SUPPORT ISRAEL IN CAMPAIGN AGAINST ISLAMIC TERRORISM AND MEDIA LIARS
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All the Internet Hindus and all those who are concerned about preserving civilization,
Israel is on the receiving end of Islamic terror. When it strikes back, the media gives it a bad press projecting it as “an unilateral aggressor and violator of human rights”.
In a way, they too are facing a problem like us Hindus. When we react to Islamic terrorism, we are called Hindu terrorists.
As dharmic warriors, it is our privilege to support all those who are fighting injustice.
Israel has been doing so in a very effective manner — the media and Islamic onslaught notwithstanding.
Let us support Israel by subscribing to http://honestreporting.com/
Let us defeat the ulterior motives of the media liars.
Let us join hands and support all those who are victims of Islamic terrorism. Remember, Islamic terrorism is a global phenomenon.
The very same Islamic terrorists who burnt to death 58 Hindu devotees in Godhra are also having the same ideology as Hamas — who are harrassing the Israeli forces.
Israel deserves its status as a nation just as we Hindus deserve to be called a nation.
So cock a snook at the media liars by subscribing to http://www.honestreporting.com
Also read this article to understand the dynamics of media mischief.
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/reports/The_Photo_that_Started_it_All.asp
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June 8th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Also sir one last point I missed,next time u enter in to such a discussion with anybody,and raise points such as Casteism in Islam,Karbala war due to Zam-Zam well,Arab Imams throughout the world,etc.please ensure that u cite palatable rferences and proofs,otherwise serious questions can be raised on the credibility of what u say.
Good Bye,Best Of LUCK
June 8th, 2010 at 7:39 am
@MSFS
When the purpose of a dialogue differ, that is one person wants to know the truth and the other wants to defend a belief, only the mute observers get benefited.
Casteism in any religion and in any society is ugly. In India it is more notoriously ugly. In other places and religions it wears the garb of holiness or veil itself in different names as tribe, clan, family, race, etc.
But, only a Hindu can detach himself from his belief system and accept that casteism is bad and is being practiced in the society. So, as a Hindu, I accept the presence and strength of the venomous practice, could rebel against it, and also know the historical background objectively.
While I accept its existence in Hindu religion and also agree that it is protected by Meccaulay Hindus, I also know that the current form casteism is due to the Islamic and Christian rulers. Both are true. But, sadly, only a Hindu could see and accept that good things and bad things exist in his and other’s religion.
And, I owe an apology to you. You expect me to say only references palatable to you. You said:
“please ensure that u cite palatable rferences and proofs,otherwise serious questions can be raised on the credibility of what u say.”
I cannot do that. The history will not be palatable to Islam, Christian, and Communists. And, I am not frightened about receiving serious questions. Questioning and exploring for the truth is the essence of Hinduism.
And so far I have answered all the questions; and, I know that you have now known an idea different from what you are taught so far.
And ideas are powerful. They make people Hindu.
June 9th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Video on why everyone needs to support Israel in its fight against Islamic terrorism:
http://ronmossad.blogspot.com/2010/06/kinks-living-on-thin-line-israel-and.html
If they didn’t have Israel to attack all the time, what then…?
June 12th, 2010 at 5:51 am
“Thomas, if you follow the polls in Israel for the last 30 or 40 years, you clearly find a vulgar racism that includes a third of the population who openly declare themselves to be racist. This racism is of the nature of “I hate Arabs” and “I wish Arabs would be dead”. If you also follow the judicial system in Israel you will see there is discrimination against Palestinians, and if you further consider the 1967 occupied territories you will find there are already two judicial systems in operation that represent two different approaches to human life: one for Palestinian life and the other for Jewish life. Additionally there are two different approaches to property and to land. Palestinian property is not recognised as private property because it can be confiscated.”
“Apartheid is a crime against humanity. Israel has deprived millions of Palestinians of their liberty and property. It has perpetuated a system of gross racial discrimination and inequality. It has systematically incarcerated and tortured thousands of Palestinians, contrary to the rules of international law. It has, in particular, waged a war against a civilian population, in particular children” – Nelson Mandela
http://www.progressiveaustin.org/mandelap.htm
“The refugees who surround Palestine in their hundreds of thousands were described recently by the Washington journalist I.F. Stone as “the moral millstone around the neck of world Jewry.” Many of the refugees are now well into the third decade of their precarious existence in temporary settlements. The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign Power to another people for the creation of a new State. The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their number have increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty? It is abundantly clear that the refugees have every right to the homeland from which they were driven, and the denial of this right is at the heart of the continuing conflict. No people anywhere in the world would accept being expelled en masse from their own country; how can anyone require the people of Palestine to accept a punishment which nobody else would tolerate? A permanent just settlement of the refugees in their homeland is an essential ingredient of any genuine settlement in the Middle East.
We are frequently told that we must sympathize with Israel because of the suffering of the Jews in Europe at the hands of the Nazis. I see in this suggestion no reason to perpetuate any suffering. What Israel is doing today cannot be condoned, and to invoke the horrors of the past to justify those of the present is gross hypocrisy. Not only does Israel condemn a vast number. of refugees to misery; not only are many Arabs under occupation condemned to military rule; but also Israel condemns the Arab nations only recently emerging from colonial status, to continued impoverishment as military demands take precedence over national development.” – Bertrand Russel
http://www.connexions.org/CxLibrary/Docs/CX5576-RussellMidEast.htm
June 12th, 2010 at 6:21 am
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It is impossible not to be reminded of the classic Jewish joke about the Jewish mother in Russia taking leave of her son, who has been called up to serve the Czar in the war against Turkey. “Don’t overexert yourself’” she implores him, “Kill a Turk and rest. Kill another Turk and rest again…”
“But mother,” the son interrupts, “What if the Turk kills me?”
“You?” exclaims the mother, “But why? What have you done to him?”
To any normal person, this may sound crazy. Heavily armed soldiers of an elite commando unit board a ship on the high seas in the middle of the night, from the sea and from the air – and they are the victims?” – Uri Avnery
http://www.counterpunch.com/avnery06072010.html
June 12th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
@najeeb
najeeb i agree about racism of jews.They also are like aryan brahmin hindus.
only way to be jew is to be born a jew just like only way to be brahmin is to be born a brahmin.
At least Islam allows people to convert to islam.there is accepting of all as equal once you are muslim.
But jews,like brahmins,not like that,they are discriminating against you, because you are not them,and they are not allow you to become one of them to convert to them.
what do they expect other people to do should they die?
June 12th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
Aryan Invasion theory is outdated. It is genetically flawed. It is a colonial legacy repeated by the ignorant left/muzzi/christist combine.
June 12th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Islam forces people to convert. That’s the real problem for world peace.
June 14th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
they at least give solution means conversion
What is solution you brahmins or jews giving?
you are not having any universal feelings of brotherhood and sharing your ideas or thoughts for all mankind.
You only selfish and want to keep good things to your self
June 15th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Islam/Commie and Christianity is the problem. The problem of convert or kill. The solution is Hinduism.
Sarve Jana Sukhino Bhavanthu
(May all be in peace)
Vasudaiva Kutumbukam
(The whole world is one family)
Krunvantho Vishwamam Aryam
(Ennoble the whole world)
This is real brahminism. This is the real solution to the problem posed by Islamic/Muzzi/Commie terrorism.
June 15th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
can I convert to brahmin?
there is some course in vedas etc I should do?
I mean officially how one can convert to brahmin?
I can tell you there is procedure for become muslim and also christian but not for brahmin or for jew.You can only be born not convert
June 15th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Dalit voice
There is no need to convert to brahmin. All four varnas denote various parts of God, as per Vedas. Dalits are in no way inferior, nor are any other varnas superior in any aspect.
June 15th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Dear Dalit Voice,
you have said:
“I can tell you there is procedure for become muslim and also christian but not for brahmin or for jew.You can only be born not convert”
That is incorrect.
Despite the popular Maccaulay propaganda, the Indian caste system is flexible and not rigid.
A caste once considered a Sudra or panchama can become a brahmin, kshatriya, or vaishya. For example, Namboodhiris of Kerala were fishermen once. We can find that a caste has moved across all the varnas, new castes are born, old castes die in the Indian caste system. It only requires some research.
If you start calling you and your caste as a Brahmin caste, there is nobody on this earth can officially disprove that or oppose that, except, of course the Maccaulay brahmins who are against allowing other caste members to perform the traditional religious works.
These Maccaualay Hindus are the prime enemies of Hinduism. But, there are others who go by Sanathana dharma and its literature, which never decreed a varna by birth.
June 18th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
@ ananda ganesh
yes i also hear about the nambhoodris, but still I dont know what way they did this conversion,what pricedure they did this , I also know it take lot of time and generation to happen.
Its okay if it is not much clear but tell me about any links in internet about this subject.
If this be possible to do then very good for dalit peples they can all convert to brahmins and get rid of the cursing of being dalits.
Even if it be difficult process also tell me because I dont think it be more difficult than being dalit.
Also this much better than if we becoming muslim,christianism or buddhism,lot many of us like to be hinduism so this way very good
June 18th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
@ Dalit Voice
Dear sir,
There is no such external procedure or ritual to change a caste or varna, except you start identifying your caste or varna. If you want to change them, feel free to start call your caste or varna of your desire instead of the old one.
Liberation of Dalits is in their hands. And no other caste or varna can give it to them. It is in the Dalits’ hands and is available here and now. All the powers are within them.
Well, even if we assume that there is a procedure to change a caste or varna, and assume that a dalit changes his caste or varna, the question still remains same:
Will the creation of dalits stop ?
No. As long as Hindutva is not followed, and as long as the Maccaulay hindus rule the roost it can never happen.
June 19th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
@ananda ganesh
yes sir,
I completely agree for the point that “as long as the Maccaulay hindus rule the roost it can never happen”
but other hindus also should raise their voices against all this practices.
I can understand why they are all doing like this it not be religion reason it is economic reason:
they want free supply of servant and scavengers.
other countries and cultures also having such servants and cleaners, but they not treating them with this much cruelty torture and oppression
June 19th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
@Ananda Ganesh Sir
“Liberation of Dalits is in their hands. And no other caste or varna can give it to them. It is in the Dalits’ hands and is available here and now. All the powers are within them.”
how this possible?
If you are tell like this for other caste like kshatriyas castes and vaishyas castes they can have power to change to brahmin,in the way you suggesting.
they having all political, economic and manpower but maybe not intellligence /knowledge power that is for brahmins special.
But that why dalits never can do.
they are at mercy of landlords for just to stay alive, they must work also and then beg also for just their food.
sometimes they are have to starve if not much crop is growing.
they are all the people who die first in famine drought.
how they can go against this peples
They are need help very badly desperately.
June 19th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
@ Dalit Voice
Yes. What you say is true.
Swami Vivekananda, RSS leaders, and Ambedkar have already given the solution.
It is education and empowerment.
These the others should do to the dalits.
June 22nd, 2010 at 11:34 am
@Ananda Ganesh
“These the others should do to the dalits.”
”the others” should including people not only like you but also like deepak kamat no?
yes I am understanding there is dificult in doing this,uppercaste people not liking this and leaving for your listening.But even if not strongly at least weakly such people can protest against such evil bad things.
At least just like time pass not strongly preaching.
At least some starting.
June 25th, 2010 at 9:31 am
@ Dalit Voice,
You will be unemployed very soon.
Caste discrimination is going away in this age of globalisation.
The problem of caste discrimination is an ameoba while compared to islamic terrorism and christian manipulation.
June 25th, 2010 at 10:08 am
@ Deepak Kamat
Deepak,
I have faith in your firmness in hindutva, which is against casteism.
Certainly the privatization, which does not care about the caste, but focuses only on performance gives a hope not only to dalits but to other castes as well. But, I beg to differ that globalization will wipe away the problems of dalits. First of all, globalization is allowed only in a few industries and more than 80% of Indian business and society is unaffected by it.
And the continuing colonial political structure ensures that casteism is strengthened. Many political parties demand reservation in private sector too. That is sad.
If the well-fare of humanity is treated as passengers, then Hinduism is the ship that keep it afloat and safe from the abrahamic sharks. While abrahamism is the external danger, casteism is the biggest whole in the ship.
Internal security and strength is very very important and requires more attention than external threats.
June 25th, 2010 at 11:31 am
@ Ananda Ganesha,
June 25th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
@ Deepak Kamat
You said:
It was the caste feeling which protected us against Christianity, colonial and Islamic invasions.
Yes. But, it is history now and has ceased to be useful. It is a dead weight and it needs to be buried.
As long as it is above the ground, it is just a stinking shit; buried, it is a manure.
Should not we come to the present before moving to future?
June 25th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
@ Ananda Ganesh,
As I said earlier, the next generation globalisation kids are not interested in caste discrimination. At the same time, they are interested in preseving their culture.
I am a Gaud Saraswat Brahmin… I am not interested in caste discrimination…. however, I still believe in protecting my GSB heritage whether it is language, food habit, culture or lifestyle.
I see caste not as a race but as an extension of the family. We share the same food habit, language, gods and backgrounds. That’s all to it.
June 25th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
As they said birds of the same feather flock together. Caste today is not a big problem. It is only magnified by the media.
At the same time, too much of anything is too bad. I am not sold on my caste. When it comes to the greater issue, I am a Hindu. When it comes to still greater issue, I am a citizen of planet earth. Still greater issue.. I am a sentient being.
June 25th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Shalom from Moshe,I am a Rabbi living in Negev,ISRAEL.I visited India a number of times and found that you guys are very badly divided people.Leave alone Christians/Moslems.
I am talking about Hindus.You cannot fight Islamic Terror properly as we do.
Please note Mr.Kamat,USA is the main supporter of ISRAEL in its war against terrorism and not Hindus or India.You treat your own Hindus very badly esp. the Lower Caste Hindus and you are giving lectures here on Hindutva as solution.
We have no problems with Christians in ISRAEL,because conversions are prohibited.Once your Government implements them you will not have any problems on that Front.I want to ask you a sincere question- Who will bell the Cat?
In future Jews-Christians will certainly fight Islam.It is happening already.You guys have no option but to join our Geo-politico alliance.
Your Government totally flopped in conducting an efficient raid using commandos on 26/11 attacks in MUMBAI.
You guys(Indians) only need our hi-tech Weapons and ditch us once you finish your work.Your Government whether BJP or Congress never supports us at UN,you people are like Cat on the Wall.
Hardly you can fight or wage a perfect war and protect your Kashmiri Pandits/Hindus from POK based Terror Groups.
Why this big talk show?
Verbal support is also not strong from Hindus or Hindu led Governments in favour of ISRAEL.Your idiotic Ministers came to Turkey and slammed ISRAELI efforts to stop Flotilla.
You guys just talk talk and talk. DO nothing to counter a smaller country like Pakistan.
Thank Elohim Our government goes all out of the way to protect our Citizens.
Why Mr.Kamat is shredding Crocodile tears for our small Jewish Nation of ISRAEL?
I do not understand.
We plan and the Hashem Laughs!!!! Our God of Israel who liberated us shall come forth to liberate us AGAIN.
We have Cutting edge technology to teach mullahs in Iran and elsewhere a proper lesson.
Sincererly,
Rabbi Moshe Arens
BEERSHEVA
NEGEV,ISRAEL.
Deepak Kamat replies: Rabbi Moshe Arens, (if you are for real) You are horribly misinformed. Check your history and get back to me. Hindutva has been maligned just as Zionism has been maligned by the left media. Get real. Regarding fighting Islamic terror, we have been doing so effectively. Remember Gujarat. Remember, it was India which checked islamic invasion and even sheltered the Jews during its difficult times. Yes, the Indian bureaucracy and policy makers have a left stance which needs to be wiped out. I am not shedding crocodile tears for anyone. We will fight injustice with you, without you and despite you.
June 26th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Mr. Kamat,
Please note that, just because we are fighting against muslims does not mean that we are with Fasist elements. Your ideology seems to be borrowed from Nazi Hitler and any cost we dont like it. We do not like your ideology… If you wanna fight with Islamic terrorist then stop talking and get in to actions. That is the big problem with hindus. They only deliver big speeches but in real nothing but cowards. Do you know If not William J. Clinton pressed hard with Gen. Musharaf to withdraw army from Indian border a decade ago,your country would have in stone age. Understands facts….
Regards
Jacob Himashe
Tel-aviv
Deepak Kamat replies: If it was so easy, Hinduism would have been wiped out thousand year ago. it is still surviving. Is it not? It is not due to islamic/Christian mercy. It is because of the intrinsic strength of Hinduism. Regarding Hindu fascism and Nazi connection, it is pure media propaganda. Please understand facts.
June 27th, 2010 at 12:00 am
@deepak kamat
“You will be unemployed very soon”
you have any solutions for this or you are happy.?
why it makes you so happy to see dalits suffer?
muslims you are angry ok but what did dalits do for you
@Moshe Arens
“You treat your own Hindus very badly esp. the Lower Caste Hindus and you are giving lectures here on Hindutva as solution”
see Rabbi sir deepak happy at dalit unemployment you are 100% correct
Deepak Kamat replies: The word Dalit itself is a misnomer. Pseudo Dalit leaders will be unemployed very soon… because caste discrimination does not exist in this age of globalisation. Pseudo Dalit leaders are stuck in 19th century.
June 27th, 2010 at 11:35 am
@ Deepak Kamat
You have said:
“I am a Gaud Saraswat Brahmin… I am not interested in caste discrimination…. however, I still believe in protecting my GSB heritage whether it is language, food habit, culture or lifestyle.”
My response:
I completely agree with this idea, and also appreciate.
The language, food habit, culture, or lifestyle are “knowledge-base” that empower us. And we must respect those who gave us those knowledge and skills.
The best way to appreciate them is to protect them and give them to others. This is what you are doing.
Again, please accept my appreciations.
June 27th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
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try to understand the fact, there are terrorists in every community that does not mean their religion is all about terrorism, few days ago some rss memebers were also caught in makka masjid blast, ram sena chief caught taking money for spreading riots, churches were demolished in orissa by bajrang dal. but we don’t call them hindu extremists. the naxalites are also hindus but we never call them hindu extremists. every country has terrorism problem. they kill in the name if islam, if they kill in the name of islam then why muslims are killed in afghanistan,pakistan,sudan etc etc, their aim is to spread terrorism but they just need some reason. if we quarrel among ourself then we cannot eradicate this problem the only solution is to unite
June 27th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
@ Riaz
This is the usual taqia. those people arrested by police with the claim that they put bombs in islamic places have one thing very different from those muslims who put bombs in schools and maternity wards of the hospitals.
these hindus who are arrested by the police do not claim that their religion asked them to put bombs and kill muslims. But, sadly islam does that.
Hindu scriptures do not say kill a non-hindu. but islam says so.
Don’t you think that this differentiates a terrorist (aka muslim) from other violent idiots ?
June 28th, 2010 at 9:51 am
@anand don’t speak without knowledge, islam does not says to kill innocents, always muslims are arrested a muslim was arrested in malegaon masjid blast but who did it. and your defination of muslims tells how much you hate muslims. cow dung has effected your mind
June 28th, 2010 at 9:54 am
@anand don’t speak without knowledge, islam does not says to kill innocents, always muslims are arrested a muslim was arrested in malegaon masjid blast but who did it. and your defination of muslims tells how much you hate muslims.
are rss,bajrang dal,vhp banned even after killing thousands of innocent, don’t be a hypocrite
if muslims were terrorists then hinduism would have finished 800 years ago. muslims ruled more than 800 years and only muslims were the most powerful kings in indian history they could have converted all of you if they can. but sufi saints converted us to islam. don’t be deluded brother. and don’t speak the hearsay get your own knowledge about it
June 28th, 2010 at 9:57 am
@anand don’t speak without knowledge, islam does not says to kill innocents, always muslims are arrested a muslim was arrested in malegaon masjid blast but who did it. and your defination of muslims tells how much you hate muslims.
are rss,bajrang dal,vhp banned even after killing thousands of innocent, don’t be a hypocrite
if muslims were terrorists then hinduism would have finished 800 years ago. muslims ruled more than 800 years and only muslims were the most powerful kings in indian history they could have converted all of you if they can. but sufi saints converted us to islam. don’t be deluded brother. and don’t speak the hearsay get your own knowledge about it
AND DO YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF TAQIYA. YOU CALL IT DEPCETION BECAUSE YOUR LEADERS HAVE TAUGHT YOU THAT, THE MEANING OF TAQIYA IS TO CONCEAL ONE’S FAITH WHEN YOU ARE OPPRESSED OR HAVE THE CHANCES OF BEING KILLED, AND TAQIYA IS USED TO STOP THE WAR BETWEEN TWO NATIONS AND STOP THE FIGHT BETWEEN 2 PEOPLE, its only the shia theology other sects don’t use it. taqiya makes peace and you are calling it deception and boast for peace
there is no cure of hatred you have
June 28th, 2010 at 10:15 am
@ Riaz,
Read this book and educate yourself.http://www.bharatvani.org/books/tcqp/
The Koran is a terror manual — plain and simple.
Should I supply you the terror verses?
June 28th, 2010 at 10:16 am
The entire Koran is a manual on violent jehad
http://www.bharatvani.org/books/tcqp/chi3.htm
June 28th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Regarding Taqia, it is something which Mohammed resorted to when he was driven out of medina.
However, he regrouped and butchered the pagans of Medina. it is no secret that Islam spread with sword in one hand and Koran in other.
No amount of taqia can negate this simple fact.
June 28th, 2010 at 11:45 am
http://www.qtafsir.com/ to know about your so called terror verses
June 28th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
@riaz why are you wasting your time. if a mental disorder patient tells you that he is a king and you are a idiot will you argue with him. then why are you arguing with these bastards. if you raise hand 100 times to be friend with them they will cut your hands but if you fuck them hard like christians do then they ll not shake hands with you they will start licking your ass. their main aim is to wipe out all muslims from india. and have you ever seen a hindu speaking all those things on your face. definetely not because they are cowards, internet is a thing in which we can share our thoughts thats what they do but they will never tell you on your face. they think whatever they do is right and whatever we do is wrong, lol. when a hindu attacks muslims they call it self defense but when a muslim is oppressed and forced to kill people they call it islamic terrorism, there are more numbers of hindu extremeists than number of self proclaimed jihadis. if the hindus had much knowlede then they would have never pointed fingers on us. many fatwas are issued against self proclaimed mujahideens. and stop wasting your time, hindus here are rss supporters and they are unemployed when they need job they goto gulf to clean toilet and all like dhirubhai ambani.
June 28th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
now just wait and see how they will misuse my comment and they will just forget what they have commented here. just scroll up and see their so called peaceful comments
and just look at deepak’s stupidity, deepak if you wanna learn about india will you goto pakistan or china or autralia to know about india. deepak you should read puranas the history of your gods
deepak read this book and educate yourself you illiterate bigot
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=dnfZ_MBErlQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+erotic+ascetic&source=bl&ots=LaHwP7wp6g&sig=D2pSC9OsPwQlSz9u3HrdsJOFBHk&hl=en&ei=rTooTPaKDYOSnAfBiqipAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAg
i hope this book is enough for you if you want more books then don’t feel hesitated i will provide you some more books
June 28th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
im sure you would be bored by reading that book so read this book when u r bored and read that book again http://www.scribd.com/doc/13854871/Oh-You-Hindu-Wake-Up-1
June 28th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
lol deepak, know the meaning of jihad before making fun of it because jihad is prescribed in your own scriptures http://www.islamandhinduism.com/ih/Concept%20of%20Jihad.html
June 28th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
^^^
Some Muslim might have written that bullshit.
Bhagwat Gita does not say, “Convert or kill”. It says fight for justice unlike Koran where all those who do not subscribe to Shariat should be drawn and quartered.
June 28th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
This is very interesting. Yusuf Ali, Pickthal and Shakir are known as the authentic translator of Quran… See how the Koran directs the believers to tear the non-Muslims to shreds.003.085YUSUFALI: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).PICKTHAL: And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.SHAKIR: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.005.010YUSUFALI: Those who reject faith and deny our signs will be companions of Hell-fire.PICKTHAL: And they who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, such are rightful owners of hell.SHAKIR: And (as for) those who disbelieve and reject our communications, these are the companions of the name.009.029YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.PICKTHAL: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.SHAKIR: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.005.033(THE PUNISHMENT)YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.014.013YUSUFALI: And the Unbelievers said to their messengers: “Be sure we shall drive you out of our land, or ye shall return to our religion.” But their Lord inspired (this Message) to them: “Verily We shall cause the wrong-doers to perish!PICKTHAL: And those who disbelieved said unto their messengers: Verily we will drive you out from our land, unless ye return to our religion. Then their Lord inspired them, (saying):Verily we shall destroy the wrong-doers,SHAKIR: And those who disbelieved said to their messengers: We will most certainly drive you forth from our land, or else you shall come back into our religion. So their Lord revealed to them: Most certainly We will destroy the unjust.014.014YUSUFALI: “And verily We shall cause you to abide in the land, and succeed them. This for such as fear the Time when they shall stand before My tribunal,- such as fear the punishment denounced.”PICKTHAL: And verily We shall make you to dwell in the land after them. This is for him who feareth My Majesty and feareth My threats.SHAKIR: And most certainly We will settle you in the land after them; this is for him who fears standing in My presence and who fears My threat.014.015YUSUFALI: But they sought victory and decision (there and then), and frustration was the lot of every powerful obstinate transgressor.PICKTHAL: And they sought help (from their Lord) and every froward potentate was bought to naught;SHAKIR: And they asked for judgment and every insolent opposer was disappointed:014.016YUSUFALI: In front of such a one is Hell, and he is given, for drink, boiling fetid water.PICKTHAL: Hell is before him, and he is made to drink a festering water,SHAKIR: Hell is before him and he shall be given to drink of festering water:014.017YUSUFALI: In gulps will he sip it, but never will he be near swallowing it down his throat: death will come to him from every quarter, yet will he not die: and in front of him will be a chastisement unrelenting.PICKTHAL: Which he sippeth but can hardly swallow, and death cometh unto him from every side while yet he cannot die, and before him is a harsh doom.SHAKIR: He will drink it little by little and will not be able to swallow it agreeably, and death will come to him from every quarter, but he shall not die; and there shall be vehement chastisement before him.022.019YUSUFALI: These two antagonists dispute with each other about their Lord: But those who deny (their Lord),- for them will be cut out a garment of Fire: over their heads will be poured out boiling water.PICKTHAL: These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads,SHAKIR: These are two adversaries who dispute about their Lord; then (as to) those who disbelieve, for them are cut out garments of fire, boiling water shall be poured over their heads.022.020YUSUFALI: With it will be scalded what is within their bodies, as well as (their) skins.PICKTHAL: Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted;SHAKIR: With it shall be melted what is in their bellies and (their) skins as well.2.021YUSUFALI: In addition there will be maces of iron (to punish) them.PICKTHAL: And for them are hooked rods of iron.SHAKIR: And for them are whips of iron.022.022YUSUFALI: Every time they wish to get away therefrom, from anguish, they will be forced back therein, and (it will be said), “Taste ye the Penalty of Burning!”PICKTHAL: Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning.SHAKIR: Whenever they will desire to go forth from it, from grief, they shall be turned back into it, and taste the chastisement of burning.004.034YUSUFALI: Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, And beat them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).PICKTHAL: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.SHAKIR: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.(9/5) Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
June 28th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Books by Wendy Doniger are invariably anti-Hindus. It will just include cooked up stories.
Anyway, you need not believe in Gods or any other scriptures to be a Hindu. Hinduism is freedom of faith.
However, apostacy in Islam is rewarded with death — terror ideology indeed.
June 28th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
yeah i know deepak, i already told you ”you think, whatever you do is right and what we do is wrong” gita does say that goto sacred-texts.com to read it. and good copy paste deepak. keep on crying with your baseless faith.
so you think islam says to convert or kill, lol thats why i also gave you the link of quran explanation and translation. you bigot is a disgrace to humanity, keep on insulting islam, that does not change the truth. your twisted translations can fool innocent hindus but not us. you deluded idiot. better deceive bigots like you
June 29th, 2010 at 8:11 am
^^
Nice Taqia. Thanks but no thanks. Better convince those who are in Al Qaeda..
June 29th, 2010 at 8:15 am
@ All,
I am well aware of Taqia Masters. What they say is that these terror verses are applicable only in war situations.. what they do not know is that Mohammed backstabbed the Pagans of Medina when he had effected a peace treaty. The islamic policy is: Compromise in trouble, hack in position of strength. I have read both Koran and Hadiths. I don’t have any doubts. To those who have doubts, read it.
Now even if the Islamic peaceniks say that Islam is a religon of peace and broterhood, those in Al Qaeda are not convinced. They will strike.. So we will have to be prepared for more terorist strikes.. So end these terrorists. Spike them. These Islamic peaceniks are also a part of the grand Islamic war strategy.. so that we are lulled into sleep by those peace lines.
July 11th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
@deepak
you are right about hinduism nowhere it practice hate directly but only you brahmins ( maccaully brahmins)are making it grow,you will let poor peples starve with no food but you wil pour milk ,ghee, honey etc in name of abhisheka.you will practice untouchability with not just dallits but even with your own brahmin peple also in name of purity and also with other caste peple lower to your caste.
at least muslims cannot help doing things because their religion is telling to do but why you are doing like this?
Only for doing monopolisation.
you are all worst kind,not doing any useful work for society,just chanting some mantras which if you also understand is very much doubt.
while dalits working so hard,sweating blood doing so much work in fields growing food that you eat,without doing any useful work,they are starving.
and look at you peple so fat fat,eating so much free food getting from peples donations charity.