuse hindus for the babri demolition.Shame on this spineless man!
November 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
I AM AN INDIAN,I AM A MUSLIM……BUT I AM NOT AGAINST VANDE MAATARAM…….
SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO CALL ME????
AM I TERRORIST BECAUSE I AM BORN AS A MUSLIM?
WHO TOLD MUSLIMS SUPPORT TERRORISM?
ITS PEOPLE LIKE MADNI WHO PICKS OUT NEGATIVE MEANING FROM MORALS,AND USES IT IN TERRORISM,
AND TERRORISM CANT GROW WITHOUT RACIST PEOPLE LIKE YOU….
YOU PEOPLE DISCRIMINATE MUSLIMS AND TREATS THEM AS SLAVES,
AND SEEING THIS COMMON MUSLIMS FEEL “WE SHOULD PROTEST”
AND TERRORISTS UTILISES THIS…..
SHAME ON DIRTY PEOPLE LIKE YOU……
REMEMBER RELIGION IS FOR MENTAL PEACE OF HUMANS,AND FOR A MORAL LIFE….
NOT FOR WRECKED PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO BREAK OUT RIOTS…..
MAY GOD MAKE YOU TRAVELL IN THE RIGHT PATH…..
MAY GOD BRING THE DAY WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU EXHAUST AND THOSE PEOPLE COME WHO HAVE NO DISCRIMINATION…..
MAY INDIA DEVELOPE INTO A TERRORIST FREE AND DISCRIMINANT FREE NATION
JAI HIND
November 5th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
its against our laws to use discriminant languages against religions…..
calling a holy book terror manual is anti national
now who is anti national here?
u people create new meanings without reading holybooks…..
stupids beleive it…..
so u got only stupids with u…so good luck for a stupid nation….
and wish me back for a nation of indians who treat every people regardless of relegion as brothers……
who killed gandhi???????
people like u!!!!!!
but u people are not called terrorists because u are not born muslim…….
REMEMBER WE ARE CITIZENS AND NOT REFUGEES!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:05 am
The Arcadian dogma
Dogma: its against our laws to use discriminant languages against religions…..
Reality: Islam is not a religion. it is a terror cult. Read the Koran and Hadiths.
Dogma: calling a holy book terror manual is anti national
Reality: Muslims call it a holy book. I have read it. It is a terror manual.
Dogma: now who is anti national here?
Reality: There is no question of being a nationalist. I am Hindu internationalist.
Dogma: u people create new meanings without reading holybooks…..
Reality: I have read all holy books including your holy terror book.
Dogma: stupids beleive it….. so u got only stupids with u…so good luck for a stupid nation….and wish me back for a nation of indians who treat every people regardless of relegion as brothers……
Reality: Nice taqia…. Even I am for a universe of brotherhood. But Koran says, “Kill the Kafirs”.
Dogma: who killed gandhi???????
Reality: Nathuram godse.
Dogma: people like u!!!!!!
Reality: NOt me
Dogma: but u people are not called terrorists because u are not born muslim…….
Reality: Islam is a terror manual and Muslims (those who believe in Koran and follow it) invariably become terrorists.
Dogma: REMEMBER WE ARE CITIZENS AND NOT REFUGEES!!!
Reality: And you too remember that we are not Kafirs, we are also proud citizens.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Dogma: I AM AN INDIAN,I AM A MUSLIM……BUT I AM NOT AGAINST VANDE MAATARAM…….
Reality: good for you.
Dogma: SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO CALL ME????
Reality: According to the Koran, you are a Kafir who should be stoned to death.
Dogma: AM I TERRORIST BECAUSE I AM BORN AS A MUSLIM?
reality: You become a terrorist when you start killing kafirs (Hindus) as prescribed by the koran.
Dogma: WHO TOLD MUSLIMS SUPPORT TERRORISM?
Reality: Koran and Hadiths.
Dogma: ITS PEOPLE LIKE MADNI WHO PICKS OUT NEGATIVE MEANING FROM MORALS,AND USES IT IN TERRORISM,
Reality: Read the Koran. Madani is only faithfully following it.
Dogma: AND TERRORISM CANT GROW WITHOUT RACIST PEOPLE LIKE YOU….
Reality: Who told you that I am a racist?
Dogma: YOU PEOPLE DISCRIMINATE MUSLIMS AND TREATS THEM AS SLAVES,
Reality: Wrong again. Koran divides the people between Believers and non-believers.
Dogma: AND SEEING THIS COMMON MUSLIMS FEEL “WE SHOULD PROTEST”
AND TERRORISTS UTILISES THIS…..
Reality: Either youhave not read the Koran or you are resorting to Taqia. Koran is a terror manual which tels the belivers to convert or kill non-believers.
Dogma: SHAME ON DIRTY PEOPLE LIKE YOU……
Reality: Shame on dirty Koran which instructs its followers to convert or kill.
Dogma: REMEMBER RELIGION IS FOR MENTAL PEACE OF HUMANS,AND FOR A MORAL LIFE…. NOT FOR WRECKED PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO BREAK OUT RIOTS….. MAY GOD MAKE YOU TRAVELL IN THE RIGHT PATH…..
Reality: Allah says in the Koran through Prophet Mohammed that the INfidels should be kiled wherever you find them. So who is wreaking riots.
Dogma: MAY GOD BRING THE DAY WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU EXHAUST AND THOSE PEOPLE COME WHO HAVE NO DISCRIMINATION…..
Reality: So you want Dar-ul-Islam. NO way, this will be a Hindu world.
Dogma: MAY INDIA DEVELOPE INTO A TERRORIST FREE AND DISCRIMINANT FREE NATION
JAI HIND
Reality: That will be possible only when that terror manual which you quote often will be irrelevant. Jai Hind.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:14 am
There are 6236 ayats in Quran, out of which about 3900 preach hatred, intolerance and violence. About 900 verses directly talk about murder, killing, looting, beheading, raping, hell-fire, etc. of Kafirs. Taquiya means religious cheating. Quran allows cheating and telling lies for spreading Islam. If anybody wants them, I will give it.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Mr.Kamat,
Is the above your interpretation of the Quran? or you have some valid evidence from Islamic Scholors?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:17 am
@ Dharmanu,
The evidence is Koran and Hadiths itself — translated by reputed Islamic scholars and backed by the official Saudi Government — custodians of Pure Islam.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
ok,
now i can understand you are expert in breaking out riots between hindus and muslims……
u read koran?
right?
then tell me the meaning of aoozu billahi mina shaithwaani rajeem,
tell meaning of bismillahi rahmani raheem
and if possible whole meaning of the part…….
and tell where CONVERT-OR-KILL POLICY comes…..
now i got a question to ask…..
are you a hindu?
then why you joined sex is our religion community????
is HINDUISM=SEX?????????
and why u joined hindu guys&muslim gals dating community????
so theres no religion for u when the matter is sex….ha ha ha
u people justify gandhi assasination…..
only BJP-RSS-BAJRA DANGAL justify gandhi assasination……
so u are real terrorist….
November 6th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
@Dogma: WHO TOLD MUSLIMS SUPPORT TERRORISM?
Reality: Koran and Hadiths.
gimme quran line telling to support terrorism
if u can
@Dogma: ITS PEOPLE LIKE MADNI WHO PICKS OUT NEGATIVE MEANING FROM MORALS,AND USES IT IN TERRORISM,
Reality: Read the Koran. Madani is only faithfully following it.
gimme arabic lines telling “plan bomb blast,organise terror”
@Dogma: YOU PEOPLE DISCRIMINATE MUSLIMS AND TREATS THEM AS SLAVES,
Reality: Wrong again. Koran divides the people between Believers and non-believers.
the division is to tell about the condition of peoplr on the life after death….no one tells to kill…
@Dogma: AND SEEING THIS COMMON MUSLIMS FEEL “WE SHOULD PROTEST”
AND TERRORISTS UTILISES THIS…..
Reality: Either youhave not read the Koran or you are resorting to Taqia. Koran is a terror manual which tells the belivers to convert or kill non-believers.
gimme arabic lines telling CONVERT-OR-KILL poolicy
@Dogma: SHAME ON DIRTY PEOPLE LIKE YOU……
Reality: Shame on dirty Koran which instructs its followers to convert or kill.
U ARE ESCAPING TELLING NONSENSE
@Dogma: REMEMBER RELIGION IS FOR MENTAL PEACE OF HUMANS,AND FOR A MORAL LIFE…. NOT FOR WRECKED PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO BREAK OUT RIOTS….. MAY GOD MAKE YOU TRAVELL IN THE RIGHT PATH…..
Reality: Allah says in the Koran through Prophet Mohammed that the INfidels should be kiled wherever you find them. So who is wreaking riots.
gimme the lines telling so?cant find??pathetic
@Dogma: MAY GOD BRING THE DAY WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU EXHAUST AND THOSE PEOPLE COME WHO HAVE NO DISCRIMINATION…..
Reality: So you want Dar-ul-Islam. NO way, this will be a Hindu world.
OH,you mean all hindus are discriminant and those who have no discrimination are muslims!!thanks
November 6th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
hey remember?
india is not the whole world?
world is very big,
remember no: of hindus work outside india and under non-hindus
“APNE GHALI MEY KUTHA BI SHER HEY”
so u people are minority in world
i like hindus and other religions but i hate people like you,who are the real terrorists
November 6th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
@Dogma: WHO TOLD MUSLIMS SUPPORT TERRORISM?
Reality: Koran and Hadiths.
*****gimme quran line telling to support terrorism
if u can
@Dogma: ITS PEOPLE LIKE MADNI WHO PICKS OUT NEGATIVE MEANING FROM MORALS,AND USES IT IN TERRORISM,
Reality: Read the Koran. Madani is only faithfully following it.
*****gimme arabic lines telling “plan bomb blast,organise terror”
@Dogma: YOU PEOPLE DISCRIMINATE MUSLIMS AND TREATS THEM AS SLAVES,
Reality: Wrong again. Koran divides the people between Believers and non-believers.
*****the division is to tell about the condition of peoplr on the life after death….no one tells to kill…
@Dogma: AND SEEING THIS COMMON MUSLIMS FEEL “WE SHOULD PROTEST”
AND TERRORISTS UTILISES THIS…..
Reality: Either youhave not read the Koran or you are resorting to Taqia. Koran is a terror manual which tells the belivers to convert or kill non-believers.
*****gimme arabic lines telling CONVERT-OR-KILL poolicy
@Dogma: SHAME ON DIRTY PEOPLE LIKE YOU……
Reality: Shame on dirty Koran which instructs its followers to convert or kill.
*****U ARE ESCAPING TELLING NONSENSE
@Dogma: REMEMBER RELIGION IS FOR MENTAL PEACE OF HUMANS,AND FOR A MORAL LIFE…. NOT FOR WRECKED PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO BREAK OUT RIOTS….. MAY GOD MAKE YOU TRAVELL IN THE RIGHT PATH…..
Reality: Allah says in the Koran through Prophet Mohammed that the INfidels should be kiled wherever you find them. So who is wreaking riots.
*****gimme the lines telling so?cant find??pathetic
@Dogma: MAY GOD BRING THE DAY WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU EXHAUST AND THOSE PEOPLE COME WHO HAVE NO DISCRIMINATION…..
Reality: So you want Dar-ul-Islam. NO way, this will be a Hindu world.
*****OH,you mean all hindus are discriminant and those who have no discrimination are muslims!!thanks
November 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
The Arcadian dogma
Dogma: its against our laws to use discriminant languages against religions…..
Reality: Islam is not a religion. it is a terror cult. Read the Koran and Hadiths.
*****indian constitution treats islam as religion and therefore u violated lawa,ok,HI CRIMINAL
Dogma: calling a holy book terror manual is anti national
Reality: Muslims call it a holy book. I have read it. It is a terror manual.
HOW A HINDU LIKE U READ IT???WITHOUT KNOWING ARABI VERY WELL????U MAY READ SOMETHING ELSE
Dogma: now who is anti national here?
Reality: There is no question of being a nationalist. I am Hindu internationalist.
Dogma: u people create new meanings without reading holybooks…..
Reality: I have read all holy books including your holy terror book.
I READ RAMAYANA<MAHABHARATHA etc…really interesting….sexy…..PAANCHALI VASTHRAKSHEPAM,SHIVA-GANGA IMMORAL TRAFFIC ETC
Dogma: stupids beleive it….. so u got only stupids with u…so good luck for a stupid nation….and wish me back for a nation of indians who treat every people regardless of relegion as brothers……
Reality: Nice taqia…. Even I am for a universe of brotherhood. But Koran says, “Kill the Kafirs”.
WHERE IT TOLD SO????GIMME THE EXACT LINES……..
Dogma: who killed gandhi???????
Reality: Nathuram godse.
HE IS YOUR BROTHER HAVING SAME THOUGHTS LIKE YOU
Dogma: people like u!!!!!!
Reality: NOt me
BUT YOUR ANCESTOR
Dogma: but u people are not called terrorists because u are not born muslim…….
Reality: Islam is a terror manual and Muslims (those who believe in Koran and follow it) invariably become terrorists.
WHAT IF I CALL MAHABHARATHA SEX MANUAL AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW IT CALLGALS&FUCKERS….
EVEN YOU JOINED COMMUNITY-SEX IS OUR RELIGION….
IS HINDUISM=SEX??????
Dogma: REMEMBER WE ARE CITIZENS AND NOT REFUGEES!!!
Reality: And you too remember that we are not Kafirs, we are also proud citizens.
right,
kafir means non-muslims….and doesnt mean those who must be killed
and no one is telling to kill kafirs
November 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
“There are 6236 ayats in Quran, out of which about 3900 preach hatred, intolerance and violence. About 900 verses directly talk about murder, killing, looting, beheading, raping, hell-fire, etc. of Kafirs. Taquiya means religious cheating. Quran allows cheating and telling lies for spreading Islam. If anybody wants them, I will give it.”
the matter with deepak is that,he read only books like mahabharatha which have no moral and only lotsand lots of sex stories…..
in quran even a muslim who rapes,kills,loots becomes kafir(non-muslim)
and these subjects are told not to teach-how to do it…..
but what will happen to us if we do such crimes……
for eg:-
a alcohol consumer will be having all wastes for drink in his after death life……
Deepak is real terrorist
he showed some pics of pakisthanis burning our national flag
and tells its muslims……
but they are pakisthanis and indian muslims dont like them….
why blaming indian muslims….
Deepak is behaving anti-national
and deepak gave protester`s photo above…..
watch it carefully
they are not muslims shouting to kill kafir`s
they are victims of BJP-RSS rapes,discrimination and they are people who losed their loved ones because of deepak`s hero modi….
their protest is against modi not against vande mataram…..
my brothers,common hindus……dont follow terrorists like deepak
November 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
“the matter with deepak is that,he read only books like mahabharatha which have no moral and only lotsand lots of sex stories…..”
Mahabharata has sex stories ? At least try and come across as a sane person.
“in quran even a muslim who rapes,kills,loots becomes kafir(non-muslim)”
So you are saying that muhammad was a kaffir ? Because he certainly ordered the beheading of 900 bound Jews of Banu Queraza village, and he tortured Kinana to make him tell about the village treasure. He built a fire on Kinana’s chest in order to get at the treasure. And when Kinana had died, muhammad raped his wife Safiya. He also looted their village, Khyber. In his life time, muhammad was a caravan and village raider and this is clearly mentioned in the Kuran and the Hadiths.
The rest of your post is unreadable except for your stupid statement “Deepak is a terrorist”. Pass middle school at least before posting online.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
who told the muslims are support of terrorism,
i agreed that some minority group are encourage in these kind of activities,its only a minority group doing these kind of terrorism ,but you people blame the whole muslims for this,
you don’t know what koran tells ,its does not support terrorism or any in human things, its say about love,we are all the son of adam. these terrorist are not muslims, they are away from allah and prophet muhammed because they are killing innocent peoples,they violate koran and prophet muhammeds thoughts.
think what happens in pakistan its a islamic country but terrorist killing the innocent people everyday,you know these innocent peoples are not hindus or any other religion they are all muslims,
in this we get that terrorism is against not to hindus nor christians, its against whole religion.
these terrorist people are not muslims but there names only match with islam.
i again said that islam does not support terrorism,those who support they were not muslims.
so dont blame it on muslims.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Wake up sarafaraz.
Quran is the most disgusting book I ever red (ofcourse, I didn’t complete because it’s not possible for me to digest the hate content it inject upon its readers). I wonder how Muslims read it daily. Almost every single page in the quran has a verse atleast against disbelievers.
Secular Hindus and christians who come here to defend Islam and Muslims should frst read Quran and hadiths. We are not advocating a blind hatred towards Muslims. But the ideology that they have chosen as a guiding path to their lives is very dangerous and it can change then into monsters in no time.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
hey mr.vijayan…..if you read it gimme arabic words telling to kill……
you people read translation translated by those hindus who study arabi to make people misunderstand quran…..
you are a terrorist,
you are racist…..
if i say that your holybooks are encouraging sex,how can you deny??????
i have evidence—-
shiva and ganga engaged in immoral traffic……
and there are many hot stories in your books,
is that good to use your holybook as a guide????
also your hero deepak kaamat joined “sex is our religion community in orkut,
so we can be sure that hinduism=sex
you people comment only on those commentors,who`s comment have given you space to comment stupidity…..
November 7th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
@s
before you create bad stories and post here,first atleast try searching stories in google,first check whether such a story is there,atleast in any website……
and dont create stories and blog it,and link it?????ok?????
there is no person named kinan in quran
there is no such story of a rape by mohammed,
if there is give me the exact page number and verse number……
you people cant find it,
because those stories are imagination of hindu terrorists like deepak,
i am challanging you to
reply satisfyingly to all muslim supporting comments???
have you got the guts to give me arabic words that tell to kill,rape.etc?????
translation can be done in many ways…..
in hindu mythologies only sex stories are there,that also between gods&goddesses????
if there are many gods will there be no conflicts??????
on power????
oh sorry,
no god is free,,,,,
everyone is busy with sex…..
longlive shiva-ganga immoral traffic
November 7th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
i posted many comments justifying muslims…..
but shameless hindus deleted comments……
you people can only delete truth…..
but truth remains truth
November 8th, 2009 at 11:53 am
“before you create bad stories and post here,first atleast try searching stories in google,first check whether such a story is there,atleast in any website……
and dont create stories and blog it,and link it?????ok?????
there is no person named kinan in quran”
Okay, I’ll use Google. Below are the results. You can see that the story of muhammad torturing Kinana to make him tell about the village treasure is right there in the Hadiths. Also, muhammad raped Kinana’s wife, Safiya, immediately afterwards. Of course, the Kuran refers to Infidel women as “booty”, so muhammad is admired in the Kuran for taking some booty. Not rape by muslim standards.
http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ab1&q=kinana+of+khyber+verses&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
November 9th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
I request all my critics to read the Koran and Hadiths before unnecessarily frothing here.
November 13th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
I don’t thing this conversation would give a resolution about the issue. Instead it creates a hindu muslim conflict. People understand that we are Indians first and the next is Hindus and Muslims. Muslims should understand that Hindus always love their brother Muslims even in terms of relegious activities. I can prove it… Have u people ever heard of Sabari malai in Kerala to which Hindus will go by walk after 48 days Fasting. People who go their to worship the main god Iyappa has to first worship his best friend VAVAR, a muslim.
” stupids beleive it…..
so u got only stupids with u…so good luck for a stupid nation…. ”
Our nation is not a stupid people like you who continue your conversation on this is a stupid.
WELL SAID SARAFARAZ
” think what happens in pakistan its a islamic country but terrorist killing the innocent people everyday,you know these innocent peoples are not hindus or any other religion they are all muslims,in this we get that terrorism is against not to hindus nor christians, its
against whole religion.these terrorist people are not muslims but there names only match with islam. i again said that islam does not support terrorism,those who support they
were not muslims. so dont blame it on muslims.”
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in hindu mythologies only sex stories are there,that also between gods&goddesses????
if there are many gods will there be no conflicts??????
on power????
oh sorry,
no god is free,,,,,
everyone is busy with sex…..
longlive shiva-ganga immoral traffic
THIS SHOWS YOUR ATTITUDE AS A MUSLIM PROBABLE I CAN SAY U AS KAFIR, NOT AN INDIAN.
November 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
“I don’t thing this conversation would give a resolution about the issue. Instead it creates a hindu muslim conflict. People understand that we are Indians first and the next is Hindus and Muslims. Muslims should understand that Hindus always love their brother Muslims even in terms of relegious activities.”
Ashok, you had better understand that a Hindu-muslim conflict already exists and Hindus are not responsible for it. Hindus did not kill and chase the Kashmiri Pundits out of their homeland. Hindus did not ask for a seperate country in 1947, muslims did. Hindus did not invade India multiple times, Hindus were not responsible for genocides like the one in Hindukush.
Perhaps you would do better to read some history. Google “history of jihad” without the quotation marks. Also google “the religion of peace” to check out the peace of islam.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Yusuf Ali, Pickthal and Shakir are known as the authentic translator of Quran… See how the Koran directs the believers to tear the non-Muslims to shreds.
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YUSUFALI: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).
PICKTHAL: And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.
SHAKIR: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
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YUSUFALI: Those who reject faith and deny our signs will be companions of Hell-fire.
PICKTHAL: And they who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, such are rightful owners of hell.
SHAKIR: And (as for) those who disbelieve and reject our communications, these are the companions of the name.009.029YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
PICKTHAL: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
SHAKIR: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.005.033
(THE PUNISHMENT)
YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;
PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.
014.013
YUSUFALI: And the Unbelievers said to their messengers: “Be sure we shall drive you out of our land, or ye shall return to our religion.” But their Lord inspired (this Message) to them: “Verily We shall cause the wrong-doers to perish!
PICKTHAL: And those who disbelieved said unto their messengers: Verily we will drive you out from our land, unless ye return to our religion. Then their Lord inspired them, (saying):Verily we shall destroy the wrong-doers,
SHAKIR: And those who disbelieved said to their messengers: We will most certainly drive you forth from our land, or else you shall come back into our religion. So their Lord revealed to them: Most certainly We will destroy the unjust.
014.014
YUSUFALI: “And verily We shall cause you to abide in the land, and succeed them. This for such as fear the Time when they shall stand before My tribunal,- such as fear the punishment denounced.”
PICKTHAL: And verily We shall make you to dwell in the land after them. This is for him who feareth My Majesty and feareth My threats.
SHAKIR: And most certainly We will settle you in the land after them; this is for him who fears standing in My presence and who fears My threat.
014.015
YUSUFALI: But they sought victory and decision (there and then), and frustration was the lot of every powerful obstinate transgressor.
PICKTHAL: And they sought help (from their Lord) and every froward potentate was bought to naught;
SHAKIR: And they asked for judgment and every insolent opposer was disappointed:
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YUSUFALI: In front of such a one is Hell, and he is given, for drink, boiling fetid water.
PICKTHAL: Hell is before him, and he is made to drink a festering water,
SHAKIR: Hell is before him and he shall be given to drink of festering water:
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YUSUFALI: In gulps will he sip it, but never will he be near swallowing it down his throat: death will come to him from every quarter, yet will he not die: and in front of him will be a chastisement unrelenting.
PICKTHAL: Which he sippeth but can hardly swallow, and death cometh unto him from every side while yet he cannot die, and before him is a harsh doom.
SHAKIR: He will drink it little by little and will not be able to swallow it agreeably, and death will come to him from every quarter, but he shall not die; and there shall be vehement chastisement before him.
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YUSUFALI: These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water.
PICKTHAL: These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads,
SHAKIR: These are two adversaries who dispute about their Lord; then (as to) those who disbelieve, for them are cut out garments of fire, boiling water shall be poured over their heads.
022.020
YUSUFALI: With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins.
PICKTHAL: Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted;
SHAKIR: With it shall be melted what is in their bellies and (their) skins as well.
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YUSUFALI: In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them.
PICKTHAL: And for them are hooked rods of iron.
SHAKIR: And for them are whips of iron.
022.022
YUSUFALI: Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), “Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!”
PICKTHAL: Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning.
SHAKIR: Whenever they will desire to go forth from it, from grief, they shall be turned back into it, and taste the chastisement of burning.
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YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, And beat them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
PICKTHAL: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
(9/5) Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Terror verses in Koran are dime a dozen. Any answers from so-called moderate Muslims.
November 25th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Muslims are misled though they are children of God.
plz read the following and look some where you can have other ideas.
http://www.kingmessiahproject.com/is_muhammad_false_prophet.html
November 25th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Hi Kamat, Direct these deluded Muslims to www.faithfreedom.org and http://www.islam-watch.org/ .
December 21st, 2009 at 12:38 pm
muslims ban vade mataram and look who was with them in that meeting to vouch for them?. IT was none other than BABA RAM DEV himself. If the people who banned vandemataram are anti-indians what shopuld you call the person who assisted them..traitor?
December 21st, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Troll alert !
March 10th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
@ Jaheer Ismail,
What r your views on Mohammedan soldiers raping every women in sight?
March 10th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Dont blame other religion, first thing of ours.
You people (sanyasi) made like this, as sundar rightly first clean your shit, then talk about others.
You people are the reason why hinduism gone done, preaching something and doing all nonsense things.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
@ So-called Devi,